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Post by doggboy10 on Feb 21, 2011 16:14:53 GMT -5
How boring a Noel solo album is going to be, don't get me wrong I love Noel, he's a genius but a whole album of his songs would bore me to tears...Of the last 3 Oasis albums Noel sung songs were the poorest in my opinion(the importance of being idle aside), Get off your high horse and Falling down off DOYS are awful. Noel can't sing rockers so were going to be stuck with middle of the road Feeder like tracks  We heard his so called masterpiece "Stop the clocks" (albeit unfinished) and was not impressed at all. I think Noel needs Liam more than he gives credit for, Is it no coincidence that Oasis' best album (in most peoples views) contains no Noel lead vocal?. I hope i'm completely wrong and look forward in listening to what he has come up with, but the pressure is on him big time as he is expected to deliver a classic by the casual fan, time will tell i suppose? and that could be a very long time away  |
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Post by gdforever on Feb 21, 2011 16:21:51 GMT -5
2 issues with this thread 1) What lazy thinking. There are tons of great songs and albums that don't have Liam Gallagher as a lead singer. Noel is a great singer with more range and variety than Liam...even if it doesn't deliver a straight-on rock song as well as Liam. You are on some sort of LG sugar high after this album. 2) Why are you trying to discuss your thoughts on Noel in the Beady Eye section? 3) There is already a thread about this. live4ever.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=news&action=display&thread=64948 |
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Post by juancho1995 on Feb 21, 2011 16:24:19 GMT -5
Let's wait and see...
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Post by gdforever on Feb 21, 2011 16:31:28 GMT -5
Oh...and
4) This album has also made me realise it's no coincidence that most peoples favorite 2 Oasis albums contain no non-Noel-written tunes.
5) Noel has written 90% of Oasis hits. He was able to write a pop song up to the end. And any non-commerciality on DOYS was purposefully done. He didn't "lose it", he went in a new direction.
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Post by doggboy10 on Feb 21, 2011 16:42:54 GMT -5
2 issues with this thread 1) What lazy thinking. There are tons of great songs and albums that don't have Liam Gallagher as a lead singer. Noel is a great singer with more range and variety than Liam...even if it doesn't deliver a straight-on rock song as well as Liam. You are on some sort of LG sugar high after this album. 2) Why are you trying to discuss your thoughts on Noel in the Beady Eye section? 3) There is already a thread about this. live4ever.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=news&action=display&thread=64948First off I believe that is 3 issues not 2?, and it's not lazy thinking at all, it's my opinion whether you like it or not......and where are these tonnes of Oasis albums that don't have Liam as lead singer  ,. No doubt Noel is a better vocalist with a better range but a better singer he is not, Liam is/was the voice of Oasis no doubt about it, I'm not on no Liam sugar rush because of this album, well to be fair you could say I am because I prefer Liam as a singer...but this sounds daft as Noel isn't in beady eye...Seems since the Oasis split it's split the fans to, there seems to be no middle ground when the brothers Gallagher are involved (shame really) As I said i look forward to a Noel album as it will be better than 99% of today's modern music but if his recent output is to go by It is not to my taste. Is this ok to post here by the way? |
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Post by Silence Dogood on Feb 21, 2011 16:46:20 GMT -5
no one can dispute that Noel is a great songwriter, bettter than the other 3 yes but ...
the OP is talking about having an entire album with only him on vocals.
i get what he's talking about. The rockers aren't the same with Noel's voice.
I still think it'll be a good album, a masterpiece? i don't know. I don't expect that to be honest but i may be surprised.
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Post by supersonic8587 on Feb 21, 2011 16:55:21 GMT -5
no one can dispute that Noel is a great songwriter, bettter than the other 3 yes but ... the OP is talking about having an entire album with only him on vocals. i get what he's talking about. The rockers aren't the same with Noel's voice. I still think it'll be a good album, a masterpiece? i don't know. I don't expect that to be honest but i may be surprised. Yeah I agree with the OP in that an album full of Noel sung songs may be a bit dull. I really hope he proves me wrong, but Noel is not the best at singing some types of songs that have a lot of energy. His voice just doesn't seem to have that energy in it anymore, or at least he hasn't shown it. Just listen to the Lyla demo. It's not half the song the final version is and the only major difference is Liam's voice. |
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Post by doggboy10 on Feb 21, 2011 17:01:06 GMT -5
no one can dispute that Noel is a great songwriter, bettter than the other 3 yes but ... the OP is talking about having an entire album with only him on vocals. i get what he's talking about. The rockers aren't the same with Noel's voice. I still think it'll be a good album, a masterpiece? i don't know. I don't expect that to be honest but i may be surprised. Exactly my friend, I fell in love with Oasis off of Definitely Maybe which had Liam on every track and had that raw immature if you will sound to it and was the better for it then Noel's need for vocal lead input got stronger with every album and at times worked very well: DLBIA, Sunday morning call but in the most part, the Noel sung songs on albums were the weakest (B'sides different matter most should've been on albums, another noel weakness is compiling an album) Just like Definitely Maybe did in the past, This beady eye album has given me a similar feeling...one I haven't had musically in a long-time, it's actually got me excited about music again and not living through nostalgia (good album title there). Hey at the end of the day we get 2 Oasis related albums which is always good, but on listening to this album It made me feel this way so i posted it, whether you agree or disagree....opinion is all it is and that is what makes the world turn  |
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Post by doggboy10 on Feb 21, 2011 17:05:32 GMT -5
no one can dispute that Noel is a great songwriter, bettter than the other 3 yes but ... the OP is talking about having an entire album with only him on vocals. i get what he's talking about. The rockers aren't the same with Noel's voice. I still think it'll be a good album, a masterpiece? i don't know. I don't expect that to be honest but i may be surprised. Yeah I agree with the OP in that an album full of Noel sung songs may be a bit dull. I really hope he proves me wrong, but Noel is not the best at singing some types of songs that have a lot of energy. His voice just doesn't seem to have that energy in it anymore, or at least he hasn't shown it. Just listen to the Lyla demo. It's not half the song the final version is and the only major difference is Liam's voice. Forgot about that, it just doesn't sound right does it?.....I remember the SOTSOG demo's to that leaked, just sounded weird with Noel on the Liam sung leads. Just out of curiosity whats your favourite song on Beady eye's newen? |
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Post by His Royal Noelness on Feb 21, 2011 17:07:08 GMT -5
As soon as you said an album of Noel tunes would be boring I stopped reading. listened to the first 3 oasis albums any time recently?
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Post by doggboy10 on Feb 21, 2011 17:10:43 GMT -5
As soon as you said an album of Noel tunes would be boring I stopped reading. listened to the first 3 oasis albums any time recently? Ermmmmm what? are you talking about the fact he wrote them?......I'm talking about singing wise for fecks sake, Could you imagine Noel singing "Live forever", "Supersonic", "Wonderwall" and so on and so on! |
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Post by discworld on Feb 21, 2011 17:12:19 GMT -5
Yeah I agree with the OP in that an album full of Noel sung songs may be a bit dull. I really hope he proves me wrong, but Noel is not the best at singing some types of songs that have a lot of energy. His voice just doesn't seem to have that energy in it anymore, or at least he hasn't shown it. Just listen to the Lyla demo. It's not half the song the final version is and the only major difference is Liam's voice. Forgot about that, it just doesn't sound right does it?.....I remember the SOTSOG demo's to that leaked, just sounded weird with Noel on the Liam sung leads. Just out of curiosity whats your favourite song on Beady eye's newen? This kind of comparison is not really fair because we compare Liam sung song with Noel backing vocals (giving some dynamics) and Noel demo (or vocal guide) version of Liam sung song. |
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Post by discworld on Feb 21, 2011 17:14:54 GMT -5
As soon as you said an album of Noel tunes would be boring I stopped reading. listened to the first 3 oasis albums any time recently? Ermmmmm what? are you talking about the fact he wrote them?......I'm talking about singing wise for fecks sake, Could you imagine Noel singing "Live forever", "Supersonic", "Wonderwall" and so on and so on! Did you hear The Dreams We Have As Children album? |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 21, 2011 17:17:11 GMT -5
One question to all:
Does an album have to have "rockers" to be worth our time?
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Post by dhamon on Feb 21, 2011 17:17:35 GMT -5
Noel wrote certain songs with Liam in mind. I'm sure he'll do fine with his album.
While I prefer Liam vocals on Supersonic, I prefer Noel's version of Wonderwall and he does fine on Live Forever.
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Post by doggboy10 on Feb 21, 2011 17:18:07 GMT -5
Forgot about that, it just doesn't sound right does it?.....I remember the SOTSOG demo's to that leaked, just sounded weird with Noel on the Liam sung leads. Just out of curiosity whats your favourite song on Beady eye's newen? This kind of comparison is not really fair because we compare Liam sung song with Noel backing vocals (giving some dynamics) and Noel demo (or vocal guide) version of Liam sung song. We can only critique what we have in front of us though, and it's not really a criticism on Noels behalf just a personal point of view, Some people may have the view that an album compromising of Liam lead vocals is a bad thing and they'd much prefer Noel....and fair enough that is there personal opinion, wouldn't call them Oasis fans though as that would be ludicrous. |
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Post by tomlivesforever on Feb 21, 2011 17:19:01 GMT -5
2 issues with this thread 1) What lazy thinking. There are tons of great songs and albums that don't have Liam Gallagher as a lead singer. Noel is a great singer with more range and variety than Liam...even if it doesn't deliver a straight-on rock song as well as Liam. You are on some sort of LG sugar high after this album. 2) Why are you trying to discuss your thoughts on Noel in the Beady Eye section? 3) There is already a thread about this. live4ever.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=news&action=display&thread=64948I'd say Liam is better at the ballads aswell, imo DGA is his finest vocal. |
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Post by doggboy10 on Feb 21, 2011 17:23:08 GMT -5
Ermmmmm what? are you talking about the fact he wrote them?......I'm talking about singing wise for fecks sake, Could you imagine Noel singing "Live forever", "Supersonic", "Wonderwall" and so on and so on! Did you hear The Dreams We Have As Children album? Yes it was a very good live acoustic album of a collection of songs essentially being covered, do I prefer those tracks over the recorded versions? No. And to the other person about whether you have to have a rocker on album...the answer would be no, I still stand by my view that I would find a full Noel sung album a little boring.....then again having witnessed what Noel has done the last 20 years I wouldn't put it past him to produce an all time classic. |
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Post by Iliad ♣ on Feb 21, 2011 17:27:29 GMT -5
Noel is good on ballads, but horrible on rockers. So we'll have to wait and see what kind of songs he's going to put on his album!
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Post by supersonic8587 on Feb 21, 2011 17:32:46 GMT -5
Yeah I agree with the OP in that an album full of Noel sung songs may be a bit dull. I really hope he proves me wrong, but Noel is not the best at singing some types of songs that have a lot of energy. His voice just doesn't seem to have that energy in it anymore, or at least he hasn't shown it. Just listen to the Lyla demo. It's not half the song the final version is and the only major difference is Liam's voice. Forgot about that, it just doesn't sound right does it?.....I remember the SOTSOG demo's to that leaked, just sounded weird with Noel on the Liam sung leads. Just out of curiosity whats your favourite song on Beady eye's newen? Tough question, but I'm going with The Morning Son right now. It was my favorite after listening to the previews and the full version exceeded what I was expecting to hear from it. Something about it just gets me every listen and the solo in the middle and the outro are amazing. I've seen some people on here say it doesn't go anywhere, which I just don't get. One question to all: Does an album have to have "rockers" to be worth our time? Not at all. Some one else mentioned The Dreams We Have as Children, and I did listen to it and thought it was great. But I only listen to that when I'm in a certain kind of mood (i.e. tired or worn out). DGSS is an album that has a variety of songs I can listen to no matter how I'm feeling at any moment. There's something on there for when I'm in my car driving with my windows down or when I'm walking back to my house after a long day of work and just feel like passing out. It's this kind of variety that made my first Oasis album, WTSMG, feel so special, and it's this kind of variety that I think Noel's album will lack. |
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Post by His Royal Noelness on Feb 21, 2011 17:34:45 GMT -5
Noel's version of Wonderwall is much better than Liam's.
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Post by tomlivesforever on Feb 21, 2011 17:40:36 GMT -5
Well thats a matter of opinion, and I would say that the majority would disagree.
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Post by doggboy10 on Feb 21, 2011 17:48:08 GMT -5
Noel's version of Wonderwall is much better than Liam's. I think the statement below your avatar says it all, are you a fan of Oasis?...or just Noel G songs?  |
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Post by acquiesceyeah on Feb 21, 2011 17:49:13 GMT -5
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Post by dhamon on Feb 21, 2011 17:49:38 GMT -5
Noel's version from the acoustic gigs with Gem is easily the best of Wonderwall.
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We heard his so called masterpiece "Stop the clocks" (albeit unfinished) and was not impressed at all.
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