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Post by andymorris on Feb 19, 2011 18:19:09 GMT -5
Here comes the production debate again. ;D
It's obvious without even looking at the sleeve that Lillywhite didnt touch the bsides.
IMO, they represent the band better. Not talking bout the quality of the songs, only the sound. Warmer sound, more spontaneity, especially on World Outside My Room which sounds like it was recorded on a lo fi 4-track device. And everything sound absolutely marvelous on it. No shit studio effect, just 4 guys playing. While i dont really like Sons of the stage and Two of a kind as songs, the sound on both of them is also rejuvenating.
Even if i enjoy the record, i cant help but regret that they didnt produce it themselves. It happens a lot with bands, but i find that they lost something along the way. Like on The Roller or Wigwam. Really too clean.
What do you think ?
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Post by cavie on Feb 19, 2011 18:22:31 GMT -5
The Roller and Wigwam sound ace. I kind of see what you're saying but I think Lillywhite did a bloody good job.
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Post by Beady’s Here Now on Feb 19, 2011 19:34:50 GMT -5
Great production on the album. I'm looking forward to the official release with proper crisp quality.
Wish DBTT had this production at times.
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Post by gdforever on Feb 19, 2011 19:45:00 GMT -5
I love the sound of WOMR but I am not big on the other two b sides. And I wouldn't like an entire album produced like WOMR was.
There are high and low points productionwise on the album...but it generally I think it's pretty good.
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Post by The Morning Son on Feb 19, 2011 19:55:05 GMT -5
I think the production is good, the album sounds clean in the right places and muddy in the right places. The only song that I think could have been improved is Beat Goes On, great tune but sometimes its just a lot going on however that may be down to the quality of leak.
The issue I have is how each track rolls into another. I really like it on DOYS how it flows like an album, especially at the start.
When I play DGSS, I hear FLW which is loud from start to finish and then out of nowhere comes this weird guitar on Millionaire and it doesnt flow for me.
The pace and intensity of tracks are up and down throughout the record and it makes me reluctant to listen from beginning to end. I rather mix tracks about and play ones I wanna hear.
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Post by gdforever on Feb 19, 2011 20:10:05 GMT -5
^ You are right. I don't think it was possible to make DGSS flow as well as DOYS. the songs just don't lend themselves to it. The album is a bit hodgepodge. Especially the transition between FLW and Millionaire...there was no way to make that transition seamless. Also between KFAD and SOTEOTN or TR and BTL are also quite jarring IMO
I don't think anything on this album really flows from song to song. It's a great collection of songs. But it isn't the best example of a cohesive album...
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Post by putthisin ® on Feb 19, 2011 20:20:10 GMT -5
Something tells me that SOTEOTN was produced by the band. Would explain the "Three Blind Mice (Bigger Boys Remix)" description.
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Post by cliffriff on Feb 19, 2011 21:21:21 GMT -5
i actually was just about to make a thread about how BAD the bsides sound compared to the album. two of a kind may qualify as the worst lag or oasis recording ive ever heard.. i dont know if its cause its an album rip. but the vocals are inaudible! and the bass and drums are cranked. badly produced id say. sons of stage is pretty good.. but didnt know lillywhite prodcued ONLY the album which explains a lot
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Post by adamwhite on Feb 20, 2011 2:20:50 GMT -5
I think the album production is brilliant , much bettewr than b sides. Lillywhite has done a gret job!
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Post by LlAM on Feb 20, 2011 2:35:46 GMT -5
I hate the "copy/paste" production of SOTS.
They nailed the production of WOMR though with its authentic theme.
I'm gonna wait to judge the album production til I get a cd or vinyl version.
The production sounds dodgy here and there, but for now I'm blaming it in the rip.
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Post by The Morning Son on Feb 21, 2011 7:58:18 GMT -5
^ You are right. I don't think it was possible to make DGSS flow as well as DOYS. the songs just don't lend themselves to it. The album is a bit hodgepodge. Especially the transition between FLW and Millionaire...there was no way to make that transition seamless. Also between KFAD and SOTEOTN or TR and BTL are also quite jarring IMO I don't think anything on this album really flows from song to song. It's a great collection of songs. But it isn't the best example of a cohesive album... Later on in the album they seem to blend a lot better, but the first half is so up and down. Rocker then slow song or ballad then rocker and its like throwing my head around the room especially when I have the headphones on. I suppose DBTT was like that in places though. Seems kind of weird considering they did the album like a setlist, weird sounding setlist if you ask me. |
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Post by andymorris on Feb 21, 2011 8:07:53 GMT -5
Try it this way. Just so much better. I know Wigwam is out of this, but seriously, it doesnt deserve to be on the record. Or maybe as hidden track or something.
Four Letter Word
Bring The Light
The Roller
Millionaire
Beatles & Stones
For Anyone
World Outside My Room
The Beat Goes On
Standing On The Edge Of The Noise
Kill For A Dream
The Morning Son
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Post by gaspanic23 on Feb 21, 2011 9:26:01 GMT -5
I kinda feel that the album sounds way too clean especially on The Roller. The b-sides are obviously not as good production-wise but it sounds raw and feels like it's a live recording in places which I actually prefer.
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Post by songbirdsally on Feb 21, 2011 9:40:38 GMT -5
Try it this way. Just so much better. I know Wigwam is out of this, but seriously, it doesnt deserve to be on the record. Or maybe as hidden track or something. Can anyone explain me what the point of a hidden track is? Seriously i don't get it. It only annoys me.. You put the track on the album, or you don't put it on the album, and that's it for me. I hate having to listen to silence for like 6 minutes untill the next 'hidden' song kicks in. Not that it's actually hidden, cause the moment you load your CD in iTunes the track times tell everything. |
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Post by manualex on Feb 21, 2011 12:08:10 GMT -5
Try it this way. Just so much better. I know Wigwam is out of this, but seriously, it doesnt deserve to be on the record. Or maybe as hidden track or something. Can anyone explain me what the point of a hidden track is? Seriously i don't get it. It only annoys me.. You put the track on the album, or you don't put it on the album, and that's it for me. I hate having to listen to silence for like 6 minutes untill the next 'hidden' song kicks in. Not that it's actually hidden, cause the moment you load your CD in iTunes the track times tell everything. mmm take Send Away the tigers by manic street preachers when i saw it on grooveshark i trought that it was a 6:40 seconds song but the last 3:24 are 5 seconds of silence and a cover of John Lennon's Working class hero, that for me was a good example of how you do a hidden track(yes im pointing to you Mr. Gallagher  ) |
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Post by The Morning Son on Feb 21, 2011 12:48:34 GMT -5
Can anyone explain me what the point of a hidden track is? Seriously i don't get it. It only annoys me.. You put the track on the album, or you don't put it on the album, and that's it for me. I hate having to listen to silence for like 6 minutes untill the next 'hidden' song kicks in. Not that it's actually hidden, cause the moment you load your CD in iTunes the track times tell everything. Yeah they should be secret and nobody should know. Not a hidden track that people are aware of and expect. Its like bring out a new album but telling people words, chords or the effects first. Music is partly about that surprise, that new tune that just blows your mind. Yeah much more a of a secret track, a hidden track that people are aware of is pointless. mmm take Send Away the tigers by manic street preachers when i saw it on grooveshark i trought that it was a 6:40 seconds song but the last 3:24 are 5 seconds of silence and a cover of John Lennon's Working class hero, that for me was a good example of how you do a hidden track(yes im pointing to you Mr. Gallagher ) |
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Post by andymorris on Feb 21, 2011 13:06:04 GMT -5
I kinda feel that the album sounds way too clean especially on The Roller. The b-sides are obviously not as good production-wise but it sounds raw and feels like it's a live recording in places which I actually prefer. Finally Someone who agrees with me ;D The best hidden tracks are the ones placed before the first track. Harder to find. |
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Post by oneeye on Feb 21, 2011 13:13:26 GMT -5
they ARE a new band, but your just not gonna get that RAW sound of a proper new band.
I actually hope they stick with Lillywhite for the next album
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