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Post by SOULDIGGER on Feb 18, 2011 13:15:05 GMT -5
My girlfriend wasn't impressed with the BDI album, said its too long and found herself skipping tracks, she also said its too much liam, that Noel break in every oasis album was refreshing. Much to my disappointment I tried to convincr her she was wrong. Then she put on DBTT and I completely understood! This magical stomping rock record once again blew my fuckin head off and it hit me. Beady eyes album is decent but can't touch this album let alone most oasis records. We didn't skip one track as DBTT pounded thru my chest track by track. Also she pointed out that "kill for a dream" sounds like smashing pumpkins "mayonaise" or "soma" I forget which one. Two great songs never the less. But it kinda does.
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Post by wonderplan on Feb 18, 2011 13:20:13 GMT -5
can never have too much Liam. There's definitely some good songs on DBTT but for me DGSS flows better, sounds better musically vocally & productionwise. Not gonna take anything away from DBTT though as far as post 2000 Oasis goes that's a damn fine record.
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Post by BEng on Feb 18, 2011 13:24:15 GMT -5
Hmm close call.
I absolutely adore TIOBI and LTBL. Also Lyla was one of the first Oasis songs I knew (and liked).
Sometimes I like to listen to MF and TUTS (rarely actually). The rest are songs I rarely listen to, even though I don't dislike them.
In my opinion, LTBL, TIOBI and Lyla shit all over DGSS, but that is about it.
I rarely listen to DBTT as an album, I think DBTT has batter standout songs, but as an album I prefer DGSS at the moment. (same goes for almost any post-2000 Oasis album at the moment.)
But I think that only after a few months, when the dust is settled I'll be able to give a more honest opinion.
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Post by music89 on Feb 18, 2011 13:26:31 GMT -5
DBTT>DGSS>DOYS
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Post by BEng on Feb 18, 2011 13:27:39 GMT -5
This should've been a poll btw ;-)
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Post by paranoidandroid on Feb 18, 2011 13:31:40 GMT -5
seriously? DGSS shits all over DBTT (most albums do)
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Post by Frank Lee Vulgar on Feb 18, 2011 13:47:53 GMT -5
seriously? DGSS shits all over DBTT (most albums do) I agree - DBTT isn't that great. It might have been rather popular but it has many average tracks (MF, Lyla (which is really really bland), TMOS, ABWR, mabye LLAB). Neither DBTT nor DGSS has a killer single, but the better DGSS songs (The Roller, FLW, The Beat Goes On) are way better than anything on DBTT. I'd say DOYS>DGSS>any Oasis album except HC>DBTT. |
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Post by Headmaster on Feb 18, 2011 13:52:08 GMT -5
DBTT has better songs, your hear DGSS and miss that great song like TIOBI or LTBL which only Noel could write.
But DGSS is better produced.
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Post by jakecosenza on Feb 18, 2011 13:52:10 GMT -5
DBTT is definitely better...it's really a great album. Lyla and TiOBi are classics and it is one of the freshest and strongest albums Oasis ever put out.
For me DGSS is an 8/10 and DBTT is like an 8.5/10 but there is a big difference in that half point. DBTT highs are higher, and both albums have equal low imo
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Post by gdforever on Feb 18, 2011 13:53:16 GMT -5
seriously? DGSS shits all over DBTT (most albums do) I agree - DBTT isn't that great. It might have been rather popular but it has many average tracks (MF, Lyla (which is really really bland), TMOS, ABWR, mabye LLAB). Neither DBTT nor DGSS has a killer single, but the better DGSS songs (The Roller, FLW, The Beat Goes On) are way better than anything on DBTT. I'd say DOYS>DGSS>any Oasis album except HC>DBTT. Are WTSMG and DM counted as any album except HC? Cause that post surprises me in the case... |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 18, 2011 13:54:53 GMT -5
Well there quite similar records but i prefer DGSS 1.because its all liam singing and he sings much better on DGSS 2.the production is much better 3.13 songs is more than 11  4.DGSS has much more standout moments FLW, millionaire, TR and TBGO shits all over anything from DBTT 5.TBGO, imo its the best song liam has sung on since WTSMG Although it has to be said theres nothing on DBTT anywhere near as bad as BTL, B&S and SOTEOTN So id say DGSS 7.5/10 DBTT 7/10 |
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Post by Beady’s Here Now on Feb 18, 2011 14:00:19 GMT -5
Why do people constantly over look POTQ when discussing DBTT. That song is Noel at his song writing best.
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Post by gdforever on Feb 18, 2011 14:00:24 GMT -5
I think DBTT still edges out DGSS for me. Not by a huge amount...but a clear win.
I don't hate any of the tunes on DBTT and the high points are higher.
Would ever say the low points are lower on DGSS. Nothing makes me want to skip it on DBTT like SOTEOTN. And though right now I am listening to and really enjoying the tunes on DGSS...but I know in the end in six years I'll be listening more to DBTT.
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Post by Beady’s Here Now on Feb 18, 2011 14:09:03 GMT -5
As for the topic of this thread, I'm going to need to give it more thought. All I can say right now is that DGSS is much easier to listen to - DBTT is rawer whereas DGSS is polished. Does that necessarily make one album better than the other? Of course not. But then again, DBTT was, of course, much more mature with the song writing thanks to a certain Noel Gallagher.
It's too hard to compare these 2 albums. Maybe I'll have a definitive opinion later.
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Post by Frank Lee Vulgar on Feb 18, 2011 14:57:22 GMT -5
I agree - DBTT isn't that great. It might have been rather popular but it has many average tracks (MF, Lyla (which is really really bland), TMOS, ABWR, mabye LLAB). Neither DBTT nor DGSS has a killer single, but the better DGSS songs (The Roller, FLW, The Beat Goes On) are way better than anything on DBTT. I'd say DOYS>DGSS>any Oasis album except HC>DBTT. Are WTSMG and DM counted as any album except HC? Cause that post surprises me in the case... Got me there ;D WTSMG and DM aren't ordinary albums, they're...masterpieces Of course those two are the best Oasis albums, no discussion about that is necessary. On topic I agree with NL4E - I'll think about it again in a few months. Right now DGSS is just too fresh. |
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Post by MacaRonic on Feb 18, 2011 16:10:53 GMT -5
I don't know which one I prefer off the top me head so I'll do it track by track (which probably isn't fair) but anyway f#ck it. I'll take 'Standing On The Edge Of Noise' and 'Bring The Light' off DGSS (which definitely isn't fair) because it has 13 tracks and DBTT has 11. So basically it's the best 11 off DGSS versus the 11 off DBTT. Here goes....... Bold wins. iiiii draw. Four Letter Word vs Turn Up The SunMillionaire vs Mucky Fingers The Roller vs Lyla Beatles and Stones vs Love Like A BombWind Up Dream vs The Importance Of Being IdleFor Anyone vs The Meaning Of Soul Kill for A Dream vs Guess God Thinks I'm AbelWigwam vs Part Of The Queue Three Ring Circus vs Keep The Dream Alive The Beat Goes On vs A Bell Will Ring The Morning Son vs Let There Be Love Wow, I didn't expect that. So I guess DGSS wins. Easily.  9-5. |
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Post by Silence Dogood on Feb 18, 2011 16:57:53 GMT -5
i never really liked Lyla, in fact i thought it was nothing special. Live as we all know it's a whole different story but we're not judging live renditions here.
Let There Be Love is great, and to be honest the other songs i like the most from that album are Liam's and Andy's so yeah...
i still like DBTT just a bit better than DGSS. That doesn't mean DGSS isn't better than a few other Oasis albums(SOTSOG/HC/DOYS)
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Post by Silence Dogood on Feb 18, 2011 17:07:44 GMT -5
Four Letter Word vs Turn Up The Sun
Millionaire vs Mucky Fingers(live is one hell of a song)
The Roller vs Lyla(live, it can't be touched)
Beatles and Stones vs Love Like A Bomb
Wind Up Dream vs The Importance Of Being Idle
For Anyone vs The Meaning Of Soul
Kill for A Dream vs Guess God Thinks I'm Abel
Wigwam vs Part Of The Queue
Three Ring Circus vs Keep The Dream Alive(this isn't even close)
The Beat Goes On vs A Bell Will Ring
The Morning Son vs Let There Be Love(also a no-brainer)
interesting, never thought of comparing the albums like this, make things a whole lot easier i guess.
having said all that, the best song on DBTT are imo a bit better than the best DGSS has to offer. very VERY close.
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Post by ciangiff on Feb 18, 2011 17:24:24 GMT -5
I completely agree with this except I would choose Lyla over The Roller. DGSS still wins though!
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Post by Lundblad on Feb 18, 2011 18:46:23 GMT -5
DBTT is a very "even" album. It has perhaps less stand-out tracks than any other Oasis album, but the quality of the weaker tracks are much better than the likes on SOTSOG, HC and DOYS. It's a nice 60s pop/rock record, but personally I prefer the more colourfully produced and more powerful DOYS.
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Post by gdforever on Feb 18, 2011 18:52:32 GMT -5
DBTT is a very "even" album. It has perhaps less stand-out tracks than any other Oasis album, but the quality of the weaker tracks are much better than the likes on SOTSOG, HC and DOYS. It's a nice 60s pop/rock record, but personally I prefer the more colourfully produced and more powerful DOYS. What thread did you mean to post on? Cause it couldn't be this one. |
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Post by Lundblad on Feb 18, 2011 19:37:49 GMT -5
DBTT is a very "even" album. It has perhaps less stand-out tracks than any other Oasis album, but the quality of the weaker tracks are much better than the likes on SOTSOG, HC and DOYS. It's a nice 60s pop/rock record, but personally I prefer the more colourfully produced and more powerful DOYS. What thread did you mean to post on? Cause it couldn't be this one. Yes, it was the right one. No mistakes made. Thanks for your concern, though! |
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Post by theultimatewannabe on Feb 18, 2011 20:23:37 GMT -5
DOYS=DGSS>DBTT
I'd say DBTT the one with the weaker end. Personally, putting KTDA and ABWR together in the tracklist was a rubbish idea.
The tracks give me the impression that they're too long, though I do not know the reason why. But one thing for sure is that Lyla is way too long.
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Post by BlueJay on Feb 18, 2011 20:28:24 GMT -5
The songwriting is stronger on DBTT, but the awful production lets it down. So as a listening experience DGSS wins, although I'd have to argue that DBTT contains better songs and melodies.
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Post by Headmaster on Feb 18, 2011 20:39:49 GMT -5
DBTT is a very "even" album. It has perhaps less stand-out tracks than any other Oasis album, but the quality of the weaker tracks are much better than the likes on SOTSOG, HC and DOYS. It's a nice 60s pop/rock record, but personally I prefer the more colourfully produced and more powerful DOYS. In fact, theres no shit song on DBTT, yes there are some weak tracks like ABWR, but they aren't shit like PAITM or TNOR. On the other day I was talking with some casual Oasis fans and find that they really like HC, DBTT on the other hand they don't quit like, the funny thing is that HC has better singles but the rest is very weak, on the other hand DBTT has weak singles(apart from TIOBI) and the rest is pretty good and it flows better. But at the end of the day the casual fans all wanted to hear the singles. |
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