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Post by cloudburster on Feb 16, 2011 11:12:01 GMT -5
Maybe not so much on the rockier stuff, but The Roller, Bring The Light, For Anyone, The Beat Goes On, The Morning Son...his delivery is simply sublime and just beautiful. I think he singing ballads better than he ever has done in his life, including in the Oasis-peak days. Songs like Wonderwall don't sound as good vocally as some of these Beady Eye songs
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Post by RocketMan on Feb 16, 2011 11:15:34 GMT -5
the technology has improved
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Post by wonderplan on Feb 16, 2011 11:17:05 GMT -5
yep Liam's at the top of his game on this album. In an interview he said this is how he sounds at home when he sings & not the Oasis style that everyone's use to
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Post by wonderplan on Feb 16, 2011 11:18:19 GMT -5
the technology has improved it's not all protools, his delivery is naturally much better on this album |
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Post by Beady’s Here Now on Feb 16, 2011 11:58:19 GMT -5
I'm sure he used technology in the studio to some extent. But also keep in mind he's singing with a different delivery here. Normally he would be sneering his typical sneer that made him so famous, but more often than not on DGSS he's properly singing (See: For Anyone).
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Post by Deleted on Feb 16, 2011 12:40:30 GMT -5
He cares again like early Oasis.
And Lilywhite is a magician on the board.
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Post by alwaysnow on Feb 16, 2011 12:52:10 GMT -5
I like that he is sounding very good and real. He sounded great in The Shock of the Lightning, for example, but you could tell his voice was tampered with.
I think in DGSS he sounds like he actually does live, but having a great night, and that's what I like. The best of what we can really expect from him nowadays.
However, just listen to any song from the first three Oasis albums and really, I'd kill for him to have that voice again.
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Post by Headmaster on Feb 16, 2011 13:45:59 GMT -5
I do not think so, his vocal on IOT is better than anything on DGSS.
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Post by thuperthonic on Feb 16, 2011 13:54:55 GMT -5
He sounds terrible on the verses of I'm Outta Time.
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Post by Marcos on Feb 16, 2011 14:00:59 GMT -5
He sounds terrible on the verses of I'm Outta Time. No, he doesn't. |
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Post by thuperthonic on Feb 16, 2011 16:47:59 GMT -5
Alright, maybe I'm thinking of the live versions.
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Post by spyrosfab4 on Feb 16, 2011 17:03:44 GMT -5
It needs more fucking reverb...it is croaky and weak........even on the best vocals on this album,there are moments where he sounds pinched and it distracts from the emotion each song is trying to capture....
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Post by Rifles on Feb 16, 2011 21:57:29 GMT -5
I think in DGSS he sounds like he actually does live, but having a great night, and that's what I like. The best of what we can really expect from him nowadays. You actually listened to the album and still say that? You can blatantly hear his voice has been tampered with on like half the songs - the worst being For Anyone and TBGO. You be crazy yo. It's only going to get worse the older he gets. He needs to lay off some of the higher notes and try to stay in his comfortable range or its going to get pretty ugly in future recordings. |
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Post by jlzoasis on Feb 16, 2011 23:01:36 GMT -5
I think in DGSS he sounds like he actually does live, but having a great night, and that's what I like. The best of what we can really expect from him nowadays. You actually listened to the album and still say that? You can blatantly hear his voice has been tampered with on like half the songs - the worst being For Anyone and TBGO. You be crazy yo. It's only going to get worse the older he gets. He needs to lay off some of the higher notes and try to stay in his comfortable range or its going to get pretty ugly in future recordings. What about World Outside my Room? I mean thats got to be a demo...no effects... I feel like that is Liam's true voice... The live stuff will give us a better picture on the status of his voice. |
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Post by Rifles on Feb 17, 2011 0:17:53 GMT -5
I didn't say every song used effects. World Outside My Room is obviously one where it's just pure Liam, but it's not a difficult song to sing. This dude is asking if he's singing better than ever and that's just a ludicrous question.
I don't understand how anyone can convince themselves that his voice is anything close to what it used to be. The only effect you heard on Liam's voice pre-DBTT was reverb or echo/delay. Now we have songs like For Anyone where he almost sounds like a different person at times because they've had to digitally enhance his vocals.
I mean...he's still Liam and can sound awesome at times, but he's pretty much limited to a certain octave and when he starts going higher it's not good.
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Post by mugsy on Feb 17, 2011 0:25:22 GMT -5
The sneer is gone. I miss the sneer. Still can't wait to hear him live though.
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Post by SunshineLullaby on Feb 17, 2011 8:30:56 GMT -5
I'm listening to Cast No Shadow as we speak. The answer to this thread is no. I'm normally all about opinions and things, but Liam's vocals throughout WTSMG are not only flawless but hardly touched by studio trickery. Neither of those things are true of his vocals on DGSS.
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Post by jilliam on Feb 17, 2011 11:10:35 GMT -5
I'm listening to Cast No Shadow as we speak. The answer to this thread is no. I'm normally all about opinions and things, but Liam's vocals throughout WTSMG are not only flawless but hardly touched by studio trickery. Neither of those things are true of his vocals on DGSS. Dito. This is a subject that I would live to hear Liam talk about. Soo many of us, me included, have our opinions on his singing/protools/autotune/ etc etc I feel Liam would be the one to honestly clear this up. Won't happen though....and I fear I know why. In any event he sounds good on this Lp, we'll see how he sounds live...even though, so much can be done to his voice at the gigs and most of us wouldn't be the wiser. |
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Post by gdforever on Feb 17, 2011 11:30:08 GMT -5
Liam wouldn't clear it up. He'd maintain that his voice is better than it's ever been. His bravado is amazing.
I've never heard him have a proper down-to-earth in depth realistic conversation about anything. Not albums, not songwriting, not singing. I don't think it ever going to happen.
I sometimes got annoyed @ Noel for running down Oasis material...but I also enjoyed hearing his honest opinions about albums a few years later. When Noel says 5 years later that he still likes a song I put more weight to it than Liam saying he likes anything.
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Post by SunshineLullaby on Feb 17, 2011 12:37:14 GMT -5
Liam wouldn't clear it up. He'd maintain that his voice is better than it's ever been. His bravado is amazing. I've never heard him have a proper down-to-earth in depth realistic conversation about anything. Not albums, not songwriting, not singing. I don't think it ever going to happen. I sometimes got annoyed @ Noel for running down Oasis material...but I also enjoyed hearing his honest opinions about albums a few years later. When Noel says 5 years later that he still likes a song I put more weight to it than Liam saying he likes anything. Honestly, that's why he's probably not going to progress very much as a songwriter. He admits he doesn't care if he has any songs on the next record (showing a "I'll take it or leave it" attitude) and if he can't cast a critical eye over his output it's unlikely he'll see his mistakes and avoid them in the future. We've been seeing him making the same songwriting...let's call them "choices" for over ten years now. |
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Post by vespa on Feb 17, 2011 13:49:13 GMT -5
ive worked with studiio equipment for many years and i can tell you now what you hear is laim gallagherd original vocal.hes renound for being great in the studio always has been.hes never really sounded like he does on record live.yes theres alot of obvious effects and stuff used but like on for anyone thats liams voice multi tracked to give it the kind of scouse accent for the las sound
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Post by thuperthonic on Feb 17, 2011 15:09:11 GMT -5
Yeah, I have recorded for many years as well and I just don't hear any "studio trickery" on For Anyone. It's just a high register for Liam so his voice sounds different.
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Post by bonkers on Feb 17, 2011 15:16:10 GMT -5
he sounds more relaxed on DGSS, in my opinion some of his vocals on later Oasiz albooms was more forced due to the nature of the song. the fact the pitch changes in most of the new songs i.e for anyone and the beat goes on, he is delivering the vocals his way and not aggresively which i think is what Noel wanted him to do, i think Noel wanted to him to belt out the vocals like in the 90's which i dont think his voice is up to (sadly) anymore
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Post by SunshineLullaby on Feb 17, 2011 18:37:34 GMT -5
Fine, don't call it studio trickery. I don't claim to know very much about professional studios. But I do know about vocal effects, and there's hardly a song on DGSS that doesn't have slapback on Liam's vocals. Not that slapback is bad; it's by far my favorite effect to put on vocals. But I get the feeling Liam sort of needs an effect on his voice nowadays whereas he definitely did not in the mid-'90s.
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Post by Rifles on Feb 17, 2011 19:17:59 GMT -5
Fine, don't call it studio trickery. I don't claim to know very much about professional studios. But I do know about vocal effects, and there's hardly a song on DGSS that doesn't have slapback on Liam's vocals. Not that slapback is bad; it's by far my favorite effect to put on vocals. But I get the feeling Liam sort of needs an effect on his voice nowadays whereas he definitely did not in the mid-'90s. I was going to respond to the other comments but you said urrything I was thinking. |
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