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Post by webm@ster on Dec 27, 2010 12:52:45 GMT -5
Will the Gallagher brothers' feud ever end? Let's hope not.
In the latest release from his post-Oasis band Beady Eye, off the band's debut full-length, Different Gear, Still Speeding (out in February), Liam continues his ceaseless war of words with brother Noel, again, this time riffing on the lyrics to Oasis' 1994 breakthrough hit, "Live Forever," which was penned by Noel: "Nothing ever lasts forever," Liam snarls in the new track, aptly-titled "Four Letter Word." Watch the video below!
And it gets nastier: "You've had enough / Staring out of dead end eyes / I don't know what it is I'm feeling / A four letter word really gets my meaning," Liam sings. And the sonic sucker punch sounds good -- seductive strings swell with a muscular and, at times, psychedelic Britpop sound.
But one thing is for sure: You can take Liam out of Oasis, but you can't take Oasis out of Liam: In the clip, he stands stoic at the mic, sings coolly but tough in his nasal Manchurian drawl, and dons the unnecessary sunglasses that have long been part of his Britpop uniform.
And while Noel's presently laying low with his family, with some talk of a solo album in the not-too-distant future, we hope he'll retort soon, and help this sibling rivalry live forever.
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Post by bonkers on Dec 27, 2010 13:03:21 GMT -5
hmmm they don't actually seem to have an opinion on it???
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Post by uboasis on Dec 27, 2010 13:30:42 GMT -5
They seem pretty positive towards Beady Eye so far.
I know we fans hate how all the US thinks about Oasis is the battling brothers. However, I think one of the few things that can actually give Beady Eye a chance here is if the story about this song being 'Noel-bashing' (whether it is or not) blows up in the states. This may be the one way that the US will pay attention to Beady Eye. If that happens, then maybe a great album would capitalize on it.
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Post by keazu on Dec 27, 2010 15:43:06 GMT -5
We do enjoy our sibling rivalry over here. Still don't think there's any chance of Beady Eye making any sort of impact. America's not really into this type of music, not in the mainstream anyway. Of the songs we've heard in full so far, I'd say the one that would have the most chance of being successful here would actually be bring the light.
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Post by oneeye on Dec 27, 2010 16:17:35 GMT -5
We do enjoy our sibling rivalry over here. Still don't think there's any chance of Beady Eye making any sort of impact. America's not really into this type of music, not in the mainstream anyway. Of the songs we've heard in full so far, I'd say the one that would have the most chance of being successful here would actually be bring the light. I think the Americans will be all over Beady Eye - especially the album and the songs we have yet to hear in full They got Lennon - they will get BEADY EYE |
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Post by spaneli on Dec 27, 2010 16:23:14 GMT -5
^^Hahahaha really?!? BDI isnt really a band that would succeed in a US market. America doesnt even know BDI exists and they have gotten no real radio play. You need radio play to make it anywhere and to think that this still Oasis and they'll just get radio play with first single is asking a lot. You need radio play and I dont think BDI will get it.
BDI in America probably wont be big.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 27, 2010 17:56:21 GMT -5
America wont give a shit about Beady Eye. Well, except for the Americans here (ie: Oasis fans).
And really, I expect better from Spin. Poor article.
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Post by bwilder on Dec 27, 2010 18:28:09 GMT -5
^^Hahahaha really?!? BDI isnt really a band that would succeed in a US market. America doesnt even know BDI exists and they have gotten no real radio play. You need radio play to make it anywhere and to think that this still Oasis and they'll just get radio play with first single is asking a lot. You need radio play and I dont think BDI will get it. BDI in America probably wont be big. You can take the "probably out of that sentence. |
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Post by gdforever on Dec 27, 2010 18:32:28 GMT -5
I dunno America latches onto a rock-ballad here and there. They'd have to be really lucky. A song like FLW would never make it.
They need a ballad with a brilliant hook to break America I think.
The most they could hope for is high second tier...where all music lovers have heard the name and a tune. No way are they gonna be a household name though.
Think they could make it pay for them to go there though.
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Post by StepOut on Dec 27, 2010 19:16:08 GMT -5
Typical review from a U.S. music publication on Oasis. They always seem to tie in the sibling rivalry in some form. In my opinion, anyone drawing conclusions that the song is about Noel is diving way too deep into the lyrics and title of the track.
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Post by SunshineLullaby on Dec 27, 2010 20:36:53 GMT -5
^ There's a 5+ page thread called "Four Letter Word = Noel?" on this very forum, for die-hard Oasis fans. I'd say almost anyone who knows the history of the band would draw the conclusion that the song is about Noel, at least initially. At the very least, the thought has to pop into your head.
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Post by SOULDIGGER on Dec 27, 2010 21:06:21 GMT -5
The USA and Canada are full of POT Smokers and campers. "The Roller" is a weed smoking camp-fire sing a long! If there is any chance of BDI breaking the US it will be with 1st Single "the roller". It is a song North Americans will without question relate to.
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Post by Rain on Dec 27, 2010 21:56:10 GMT -5
Honestly Beady Eyes will have mid success, but not much in US. I think Noel's solo album will be mid successful in US, because a lot of US listeners I known weren't keen with Liam's voice or attitude. Everyone I known liked Noel and his songwriting.
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Post by Beady’s Here Now on Dec 27, 2010 23:06:13 GMT -5
Everyone I known liked Noel and his songwriting. Yup, a couple of my friends who aren't into Oasis are actually looking forward to Noel's solo album - one of those friends bought Dreams We Have As Children and really likes it. For the Americans - as long as they know who Noel is, they seemingly love his songwriting and voice. |
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Post by discworld on Dec 27, 2010 23:40:30 GMT -5
Everyone I known liked Noel and his songwriting. Yup, a couple of my friends who aren't into Oasis are actually looking forward to Noel's solo album - one of those friends bought Dreams We Have As Children and really likes it. For the Americans - as long as they know who Noel is, they seemingly love his songwriting and voice. It is also true for the Europeans ! |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 28, 2010 3:28:28 GMT -5
The USA and Canada are full of POT Smokers and campers. "The Roller" is a weed smoking camp-fire sing a long! If there is any chance of BDI breaking the US it will be with 1st Single "the roller". It is a song North Americans will without question relate to. Well, one out of two is correct. Us Americans do love our weed. |
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Post by Silence Dogood on Dec 28, 2010 3:39:27 GMT -5
let's get one thing straight....
they wont be "big" here but they may sell some album downloads.
as fair airplay time, obviously a song like FLW has no freaking chance in hell but perhaps one of their acoustic tunes could do what "soul sister" did for Train(after years of having been forgotten).
it's a longshot sure, but it could happen.
I never thought a song like TSOTL would make any serious noise but it did hit #1 on my local alternative radio station(The Edge) so you never know.
The only other shot they have(and i think BDI could make it happen with this one) is if the alternative/rock stations start playing SOTEOTN . That type of song always get a lot of airplay here in the states.
As for what Noel might or might not do, who knows... all i know is whoever think Noel has a better chance of succeeding here more so than Beady Eye are just kidding themselves.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 28, 2010 5:51:37 GMT -5
I hope neither of them do. Play the clubs/smaller theaters and/or make it to the bigger venues by doing what good bands do (tour a lot, release good albums, word of mouth, etc). Fuck the radio, fuck MTV, fuck all of that nonsense. They've done a good job of shitting up music, I hope no decent band ever has to share radio time with rubbish like Train.
Or just put the tunes in a commercial. I'd rather hear a Beady Eye tune in a commercial and them get popular off of that then hearing it sandwiched in between rubbish top 40 shit.
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Post by Silence Dogood on Dec 28, 2010 6:12:02 GMT -5
well it wont happen that way.
they did put TSOTL on a Jaguar comercial and that shit was on everytime the Rangers(baseball team) played cos Jaguar is a sponsor of the telecast so ...
still, that was Oasis with a big time record company behind them.
They also played(tho on a very limited basis) the video on Mtv Hits(premium cable) and on Mtv2.
the only way either BDI or Noel can get somewhat big here is if they drop some serious cash and pay to be featured on Vh1 and their disgusting weekly top20 countdown crap. Now THAT is a sure thing, anyone who gets on that show is pretty much guaranteed a top 10 album charting AND radio airplay.
It's sad that it's come down to this but that's the way things are. If you wanna get any type of airtime, your record company HAS to push hard for your single/album and payoff Mtv/Vh1 so you can get your video played.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 28, 2010 6:21:54 GMT -5
Exactly, which is why they shouldn't (and don't) give a shit about it and haven't since the turn of the century.
Though a beam of light remains in the fact that you don't always need a hit single to hit the top ten now. When bands like Arcade Fire and Spoon (who are on genuine indie labels) can hit the top ten, purely from hard work and dedication, there is some hope. When someone as obtuse and niche as Joanna Newsom can hit the top fourty there's some hope. Never say never.
But it will probably never happen so who cares.
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Post by dwagon41 on Dec 28, 2010 11:50:17 GMT -5
Whoever wrote that review more than likely is a poster or lurks on this board, and pulled the lyrics straight from Rolo's thread.
I would think even a below average journalist would be able to tell the connotative difference between the homonyms dead end and deadened. Using their actual meanings, these are the two possiblities: Staring out of totally numb eyes vs. staring out of a path with no exit eyes. Dead end is in fact a noun, and though it can be made into an adjective by placing it in front of career or job or sign, it's very descriptive there.
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Post by gdforever on Dec 28, 2010 11:58:34 GMT -5
Whoever wrote that review more than likely is a poster or lurks on this board, and pulled the lyrics straight from Rolo's thread. I would think even a below average journalist would be able to tell the connotative difference between the homonyms dead end and deadened. Using their actual meanings, these are the two possiblities: Staring out of totally numb eyes vs. staring out of a path with no exit eyes. Dead end is in fact a noun, and though it can be made into an adjective by placing it in front of career or job or sign, it's very descriptive there. I think dead end eyes wouldn't be a bad lyric. I find it quite descriptive. Eyes that can't see a future. Lyrics are like poetry in that they can bend meanings and rules more than prose. |
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Post by dwagon41 on Dec 28, 2010 12:09:03 GMT -5
This is Liam Gallagher writing those lyrics, not Byron or Frost - granted, Liam has surprised us all at times, but a poet laureate he is definitely not. Smart money is still on deadened.
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Post by gdforever on Dec 28, 2010 12:26:16 GMT -5
This is Liam Gallagher writing those lyrics, not Byron or Frost - granted, Liam has surprised us all at times, but a poet laureate he is definitely not. Smart money is still on deadened. Probably is deadened I agree. Dead End Eyes wouldn't have been a bad lyric though. Almost like it more...even though I know it probably not the lyric. |
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Post by spaneli on Dec 28, 2010 12:43:26 GMT -5
Yeah Liam and co. would have to do the rounds on places like Conan, Leno, and Letterman and then try and get a song in a commercial somewhere because they're not getting radio play with any of their tracks. The reason Oasis got a shit load of play was because they were Oasis and their name still meant something in the US.
And "lol" at Souldigger who thinks he knows what Americans are and will gobble up. Americans would have to hear the Roller first before they can gobble it up and in the US, BDI probably wont be heard. They're not going to get airplay, in America. Almost no band "comes out of nowhere". The indie bands that become big in America are bands that have worked for years under their own name and have released at least 3 or 4 albums.
No one in America knows that BDI even exists. The success that BDI does get, will take years. And thats only if Liam actually makes a real effort to go to America, or play the game. ANd that will probably never happen.
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