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Post by His Royal Noelness on Dec 17, 2010 17:49:17 GMT -5
go kill yourself. no one really cares for your opinion anyway have a word with yourself lad.
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Post by SOULDIGGER on Dec 17, 2010 17:54:52 GMT -5
Thanks spanelli. At least someone understands that its my opinion and I'm entitled to it. And I'm not apologizing to anyone. I never start anything, its always one of you throwing shots at me. And I defend myself.
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Post by deasy on Dec 17, 2010 17:55:45 GMT -5
Its really starting to scare me though how some are jumping on souldigger. He said he didnt like it and he thought it was horrible. okay? Is that any reason to jump on jim and try to "the saviour" of the band? Sure he might be judging them by Oasis standards, but that's no reason to tell him to shut up. Its his opinion. And for someone to say to him to "go kill himself" is just totally out of line. If you dont like his opinion then ignore it. I dont see why some jump on people for holding a different opinion. If you dont like his opinion then ignore it. Its that kind of blind fandom that is disgusting. Really, to tell someone to go kill themselves because they dont hold the same opinion as you. Thats the real thing thats fucked up. Not that souldigger might be an ass, not that he said it was horrible, not any of that, its the fact that some told him to "go kill himself." What's wrong with some of you? His opinion may be shit or it may be great, but let him have it. If you dont like it then ignore it, but to jump on someone because they hold a different viewpoint from you own is just messed up. You probably missed the dozens of other comments of his about various stuff. He takes his opinion as gospel and goes mad when people disagree. He has also made some of the most ridiculous threads I have ever seen in my life about things he made up in his mind and takes these 'hunches' almost as fact. It's about time people said something to him. The fact that it's in this thread is irrelevant
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Post by SunshineLullaby on Dec 17, 2010 17:57:29 GMT -5
I do think that people were more looking for a reason to jump on Souldigger as opposed to responding to what he said specifically about the preview clip. I called him an ass and although I don't know him, he certainly is an attention whore, at the very least. The Facts and Fiction section is riddled with nonsense "look at me!" topics and fake news stories.
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Post by spaneli on Dec 17, 2010 17:57:38 GMT -5
Are u guys fuckin deaf? Stop kissing this bands ass. Its a Shit clip. Wake the fuck up, sounds like crap. How can this song magically turn into something great? How many songs do you know? That u can't get the just of it off 30seconds, if u don't like my opinions then don't pay attention. I have every right on this board to voice it. So go fuck yourselves. Straight up. The tune sounds shit imo. You're missing the point altogether fannybaws. I'm not having a go at you because you don't like the clip, frankly I didn't know whether you did or didn't like the clip... your opinions are not something that I remember past thinking 'what a twat'. I was having a go at you because the way you post is like "Okay everyone, are you ready for SOULDIGGER's opinion?? HERE IT COMES!!' and then you go on to talk a bunch of shite in a very Barack Obama what-i-say-is-essential kind of manner You're a fanny and you act like a fanny so don't be surprised when people treat you like one. And Spaneli telling SOULDIGGER to go kill himself is only really too far for a put down if it's taken literally. And if the insults on here are to be taken literally then I would SOULPRICK to apologise for crap that he's spouted over the last few weeks He's a dick, you're a dick, and nobody on here is Liam Gallagher so I would very much like it if you bunch of pre-pubescent twats would stop talking like you are. Go fuck yourselves every last one of you. How am I dick? Listen I dont know what world you come from, but whether you mean it or not, no one should ever tell someone to "go kill themselves". You are really no better than souldigger, if you believe that anyone can tell anyone to go "kill themselves". If I'm a dick for saying that its not right for someone to tell someone "to go kill themselve" then yes, I'll happily be a dick. I will take it and you can take away every karma I've got. I dont give a shit. The fact that anyone would condone, a comment like "go kill yourself" shows something is seriously wrong with that person. And :buddy: something is wrong with you, if you defend that sort of shit. So yeah I am DICK for saying that, that comment was wrong. I dont care whether you mean it or not, it was going to far and should not be condoned.
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Post by spaneli on Dec 17, 2010 17:59:07 GMT -5
Its really starting to scare me though how some are jumping on souldigger. He said he didnt like it and he thought it was horrible. okay? Is that any reason to jump on jim and try to "the saviour" of the band? Sure he might be judging them by Oasis standards, but that's no reason to tell him to shut up. Its his opinion. And for someone to say to him to "go kill himself" is just totally out of line. If you dont like his opinion then ignore it. I dont see why some jump on people for holding a different opinion. If you dont like his opinion then ignore it. Its that kind of blind fandom that is disgusting. Really, to tell someone to go kill themselves because they dont hold the same opinion as you. Thats the real thing thats fucked up. Not that souldigger might be an ass, not that he said it was horrible, not any of that, its the fact that some told him to "go kill himself." What's wrong with some of you? His opinion may be shit or it may be great, but let him have it. If you dont like it then ignore it, but to jump on someone because they hold a different viewpoint from you own is just messed up. You probably missed the dozens of other comments of his about various stuff. He takes his opinion as gospel and goes mad when people disagree. He has also made some of the most ridiculous threads I have ever seen in my life about things he made up in his mind and takes these 'hunches' almost as fact. It's about time people said something to him. The fact that it's in this thread is irrelevant I get you, but for someone to tell anyone on here to "kill themselves" is wrong, no matter what their opinion. Listen I think he's an ass too, but thats no reason to tell someone to off themself.
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Post by spaneli on Dec 17, 2010 18:03:20 GMT -5
I do think that people were more looking for a reason to jump on Souldigger as opposed to responding to what he said specifically about the preview clip. I called him an ass and although I don't know him, he certainly is an attention whore, at the very least. The Facts and Fiction section is riddled with nonsense "look at me!" topics and fake news stories. I'm not saying he's not an ass, because he is. I will admit to that. What I was speaking out against is the fact that someone literally told him "to kill himself" because he went with a different opinion. I have a feeling that if someone told, say Rita to go kill herself because she went with a different viewpoint, a lot more people would say its wrong. I get that Souldigger as been an ass and a dick, but it souldnt matter as to who the person is when it comes to saying to someone that they should "kill themsleves." I dont see how anyone cannot see this as crossing the line?
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Post by deasy on Dec 17, 2010 18:08:50 GMT -5
Well to be honest with you, I consider someone saying "go kill yourself" on a forum basically meaning 'delete your account'. But that's just the way I interpret it. I highly doubt this Souldigger fella would take any offense to someone on a forum saying it. Especially since he probably thinks that he is immortal anyway
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Post by spaneli on Dec 17, 2010 18:10:22 GMT -5
^^If that was meant, then it should've been made clearer.
Someone tells me to "kill myself" I'm not interpretting it as anything else. I'd feel offended. Okay, and that's it.
For those attacking me because I'm defending souldigger, please attack my points and not the fact that I'm "defending souldigger". I'm just saying that for anyone to jump on someone that much for stating a sepreate opinion, is just wrong. And it probably doesnt mean that I'm "defending" souldigger (because he is an ass), but I'm really talking about others who may say that they dont like something and then they always get jumped upon. Its not so much a defense of souldigger, but a defense of an open opinion for others who may not agree with what might be the consensus.
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Post by kenneth on Dec 17, 2010 18:14:30 GMT -5
Why don't we get this thread back in track?
For me it sounds very promising indeed. Like a few others here, I also got the Live And Let Die vibe. Very cool. If the clip is anything to go by, it sounds like a pretty heavy song as well.
And that's one of the reasons I love Bag It Up so much. Compared to other Oasis songs, it's probably one of Oasis' more heavier ones. I really wan't Four Letter Word to be an opener like Bag It Up was. One of the best Oasis song this side of the millenium in my opinion.
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Post by tomlivesforever on Dec 17, 2010 18:43:54 GMT -5
Its really starting to scare me though how some are jumping on souldigger. He said he didnt like it and he thought it was horrible. okay? Is that any reason to jump on jim and try to "the saviour" of the band? Sure he might be judging them by Oasis standards, but that's no reason to tell him to shut up. Its his opinion. And for someone to say to him to "go kill himself" is just totally out of line. If you dont like his opinion then ignore it. I dont see why some jump on people for holding a different opinion. If you dont like his opinion then ignore it. Its that kind of blind fandom that is disgusting. Really, to tell someone to go kill themselves because they dont hold the same opinion as you. Thats the real thing thats fucked up. Not that souldigger might be an ass, not that he said it was horrible, not any of that, its the fact that some told him to "go kill himself." What's wrong with some of you? His opinion may be shit or it may be great, but let him have it. If you dont like it then ignore it, but to jump on someone because they hold a different viewpoint from you own is just messed up. Please read bradhorse's post to understand the reason, it has nothing to do with fandom and nothing to do with opinion of the clip.
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Post by rmillis on Dec 17, 2010 18:51:18 GMT -5
Why is everyone giving this troll (Souldigger) any attention? He obviously got his five minutes of fame and he loves every second of it.
Anyway, I love the vibe of this song. I'm a little worried about how the vocals will play a part in this song. And I feel as if this is the middle of the song, kind of like the middle of Falling Down with the guitar riff. This song sounds very promising and I can't wait to hear more.
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Post by SOULDIGGER on Dec 17, 2010 18:54:18 GMT -5
Why does everyone care so much about what I think. You guys say that I crave attention? Well look at this thread for example. I said the clip is shit and you guys have spent 2hrs talking about what I think. Think about that.
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Post by bradhorse on Dec 17, 2010 19:06:21 GMT -5
Why does everyone care so much about what I think. You guys say that I crave attention? Well look at this thread for example. I said the clip is shit and you guys have spent 2hrs talking about what I think. Think about that. No fool, we DON'T care what you think... that's what we're trying to tell you. You make posts about what you think of songs, like everyone else does, but you do it in such a manner that it's as if everyone is waiting on your opinion. Be more humble.
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Post by spaneli on Dec 17, 2010 19:06:48 GMT -5
Its really starting to scare me though how some are jumping on souldigger. He said he didnt like it and he thought it was horrible. okay? Is that any reason to jump on jim and try to "the saviour" of the band? Sure he might be judging them by Oasis standards, but that's no reason to tell him to shut up. Its his opinion. And for someone to say to him to "go kill himself" is just totally out of line. If you dont like his opinion then ignore it. I dont see why some jump on people for holding a different opinion. If you dont like his opinion then ignore it. Its that kind of blind fandom that is disgusting. Really, to tell someone to go kill themselves because they dont hold the same opinion as you. Thats the real thing thats fucked up. Not that souldigger might be an ass, not that he said it was horrible, not any of that, its the fact that some told him to "go kill himself." What's wrong with some of you? His opinion may be shit or it may be great, but let him have it. If you dont like it then ignore it, but to jump on someone because they hold a different viewpoint from you own is just messed up. Please read bradhorse's post to understand the reason, it has nothing to do with fandom and nothing to do with opinion of the clip. If you read my post better, I think you'll find that I was not referring to his post. I was referring to the "kill yourself" post. I think I put a seperate post to explain that that was the main point and the main thing that I was arguing against. And telling someone to "kill themself" because they didnt agree with the opinion of the band that you hold, is the very definition of fandom.
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Post by eva on Dec 17, 2010 19:07:24 GMT -5
chill out guys. I don't get it why everything turns in such a big fight if you don't agree with someone, why the insult? everyone has their own taste and point of view. and if you think someone is trying to grab attention, just ignore them FFS
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Post by spaneli on Dec 17, 2010 19:08:22 GMT -5
Why does everyone care so much about what I think. You guys say that I crave attention? Well look at this thread for example. I said the clip is shit and you guys have spent 2hrs talking about what I think. Think about that. No fool, we DON'T care what you think... that's what we're trying to tell you. You make posts about what you think of songs, like everyone else does, but you do it in such a manner that it's as if everyone is waiting on your opinion. Be more humble. I hate to admit this, but souldigger is right. If you hate that he wants attention, then why give it to him? lol Just ignore him, if you dont like what's he's posting. If you think that he's an attention whore, then you are kinda feeding it right now.
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Post by spaneli on Dec 17, 2010 19:10:15 GMT -5
chill out guys. I don't get it why everything turns in such a big fight if you don't agree with someone, why the insult? everyone has their own taste and point of view. and if you think someone is trying to grab attention, just ignore them FFS K+ for eva, thats what I've been saying for last few posts. If you dont like it, then ignore him. Well that and you should tell anyone to kill themselves, but I think I've said that enough. As a matter of fact I have, I'll cross that out.
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Post by SOULDIGGER on Dec 17, 2010 19:17:35 GMT -5
Ok well I'm sorry if I'm not one with words and I don't voice my opinion in your standards. So I will try to be more humble I guess. Next time ill just write "I'm not feeling it". Is that okay with everyone??? Geez.
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Post by rmillis on Dec 17, 2010 19:28:25 GMT -5
Ok well I'm sorry if I'm not one with words and I don't voice my opinion in your standards. So I will try to be more humble I guess. Next time ill just write "I'm not feeling it". Is that okay with everyone??? Geez. I'm sorry I called you a troll. It just seems like you piss a lot of people off and I was sick of reading an entire thread with your name in it. You're entitled to whatever opinion you want. Just please don't create anymore pointless/misleading threads. That's my only beef with you.
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Post by Beady’s Here Now on Dec 17, 2010 19:47:10 GMT -5
This forum has gotten pretty divisive and nasty when there's a new BDI thing to discuss. Can we all stop the unnecessary fighting? Trolls wouldn't troll if people ignored them. As for people being in the minority for opinions? So what? No one agrees with everyone all of the time. I've said this before, and I'll say it again - we're all on this forum because we share the same passion, which is the love for Oasis and supporting the brothers Gallagher. Can we put our petty differences aside and actually unite as a collective community, even if that does mean, paradoxically, of having the odd difference of opinion along the way?
As for the clip - it's ok in my opinion. Honestly not enough for me to judge either way. It's cool that we're being teased, but that's really all this is. It's just whetting our appetite. And by judging by the comments on here, most seemed starved and are hoping BDI can bring a full four course meal to the table. Here's hoping, as I know I, myself, am famished. [Actually, that was a good analogy, expect to see me use it in subsequent posts ;D ]
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Post by Beady’s Here Now on Dec 17, 2010 19:56:04 GMT -5
An addendum: Differences of opinions are actually good things. Differences can help people see things another way, and provide lively, engaging, and thought provoking discussions. We're all on here to discuss different aspects of the band and subsequent musical projects. How boring would it be if we all agreed Magic Pie was shit (which it isn't, imo) for example? As for the "kill yourself" comment: That was crossing the line, no matter what you think of the person. Let's say that the member took that 'advice', as has been the case with some cyber bullying of young teens in the past. How would you feel then? Words have meaning. Think before you speak (or type). Cheers. That's an additional 2cents from me for today. You're now all $0.04 richer
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Post by caats19 on Dec 17, 2010 20:40:44 GMT -5
Sounds like a James Bond theme if you ask me. which part of i'm outta time sounds like too
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Post by manualex on Dec 17, 2010 20:45:57 GMT -5
Sounds like a James Bond theme if you ask me. which part of i'm outta time sounds like too and the interlude of Falling down also sounds like one
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Post by rmillis on Dec 17, 2010 21:17:02 GMT -5
An addendum: Differences of opinions are actually good things. Differences can help people see things another way, and provide lively, engaging, and thought provoking discussions. We're all on here to discuss different aspects of the band and subsequent musical projects. How boring would it be if we all agreed Magic Pie was shit (which it isn't, imo) for example? As for the "kill yourself" comment: That was crossing the line, no matter what you think of the person. Let's say that the member took that 'advice', as has been the case with some cyber bullying of young teens in the past. How would you feel then? Words have meaning. Think before you speak (or type). Cheers. That's an additional 2cents from me for today. You're now all $0.04 richer You're analogies are killing me!
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