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Post by Beady’s Here Now on Aug 21, 2009 0:20:04 GMT -5
I expect this to be on partisan divide and since there's more liberals on this forum I expect Bush to be voted worse. However, I think for the most part fellow conservatives would consider this a good ranking, bar a tweak or so (regarding Clinton, perhaps) as good for the last few presidents 1. Reagan --- 2. Clinton 3. Bush Sr. 4. Bush Jr. --- 5. Carter No way in hell is Bush jr. the worst president ever. Hell, Carter was 1000x worse. And guess what, Obama is very close to being the next Carter if he continues on this track for the next 3 years or so. Carter is by far the worst president of modern times.  |
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Post by globe on Aug 21, 2009 1:35:38 GMT -5
You seriously need to get a life mate.
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Post by Beady’s Here Now on Aug 21, 2009 2:10:35 GMT -5
You seriously need to get a life mate. Such comments make me laugh due to their hypocritical nature. I need to "get a life" because I create such topics, but you don't because you read such topics yet refuse to contribute. Idiot. If you had a life you wouldn't have read it in the first place, going by your logic. Some of you are so stupid it's unbelievable. The last time I checked this is exactly what this forum, and this section more specifically, was made for. Get lost you first class prick. |
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Post by globe on Aug 21, 2009 3:11:18 GMT -5
You seriously need to get a life mate. Such comments make me laugh due to their hypocritical nature. I need to "get a life" because I create such topics, but you don't because you read such topics yet refuse to contribute. Idiot. If you had a life you wouldn't have read it in the first place, going by your logic. Some of you are so stupid it's unbelievable. The last time I checked this is exactly what this forum, and this section more specifically, was made for. Get lost you first class prick. First of all, I'd love to see you call me a prick to my face, I'd knock you into the middle of next week you little wanker. Secondly, 99% of all politicians are arseholes, and for a kid your age to be sitting making up polls about who was the better leader is very sad indeed. See that big wooden rectangular thing in the corner of your room? Thats called a door - I suggest you use it sometime. |
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Post by thelostchord on Aug 22, 2009 20:35:21 GMT -5
We haven't had a decent president since JFK, and even he was a bit shit.
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Post by Beady’s Here Now on Aug 22, 2009 21:24:50 GMT -5
We haven't had a decent president since JFK, and even he was a bit shit. Reagan? |
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Post by Poshbird05 on Aug 22, 2009 23:38:28 GMT -5
Reagan was not a good president, he spent shit loads and rang up tons of debt. No new taxes, Bush the first fell on the axe of the Reagan years when really he saved the economy from falling apart.
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Post by NYR on Aug 23, 2009 1:18:02 GMT -5
Such comments make me laugh due to their hypocritical nature. I need to "get a life" because I create such topics, but you don't because you read such topics yet refuse to contribute. Idiot. If you had a life you wouldn't have read it in the first place, going by your logic. Some of you are so stupid it's unbelievable. The last time I checked this is exactly what this forum, and this section more specifically, was made for. Get lost you first class prick. First of all, I'd love to see you call me a prick to my face, I'd knock you into the middle of next week you little wanker. Secondly, 99% of all politicians are arseholes, and for a kid your age to be sitting making up polls about who was the better leader is very sad indeed. See that big wooden rectangular thing in the corner of your room? Thats called a door - I suggest you use it sometime. and that's what i call owned. thelostchord is absolutely right, by the way. reagan was not a good president in every way but one. if not for him, it's very possible that there still might be a ussr. he did, however, have over 225 different people who quit, were indicted, arrested or convicted of breaking the law or violating the ethics code. anybody who had something like the iran-contra affair happen on his watch is someone i don't consider a great president. |
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Post by caro on Aug 23, 2009 18:52:16 GMT -5
why isnt obama in the poll?
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Post by Beady’s Here Now on Aug 23, 2009 19:53:36 GMT -5
why isnt obama in the poll? Cos we all know he sucks  |
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Post by Cast on Aug 24, 2009 12:49:04 GMT -5
all politicians are douches and yet I have a mild interest in politics. I'd say that Carter was our worst President ever. That's not to say that G W wasn't bad.
On another subject of Presidents is, what I really don't like about the public opinion is that everyone seems to hate on Nixon. The guy did quite a bit of good for our country in the day and I hate that people consider him to be awful cos Watergate.
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Post by Beady’s Here Now on Aug 24, 2009 13:50:43 GMT -5
all politicians are douches and yet I have a mild interest in politics. I'd say that Carter was our worst President ever. That's not to say that G W wasn't bad. On another subject of Presidents is, what I really don't like about the public opinion is that everyone seems to hate on Nixon. The guy did quite a bit of good for our country in the day and I hate that people consider him to be awful cos Watergate. Yup. Nixon was solid. I took a course on him from a Professor who was his speech writer! How cool is that! Very bias class, mind. Watergate, while wrong on so many levels still harshly impeded how history remembers him. However, he also fucked up Vietnam even worse with things like Cambodia and saying things like the war was unwinnable but he'll continue it anyway.... And he was paranoid, racist, and anti-semetic. Not the nicest man you'll ever meet. But detente with the Soviets? Opening with China? Some decent domestic policies? Not a great president by any means, but not as bad as people make him out to be. |
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Post by His Royal Majesty Revolver on Aug 25, 2009 14:37:38 GMT -5
I am sitting here wondering why nobody (Live4evr) has managed to explain WHY Carter was the worst President???
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Post by Beady’s Here Now on Aug 25, 2009 15:18:39 GMT -5
I am sitting here wondering why nobody (Live4evr) has managed to explain WHY Carter was the worst President???  |
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Post by thelostchord on Aug 25, 2009 17:08:31 GMT -5
Inflation, interest rates, and all the other economic problems in the Carter administration can't be blamed on him. That's fucking ridiculous. He inherited an enormous war debt at a time where the federal reserve board was absolutely out of control.
Although Reagan is generally viewed as very good, he did a lot which fucked us in the long run. His budget was extremely unbalanced, which caused prosperity for a short period of time but then fucked us in the ass in the Bush Sr. years.
Nixon was a terrible president, end of.
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Post by NYR on Aug 26, 2009 0:25:16 GMT -5
to be honest, carter was a shitty, shitty president when it came to foreign policy. however, he was never really given a fair shake because he was extremely unpopular as soon as he got in office. that was because he pardoned nixon.
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Post by Cast on Aug 26, 2009 22:10:52 GMT -5
that was because he pardoned nixon. Gerald Ford pardoned Nixon not Carter. |
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Post by NYR on Aug 27, 2009 3:34:26 GMT -5
that was because he pardoned nixon. Gerald Ford pardoned Nixon not Carter. you're absolutely right. my mistake. (+k for that) still, the 70s were filled with extreme cynicism, especially after watergate and vietnam. carter was a shitty president, but the economy's collapse should not be blamed on him. he was the wrong person at the wrong place and at the wrong time. meanwhile, president bush took our surplus budget economy to all-time lows. he brought us into an unnecessary war, which he lied to get us into. he authorized the use of illegal methods of interrogation ( torture). not just that, his response to the hurricanes in 2007 were beyond atrocious. they were criminal at best. it's quite sad to see l4e berate a guy who doesn't deserve the overdramatic negative attention. (he deserves some of it, mind you.) meanwhile, you try to vindicate easily the worst president of the past fifty years. it's purely political. |
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Post by Beady’s Here Now on Aug 27, 2009 12:43:22 GMT -5
Gerald Ford pardoned Nixon not Carter. you're absolutely right. my mistake. (+k for that) still, the 70s were filled with extreme cynicism, especially after watergate and vietnam. carter was a shitty president, but the economy's collapse should not be blamed on him. he was the wrong person at the wrong place and at the wrong time. meanwhile, president bush took our surplus budget economy to all-time lows. he brought us into an unnecessary war, which he lied to get us into. he authorized the use of illegal methods of interrogation ( torture). not just that, his response to the hurricanes in 2007 were beyond atrocious. they were criminal at best. it's quite sad to see l4e berate a guy who doesn't deserve the overdramatic negative attention. (he deserves some of it, mind you.) meanwhile, you try to vindicate easily the worst president of the past fifty years. it's purely political. Katrina was in 2005 It's quite sad to see NYR criticize a guy when he constantly gets dates and information wrong |
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Post by caro on Aug 27, 2009 18:38:23 GMT -5
I really need to find that information that shows that bush didn't get a surplus when he took office... and talking about blowing up budgets, I think that in the light of Obama's first 7 months, it is safe to say that bush was a conservative a moderate spender  |
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Post by adamhannah on Aug 28, 2009 1:51:41 GMT -5
all politicians are douches and yet I have a mild interest in politics. I'd say that Carter was our worst President ever. That's not to say that G W wasn't bad. On another subject of Presidents is, what I really don't like about the public opinion is that everyone seems to hate on Nixon. The guy did quite a bit of good for our country in the day and I hate that people consider him to be awful cos Watergate. Yup. Nixon was solid. I took a course on him from a Professor who was his speech writer! How cool is that! Very bias class, mind. Watergate, while wrong on so many levels still harshly impeded how history remembers him. However, he also fucked up Vietnam even worse with things like Cambodia and saying things like the war was unwinnable but he'll continue it anyway.... And he was paranoid, racist, and anti-semetic. Not the nicest man you'll ever meet. But detente with the Soviets? Opening with China? Some decent domestic policies? Not a great president by any means, but not as bad as people make him out to be. 'If the right people had been in charge of Nixon's funeral, his casket would have been launched into one of those open-sewage canals that empty into the ocean just south of Los Angeles. He was a swine of a man and a jabbering dupe of a president. Nixon was so crooked that he needed servants to help him screw his pants on every morning. Even his funeral was illegal. He was queer in the deepest way. His body should have been burned in a trash bin.' www.theatlantic.com/unbound/graffiti/crook.htm |
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Post by NYR on Aug 28, 2009 11:54:27 GMT -5
you're absolutely right. my mistake. (+k for that) still, the 70s were filled with extreme cynicism, especially after watergate and vietnam. carter was a shitty president, but the economy's collapse should not be blamed on him. he was the wrong person at the wrong place and at the wrong time. meanwhile, president bush took our surplus budget economy to all-time lows. he brought us into an unnecessary war, which he lied to get us into. he authorized the use of illegal methods of interrogation ( torture). not just that, his response to the hurricanes in 2007 were beyond atrocious. they were criminal at best. it's quite sad to see l4e berate a guy who doesn't deserve the overdramatic negative attention. (he deserves some of it, mind you.) meanwhile, you try to vindicate easily the worst president of the past fifty years. it's purely political. Katrina was in 2005 It's quite sad to see NYR criticize a guy when he constantly gets dates and information wrong oh, yes. bush never got information wrong. tell that to the weapons of mass destruction that we found in iraq - the purpose of us being there in the first place. it was in 2005, you're right. my apologies. still doesn't take away from the fact that bush's response to the attacks showed why he left office as the least popular president in modern day history. |
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Post by Beady’s Here Now on Aug 28, 2009 12:05:44 GMT -5
Yup. Nixon was solid. I took a course on him from a Professor who was his speech writer! How cool is that! Very bias class, mind. Watergate, while wrong on so many levels still harshly impeded how history remembers him. However, he also fucked up Vietnam even worse with things like Cambodia and saying things like the war was unwinnable but he'll continue it anyway.... And he was paranoid, racist, and anti-semetic. Not the nicest man you'll ever meet. But detente with the Soviets? Opening with China? Some decent domestic policies? Not a great president by any means, but not as bad as people make him out to be. 'If the right people had been in charge of Nixon's funeral, his casket would have been launched into one of those open-sewage canals that empty into the ocean just south of Los Angeles. He was a swine of a man and a jabbering dupe of a president. Nixon was so crooked that he needed servants to help him screw his pants on every morning. Even his funeral was illegal. He was queer in the deepest way. His body should have been burned in a trash bin.' www.theatlantic.com/unbound/graffiti/crook.htmI'm no die-hard Nixon supporter. He was a real dick (no pun intended) and paranoid but was a solid enough president. And his life story is fascinating - how he worked so hard from an early age to become so successful. Oh, and the Alger Hiss case? Phenomenal work there by Nixon. But that is one of the most hateful and disrespectful paragraphs I have ever read and has turned me off from even considering reading the full article that you linked to. |
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Post by queenoasis on Aug 30, 2009 1:04:45 GMT -5
Obama.
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Post by digsyssupper on Aug 30, 2009 4:35:55 GMT -5
You seriously need to get a life mate. Why does he need to get a life? he's talking bout the real world... things that matter, ye i dont live in america but its the most powerful country in world, i think its you who should fuck off, and get prioritys straight. |
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