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Post by halftheworld on May 25, 2009 19:27:22 GMT -5
sorry I must be missing something, who exactly was it the Keane "ended" their carrerr?? hmm, i hope i do not misunderstand any sarcasm here, but that was Alf-Inge Haland. while he was playing for leeds in 97 he got tackled by keane who fell and suffered a "cruciate ligament rupture" (sorry if that's not the correct expression). haland thought keane was pretending the injury, leaned over him and called him a cheater or something. keane had to pause for 9 months. when they met again in the premier league, with haland playing for man city now, keane had his revenge: this foul ended halands career. here are both scenes in one clip: later in his autobiography, keane admitted that he wanted to injure him.
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Post by supersonic1983 on May 25, 2009 20:55:27 GMT -5
this foul ended halands career. Myth. Haaland was forced to retire through an existing injury in his OTHER knee. The Ferdinand thing is unproven. I know that, you know that. It's conjecture, and the whole situation was only exacerbated when the FA decided to make an example out of him; something they've got plenty of form for when it comes to disciplining United players. Shame that this dickhead thinks that that consitutes an acceptable substitute for, you know, evidence. Like I said: fundamentally ignorant of the facts. I don't even know why I still get drawn into arguments with him. I've met pots of yoghurt with better knowledge and understanding of the game.
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Post by His Royal Noelness on May 25, 2009 20:59:57 GMT -5
I just think Ferdiand is just a bit slow and actually forgot the tests
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Post by supersonic1983 on May 25, 2009 21:10:47 GMT -5
I just think Ferdiand is just a bit slow and actually forgot the tests He called and offered to take the test that same afternoon, only to be told by the FA representative that it was "too late". He then provided a urine sample within two days, which tested negative. The fuckers made an example out of him. No more, no less.
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Post by Beady’s Here Now on May 25, 2009 22:54:06 GMT -5
It is a show you "fucking biff". Why do people go to games? To be entertained. Why do you think Roman Abromavich stressed greatly the need for Chelsea to play beautiful football despite them getting the results the boring way? Exactly. Sports are suppose to be entertaining, and thus it's a show. End of, shut the fuck up. why do i go to the games of my club? to support my club and my team with my voice! why did roman abramovich do whatever he did? because he never felt any passion for chelsea. for him, chelsea is a little more than a toy. roman abramovich is an example for the sad direction, football is heading. i'd feel heartbroken if my club got sold to a fucking investment fund or to a billionaire who doesn't know anymore, how to spend his money. it's fundamentally wrong, that football clubs are treated like movie theatres or something. it's wrong that supporters are seen as customers of someones company who are milked just to add a few bucks to the balance sheet and to guarantee a solid return on investement. and the sad thing about you is: as a self-titled arsenal "supporter", you've probably seen the movie, or read hornbys "high fidelity" a thousand times, while saying to yourself: this is what it's about. but from your posts i can see, you have understood shit. have you ever played football in a team? have you ever felt the pride to play for a club? not because it's the most successful one, not because it's the most attractive one, but because it's your club. because it is a part of your identity. and because those other 10 to 15 guys are your mates, even if you have nothing in common with them, but the badge on your chest. and that's all that counts! in those 90 minutes you fight for each other! and that's the same with the supporters. the supporters are a part of the club, of it's history! i know people that spend their entire free time for their club. do you think they do this for entertainment? they do this, because they feel as a part of the whole thing. they believe that it's their role, their duty to support the club whenever they can. and that's why i'd rather be with some "fat, half naked and otherwise" newcastle supporters or any other real fan. cause they will cheer, they will cry, they'll swear, they will even curse the players of their own team but they'll never (!!! and this means like no single fucking millisecond!!!) ever complain about not being entertained... because this is not what football is about. this is not why football became the most popular sport in the world. and this does not mean that i am not entertained by a good game. it's just not the reason why i love this sport and why i love my club. and to take noel as support for your childish thread is just pitiful. Normally when a team plays badly and loses, they get booed; if a team plays well and lose they don't - hell, sometimes they even still get cheered and applauded. Why? Cos fans acknowledge the teams overall performance, and even if they lose while playing well, the players did the fundamental thing by entertaining their fans. If they lose playing badly, then they failed every objective - didn't get the result, nor did they entertain their fans. I agree, Roman is taking the game into a bad area, but that's not to say that football/sports shouldn't be entertaining. Of course they fucking should be. Wenger, for once in the last 4 years, is right about something: Football should be entertaining If you're not entertaining, you're letting your fans down.
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Post by halftheworld on May 26, 2009 3:41:29 GMT -5
Normally when a team plays badly and loses, they get booed; if a team plays well and lose they don't - hell, sometimes they even still get cheered and applauded. Why? Cos fans acknowledge the teams overall performance, and even if they lose while playing well, the players did the fundamental thing by entertaining their fans. If they lose playing badly, then they failed every objective - didn't get the result, nor did they entertain their fans. I agree, Roman is taking the game into a bad area, but that's not to say that football/sports shouldn't be entertaining. Of course they fucking should be. Wenger, for once in the last 4 years, is right about something: Football should be entertaining If you're not entertaining, you're letting your fans down. why aren't the italians boed at every game then? oh boy, you don't even have a clue how football fans think.
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Post by His Royal Noelness on May 26, 2009 7:33:37 GMT -5
Normally when a team plays badly and loses, they get booed; if a team plays well and lose they don't - hell, sometimes they even still get cheered and applauded. Why? Cos fans acknowledge the teams overall performance, and even if they lose while playing well, the players did the fundamental thing by entertaining their fans. If they lose playing badly, then they failed every objective - didn't get the result, nor did they entertain their fans. I agree, Roman is taking the game into a bad area, but that's not to say that football/sports shouldn't be entertaining. Of course they fucking should be. Wenger, for once in the last 4 years, is right about something: Football should be entertaining If you're not entertaining, you're letting your fans down. why aren't the italians boed at every game then? oh boy, you don't even have a clue how football fans think. That;s because he isn't one
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Post by supersonic1983 on May 26, 2009 10:06:38 GMT -5
Football should be entertaining. Idealistically, football should be entertaining. But not every team can put together a squad of players with the ability to deliver entertaining football. Certain teams have to do what they can to achieve success, or just to get by, and to any football fan, that should be much more important. Case in point: West Brom went down playing entertaining football. Stoke stayed up playing ugly. Now ask yourself which of those two clubs has the happier set of fans right now. You and I are privileged in that we watch teams who can afford to play with an attacking philosophy, but Arsenal might well have to have a bit of a rethink if their performances continue to slide. Even United realised that their attacking philosophy was beginning to cost them progression in Europe, adjusted accordingly, and have since reached three consecutive semi-finals - and two consecutive finals.
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