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Post by His Royal Noelness on Feb 4, 2009 12:47:23 GMT -5
its the 2nd best album of them.......... 1. mg 2. doys 3. bhn its the 1st album of which i am excited from the beginning since be here now and the turning was great from the beginning...i dontunderstand people who prefer to be where or faliong down to this one, or even bag it up( all great songs...but...) You do realise that Oasis were the band that released Definitely Maybe |
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Post by thestellasarecold on Feb 10, 2009 23:06:47 GMT -5
I dig it. Its the first oasis song this decade that has that old oasis electricity to it. I would agree with that. Whilst I enjoy a good deal of Oasis songs from this decade, The Turning re-captures, in part, the spirit of that overtly rocking edge they had in the nineties. It's no Stay Young or It's Good To Be Free but it's solid nonetheless. Post Be Here Now, Oasis revolted against hard edged rock (guitars turned up to 11, an abundance of solos etc.) in favour of a more 'muted', obviously retro sound. The Turning is a good mix of both styles- there's gentle bluesy piano, a ferocious chorus and a solo which takes it to another level. Liam's vocals show good range and the closing acoustic twangs are nice (even if they are straight out of Dear Prudence). I like it; probably in the top five tracks from DOYS for me. DOYS is a patchy record IMO. Like a great many people, I strongly believe the first seven tracks are the best. Thereafter, it's middling at best. Indifference to some Oasis material, for many of us, is a result of Noel setting the bar so high in the first place (and arguably, letting the others write tracks). Even the group's 'worst' songs really aren't that bad and perfectly listenable when you compare them to many other bands. |
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Post by thedon on Feb 10, 2009 23:34:31 GMT -5
The production's terrible on it. The chorus needs far more oompf. Would've been perfect to hear it done in the way they used to do things in 1995.
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Post by pastorjeff on Feb 11, 2009 13:19:31 GMT -5
I don't know... From the very first listen, I loved "The Turning." One of the strongest tracks on the album, in my humble--yet accurate--opinion...  |
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Post by tomlivesforever on Feb 11, 2009 13:56:28 GMT -5
It's average for an Oasis song. Dig Out Your Soul as an album is pretty dull tbh, I don't get why you'd want to make an album with no clear singles on it. Oasis singles are usually great, so I don't get why they would like to make an album with no great songs on it. IOT and SOTL are clear singles, have you ever enjoyed somthing known as an 'album track' before? To suggest that its dull because they didn't try and put out an album with 11 singles on it is the most moronic thing i've read on this forum. |
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Post by tomlivesforever on Feb 11, 2009 13:57:19 GMT -5
Not only The Turning is an average song, but the whole album is just an average album. The worst album they've ever made. (I still really love the lads btw) HAHAHAHAHAHAH You never heard of Heathen Chemistry? |
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Post by themanwithnoname on Feb 11, 2009 14:00:13 GMT -5
The production's terrible on it. The chorus needs far more oompf. Would've been perfect to hear it done in the way they used to do things in 1995. Yes! That's exactly right. Nail hit firmly on head. Wonder if Noel could be persuaded to ditch dull Dave Sardy and get Owen Morris back on board? Sadly, I seriously doubt that would ever happen after Be Here Now (for which Noel seems to blame Owen). |
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Post by tomlivesforever on Feb 11, 2009 14:10:46 GMT -5
The production's terrible on it. The chorus needs far more oompf. Would've been perfect to hear it done in the way they used to do things in 1995. Yes! That's exactly right. Nail hit firmly on head. Wonder if Noel could be persuaded to ditch dull Dave Sardy and get Owen Morris back on board? Sadly, I seriously doubt that would ever happen after Be Here Now (for which Noel seems to blame Owen). Owen Morris's background was as sound engineer rather producer. He was really just starting out as a producer when he started doing oasis stuff and it sounds like it at times. I love BHN but are you trying to tell me its not clumsy production wise. MG is not perfect either. Dave Sardy has introduced a professionalism to the production of the records, i think the whole album is beautifully produced, you cant beat the keyboards in the turning. Fact is a lot of people on here will not be happy unless put out something that sounds as close to MG as possible. With 11 songs that could all be singles. |
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Post by themanwithnoname on Feb 12, 2009 8:36:36 GMT -5
Maybe but it often sounds dull and uninspiring - almost TOO polished.
Owen Morris may have been pretty raw but to me that was perfect for capturing the true energy and passion of Oasis.
Now the albums just sound flat by comparison.
Oh, and no producer in the world could have made Be Here Now sound anything but clumsy.
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Post by tomlivesforever on Feb 12, 2009 18:25:15 GMT -5
Maybe but it often sounds dull and uninspiring - almost TOO polished. Owen Morris may have been pretty raw but to me that was perfect for capturing the true energy and passion of Oasis. Now the albums just sound flat by comparison. Oh, and no producer in the world could have made Be Here Now sound anything but clumsy. Well no that was the whole problem. Owen co-produced with Noel really, during Be Here Now there was never an independant producer to stand up and say "hang on thats too much". I wouldn't describe him as 'raw', more inexperienced to be honest and got lucky. The records sound so much fresher now, Bag It Up and Soldier On being prime example's. |
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Post by themanwithnoname on Feb 13, 2009 3:23:21 GMT -5
Maybe but it often sounds dull and uninspiring - almost TOO polished. Owen Morris may have been pretty raw but to me that was perfect for capturing the true energy and passion of Oasis. Now the albums just sound flat by comparison. Oh, and no producer in the world could have made Be Here Now sound anything but clumsy. Well no that was the whole problem. Owen co-produced with Noel really, during Be Here Now there was never an independant producer to stand up and say "hang on thats too much". I wouldn't describe him as 'raw', more inexperienced to be honest and got lucky. The records sound so much fresher now, Bag It Up and Soldier On being prime example's. Soldier On sounds fresher than Cigarettes and Alcohol? Really? |
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Post by tomlivesforever on Feb 13, 2009 5:20:50 GMT -5
Well no that was the whole problem. Owen co-produced with Noel really, during Be Here Now there was never an independant producer to stand up and say "hang on thats too much". I wouldn't describe him as 'raw', more inexperienced to be honest and got lucky. The records sound so much fresher now, Bag It Up and Soldier On being prime example's. Soldier On sounds fresher than Cigarettes and Alcohol? Really? Errr...Yeah absolutely, are you trying to say that C&A doesn't sound the least bit aged or dated? In fact i never really liten to C&A on the record it sounds so poor, live is where that song becomes a monster. |
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Post by themanwithnoname on Feb 13, 2009 8:28:31 GMT -5
Soldier On sounds fresher than Cigarettes and Alcohol? Really? Errr...Yeah absolutely, are you trying to say that C&A doesn't sound the least bit aged or dated? Errr... Yeah absolutely. The whole album still sounds fresh 15 years on to me. |
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Post by Cidaror on Feb 13, 2009 9:40:34 GMT -5
No you're not, surprise surprise, people have different tastes, some people will like one song more than others, omg, I can't help but be BOWLED OVER WITH SURPRISE.
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Post by kenneth on Feb 13, 2009 12:09:10 GMT -5
The production's terrible on it. The chorus needs far more oompf. Would've been perfect to hear it done in the way they used to do things in 1995. Yeah, you're right! They should just crank the volume up to the max on the choir and the guitars and make it huge like the songs on Be Here Now. I love The Turning, but it's waaaay underproduced. One missed opportunity I think... |
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Post by LlAM on Feb 13, 2009 13:46:07 GMT -5
Errr...Yeah absolutely, are you trying to say that C&A doesn't sound the least bit aged or dated? Errr... Yeah absolutely. The whole album still sounds fresh 15 years on to me. LOL the production is like SO dated man |
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Post by okwhatever on Feb 19, 2009 22:32:01 GMT -5
I like the Turning - but I have 2 issues with it that keep me from thinking it's a great track:
1) It uses the quiet/slow - loud/fast structure that has become the default song structure for "alternative" rock pretty much since the Pixies (with Nirvana being the main instigator). Where I live that sort of thing is all over the radio stations and it's so over-used, it sounds cliche'd.
2) The vocals are strangly altered, almost flattened out. Liam G's vocals are one of the things that makes Oasis stand out for me, but here they've been produced into something pretty dull.
Other than that - it's a good song. I'm surprised their record company didn't push it as a single - but I think maybe the whole Cliff Richard sample would have meant less money for the band, if it were a single. Who knows.
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Post by unnaturalemotion on Feb 22, 2009 14:18:47 GMT -5
This is my favorite on DOYS, and one of my favorite oasis songs overall, then again 90% of Oasis songs are my favorites so...XD i can't give it a rank or a classification or anything, it's even hard just thinking about it so i just enjoy it and that's it, and that is the whole point of music, to not think about it and just enjoy.
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Post by Headmaster on Feb 22, 2009 14:26:56 GMT -5
Good song, the only thing I didn't like is the chorus, seems out of place with the climatic piano mood of the song, and that choir is kind of nonsense.
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