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Post by tank13 on Jan 11, 2009 19:20:25 GMT -5
You don't have to bloody run your fingers up and down a fret board like a fucking maniac to be a good guitarist lol. He's as good as needs be. The end. Actually you do. Maybe not move your fingers up an down like a maniac, but soloing ability IS what separates ok/average guitar players from the very good/great guitar players. I mean, seriously, anyone can play chords and be a rhythm guitar player. Thats for people who can't solo! I speak from experience. I've been playing for 7 years. Someone said it best though, Noel's solos fit Oasis music. Wish they'd throw them back in there.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 11, 2009 19:34:19 GMT -5
You don't have to bloody run your fingers up and down a fret board like a fucking maniac to be a good guitarist lol. He's as good as needs be. The end. Actually you do. Maybe not move your fingers up an down like a maniac, but soloing ability IS what separates ok/average guitar players from the very good/great guitar players. I mean, seriously, anyone can play chords and be a rhythm guitar player. Thats for people who can't solo! I speak from experience. I've been playing for 7 years. Someone said it best though, Noel's solos fit Oasis music. Wish they'd throw them back in there. Tell that to Pete Townsend, I'd love to hear every mediocre guitarist play rhythm like he did. Same for Keef.
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Post by tank13 on Jan 11, 2009 19:56:40 GMT -5
Townsend, Keef, are very good guitar players. Not great. Playing a short riff based on simple, fast chord changes, doesn't necessarily equal great guitar playing. When I, specifically, talk about great guitar playing, I'm talking Jimi Hendrix, Jimmy Page, Eddie Van Halen, Tom Morello, Slash, Eric Clapton, Stevie Ray Vaughn, and yes, even Prince. IMO, that is great guitar playing. I'm thinking about guys who literally changed the way others play guitar.
Although Townsends wind mills are guitar smashing are probably the most rock 'n roll thing ever. Keef is simply Keef. He epitomizes cool when he's playing.
BTW, love that colbert video. Where did you find it?
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Post by caimanque on Feb 10, 2009 13:52:50 GMT -5
Well, Noel is just Oasis guitarrist. A band that doesn't have very complicated solos. Noel cares more about the melody. BTW, I quite like Morello, Buckethead, Hammet and Van Halen, becuase they create very nice guitar stuff.
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Post by Cast on Feb 10, 2009 23:56:20 GMT -5
Noel's playing is melodic and thats the best kind of solo. Prince is actually one of the most talented musicians of our life time he can play like 30 different instruments, well i hear.
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Post by LlAM on Feb 11, 2009 4:12:31 GMT -5
The list is spot on TBH If you're looking for a speed-tapping-licking-playing behind your back-setting your guitar on fire-fret wanking-Santana solo then Champagne Supernova is shit. But it still sounds awesome none the less and that's what matters really.
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Post by cloudburster on Mar 5, 2009 17:43:06 GMT -5
There's one video on youtube at a gig in Cardiff where Noel gets a towel or something thrown on his head and over his face. It's there for a good 5 seconds or so before he manages to shake it off whilst he's bang in the middle of the guitar solo in Supersonic - he still plays it perfectly. Yeah, Noel's shit
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Post by NYR on Mar 6, 2009 10:10:55 GMT -5
Townsend, Keef, are very good guitar players. Not great. Playing a short riff based on simple, fast chord changes, doesn't necessarily equal great guitar playing. When I, specifically, talk about great guitar playing, I'm talking Jimi Hendrix, Jimmy Page, Eddie Van Halen, Tom Morello, Slash, Eric Clapton, Stevie Ray Vaughn, and yes, even Prince. IMO, that is great guitar playing. I'm thinking about guys who literally changed the way others play guitar. Although Townsends wind mills are guitar smashing are probably the most rock 'n roll thing ever. Keef is simply Keef. He epitomizes cool when he's playing. BTW, love that colbert video. Where did you find it? if not for pete townshend's guitar playing, we wouldn't have rhythm guitar the way we have it today. don't play down townshend for just smashing guitars.
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Post by mimmihopps on Mar 6, 2009 10:42:16 GMT -5
The guitar solo from "Champagne Supernova" Budokan on 20th February 1998 is the very best of the best guitar solo Noel Gallagher ever has played. End.
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Post by digsyssupper on Mar 6, 2009 11:04:21 GMT -5
I prefer melody over 10000 notes a second. noel isnt the most technicol guitarist ever but i like the melodic stuff he writes. Why i love johnny marr coz he plays reasonably fast but his stuff is complicated but simple still and extremely melodic prolly why noels likes him aswell
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Post by Headmaster on Mar 6, 2009 14:12:43 GMT -5
I like the GLIO outro solo from FTM, it could be o the studio version as well.
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Post by misterdude on Sept 10, 2009 10:08:20 GMT -5
Noel may not be a really technical guitarist like Slash or Angus Young but he still does really catchy tune without having too make it complex. I love the solo in Champagne Supernova, its one of Oasis's highlights, its really psychedilic. That guy who said its one of the worst can shove a guitar up his ass.
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Post by Strangers on Sept 12, 2009 3:57:08 GMT -5
Well, Noel is just Oasis guitarrist. A band that doesn't have very complicated solos. Noel cares more about the melody.
BTW, I quite like Morello, Buckethead, Hammet and Van Halen, becuase they create very nice guitar stuff.
Specially Buckethead, Noel himself said that "Buckethead is God" in 2001.
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Post by Leezy on Sept 12, 2009 10:06:52 GMT -5
Definitely gotta agree on Noel's guitar skills suiting Oasis perfectly, he doesn't have to be technically amazing at guitar playing, his guitar playing suits the songs he writes perfectly, n THATS what its all about. Me personally, I'd choose the more slower melodic guitar solo playing of Noel, Paul Weller and The Beatles over any guitarist that plays like Van Halen n Stevie Ray Vaughn. Its just the style thats influenced you and the style of music you make. If Noel started playing like van halen n started doing all this tapping shit n that I'm sure it'd ruin a lot of what oasis music is all about.
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Post by henrod89 on Sept 12, 2009 11:17:54 GMT -5
I remember randomly running into my high school head football coach at Guitar Center one time and he was playing a Les Paul. He was incredible; shredding up and down like no other.
Then he gave me the guitar and told me to play. I just started playing at the time, so I kind of sucked. And he told me, "It's not about how many notes you can play in a certain amount of time; it's about what notes you play . . ."
He's absolutely right. There are tons and tons of guitarist out there who can shred up and down the fret board in no time. But what seperates the good players from the great ones is what notes they hit during that allocated time; whether simple or complicated.
I totally agree. Noel's melodic solos are exactly what began to disappear in his later stuff.
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Post by henrod89 on Sept 12, 2009 11:21:38 GMT -5
I remember randomly running into my high school head football coach at Guitar Center one time and he was playing a Les Paul. He was incredible; shredding up and down like no other.
Then he gave me the guitar and told me to play. I just started playing at the time, so I kind of sucked. And he told me, "It's not about how many notes you can play in a certain amount of time; it's about what notes you play . . ."
He's absolutely right. There are tons and tons of guitarists out there who can shred up and down the fret board in no time. But what seperates the good players from the great ones is what notes they hit during that allocated time; whether simple or complicated.
I totally agree. Noel's melodic solos are exactly what began to disappear in his later stuff.
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Post by Ferret on Oct 9, 2009 8:26:29 GMT -5
You don't have to bloody run your fingers up and down a fret board like a fucking maniac to be a good guitarist lol. He's as good as needs be. The end. Actually you do. Maybe not move your fingers up an down like a maniac, but soloing ability IS what separates ok/average guitar players from the very good/great guitar players. I mean, seriously, anyone can play chords and be a rhythm guitar player. Thats for people who can't solo! I speak from experience. I've been playing for 7 years. Someone said it best though, Noel's solos fit Oasis music. Wish they'd throw them back in there. Well, that's a big heap of shit if I ever saw one. Using my own band as an example (sorry if this is too obscure), our lead guitarist didn't get into chords until he'd been playing for a few years. He's top notch at all that fretwanking stuff, but not exactly the best at changing from chord to chord. I fucking am. My rhythm playing excellent, but I just go for a bit of a Noel-style pentatonic thing when I'm doing lead. It's just different styles. Playing good rhythm guitar is harder than it looks. Where would we be without different people doing rhythm and lead? Not everyone can be Hendrix. Not everyone WANTS to be Hendrix.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 9, 2009 19:30:18 GMT -5
Steffen Shackinger ;D
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Post by masterplan200 on Oct 9, 2009 20:34:26 GMT -5
And he compares him to Dimebag (RIP)? Different genres I say
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Post by lionsden® on Oct 9, 2009 23:22:50 GMT -5
Ever listen to Be Here Now? Plenty of shit solos on that one.
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Post by marc on Apr 5, 2013 17:52:33 GMT -5
I am a huge fan of Noels song writing ability. However I'm sure Noel would be the first to admit that he couldn't play a good guitar solo to save his life. Noel can write song but cannot play guitar -FACT.
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Post by Mr. Bigglesworth on Apr 6, 2013 6:48:38 GMT -5
Townsend, Keef, are very good guitar players. Not great. Playing a short riff based on simple, fast chord changes, doesn't necessarily equal great guitar playing. When I, specifically, talk about great guitar playing, I'm talking Jimi Hendrix, Jimmy Page, Eddie Van Halen, Tom Morello, Slash, Eric Clapton, Stevie Ray Vaughn, and yes, even Prince. IMO, that is great guitar playing. I'm thinking about guys who literally changed the way others play guitar. Although Townsends wind mills are guitar smashing are probably the most rock 'n roll thing ever. Keef is simply Keef. He epitomizes cool when he's playing. BTW, love that colbert video. Where did you find it? i wouldn't even call Slash, Clapton or Page good guitarists cause they just do what they did and never improved. maybe they can play solos but a fuckin solo in every song, maybe as a climax, gets boring. how would a fretboard wanking solo sound on champgane supernova? i think just shit! they made the right solo for the right song, so they are good guitarists. it's important to know what to play and even more important is to be able to hold yourself back as a guitar player. for me one of the best guitarplayers (and a great guitar player ) is Peter Hayes from the BRMC. cause he playes in i think 8 different tunings and has full knowledge abouth these AND he really knows how to use effects to get a great sound for a song. I personally prefer this kind of shoegazing stuff over these boring blues pentatonic solos with knee on a speaker and wind in your hair.
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Post by Mr. Bigglesworth on Apr 6, 2013 6:52:35 GMT -5
I am a huge fan of Noels song writing ability. However I'm sure Noel would be the first to admit that he couldn't play a good guitar solo to save his life. Noel can write song but cannot play guitar -FACT. .... FACT ..... yeah sure
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Post by erddie on Apr 10, 2013 12:47:25 GMT -5
I am a huge fan of Noels song writing ability. However I'm sure Noel would be the first to admit that he couldn't play a good guitar solo to save his life. Noel can write song but cannot play guitar -FACT. This is your first post? What a questionable response!
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Post by nahuel89p on Apr 11, 2013 22:21:36 GMT -5
FFS CS studio solo is amazing, trippy, it's not a classic solo. It features Paul Weller genius.
Plus, that outro solo penned by noel at G-Mex is marvelous. Amazing the energy, the soul, the melodies, the structure.
Fucking journalists.
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