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Post by Shakermaker on Oct 15, 2008 5:00:27 GMT -5
I was thinking ... do ya think Oasis will release Boy With The Blues a a single ?
It was ment to be the first stand alone single back in early 2006. But back then it was cancelled. In different interviews conducted in February 2006, Noel and Liam both made conflicting statements as to the future of the track. Liam was quoted as saying, "After the tour we'll do some recording, then we'll put it out," whilst Noel said, "We had a couple of tracks left over from the last record and in our own heads we thought they were good enough to be released as an EP. We went back and listened to the tapes and we reckon we can get it better, so we're having the year off instead."
Now they released it on the deluxe disk. Well, all the other songs have there place there .. most of the remixes or alternative versions from the main disk of DOYS. Then LDSMD was already released as a single for the DVD with the same name. I Believe In All is a bonus track for the japanese DOYS.
So, and what is TBWTB then? It is the only song without any real goal or function... D'ya think it will be released as a single? It sounds like a nice charttopper single, for a wide public, just like Don't Look Back In Anger, it has the same feel .... (I think it's a mix between Let's All Make Believe and Don't Look Back In Anger ... not bad! )
TBWTB is a song that deserves more attention, then being put away on a bonus disk. I think it is good enough to be a EP, Good promotion for people to buy the Deluxe set ! What d'ya think ?
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Post by Moorish on Oct 15, 2008 5:02:25 GMT -5
Think would have definite single potential... if they'd done the smart thing and used the refrain as the chorus. The one they used in the song is a bit underwhelming, as Noel himself has said.
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Post by Shakermaker on Oct 15, 2008 5:06:30 GMT -5
I've heard your remix of it, which is also a nice version. But, still, the final version of theirs, is good as a EP, i'm sure. The "Come All Together"-bit will stick inside peoples heads for ages .. (just like the lalalalalalla bit of Hey Jude)
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Post by Moorish on Oct 15, 2008 6:07:09 GMT -5
I wonder if we'll ever see them do an EP release, or another standalone single? I know they released LDSMD on its own, but that was just as a download.
The under-performance of TSOTL as a single probably hasn't helped in terms of enticing them to do such a thing.
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Post by kenneth on Oct 15, 2008 6:21:04 GMT -5
I wonder if we'll ever see them do an EP release, or another standalone single? I know they released LDSMD on its own, but that was just as a download. The under-performance of TSOTL as a single probably hasn't helped in terms of enticing them to do such a thing. I wouldn't mind having them release a double A side single/EP of ...Record Machine, and Come On, It's Alright. The bastards won't probably do it, seeing as they can be quite a bit lazy some times ;D Having this as a single, with perhaps a demo version of some song, along with either a live version or a left over song for a session shouldn't be to hard. On topic: I definitely wouldn't mind them releasing The Boy With The Blues as a single. On first listen, it didn't strike me as much as Bag It Up or I'm Outta Time did, but now I can't stop listening to it! It's really great!
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Post by Micky on Oct 15, 2008 6:21:40 GMT -5
The under-performance of TSOTL as a single probably hasn't helped in terms of enticing them to do such a thing. They messed up on two points with TSOTL. 1: They released it a week before the album came out. 2: The space between airing it on the radio and releasing it was too long. I think that had they released it at the time of airing it on the radio it would have done a lot better. By the time it came out everyone had heard it and the big "Oasis are back" had blown over. I only hope we get at least a couple of new B-Sides than that of the bonus disc.
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Post by Shakermaker on Oct 15, 2008 7:14:04 GMT -5
I wonder if we'll ever see them do an EP release, or another standalone single? I know they released LDSMD on its own, but that was just as a download. The under-performance of TSOTL as a single probably hasn't helped in terms of enticing them to do such a thing. Or probably it has ... because, DOYS doesn't really have real poppy songs. I'm Outta Time is a nice ballad, is a great Liam song, but doesn't have the driving power that TBWTB has. Falling Down is the song with the best chart potentions. The thing with The Shock Of The Lightning is that it's a great song to an Oasis fan, but it doesn't have a real remindable refrain, it's to much of the same thing and it's to loud for a wide public. The Turning, in that aspect, is a better song, reminds a bit of Morning Glory (song), but as well would be to loud for nowadays. Back in the 90's loud was good. These days most of the time melody is more important. Falling Down is a great song, with a nice melody, great mixed, and a nice radio song. I'm Outta Time is nice, nice refrain, beautiful song, but to weak, just like Let There Be Love. Radiolisteners will fall asleep. It would do good in the charts, but will not be a absolute classic charttopper. Therefore Falling Down and The Boy With The Blues are in my opinion the most applicable songs to be charttoppers at the moment. They are mixed well, have a great melody and are powerfull radiosongs ...
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Post by johnlennon696 on Oct 15, 2008 7:31:15 GMT -5
It would be great if they release an EP of some kind, with Come On, It's Alright on it also...
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Post by LlAM on Oct 15, 2008 7:35:51 GMT -5
Come On, It's Alright should be released as a single. It's the best song ever since Stop The Clocks
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Post by Shakermaker on Oct 15, 2008 7:40:11 GMT -5
Come On, It's Alright should be released as a single. It's the best song ever since Stop The Clocks How can you say that, it's a song nobody has heard yet, right?
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Post by LlAM on Oct 15, 2008 7:52:24 GMT -5
Come On, It's Alright should be released as a single. It's the best song ever since Stop The Clocks How can you say that, it's a song nobody has heard yet, right? That's what I thought too, but everybody seems to be going on about it so I jumped on the bandwagon
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Post by johnlennon696 on Oct 15, 2008 7:58:39 GMT -5
Wish that song was at least on the Bonus Disc, and i hope we do get to hear it soon cos if Noel considered as a single, it must be decent!!
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Post by Moorish on Oct 15, 2008 9:06:02 GMT -5
The thing with The Shock Of The Lightning is that it's a great song to an Oasis fan, but it doesn't have a real remindable refrain, it's to much of the same thing and it's to loud for a wide public. The Turning, in that aspect, is a better song, reminds a bit of Morning Glory (song), but as well would be to loud for nowadays. Back in the 90's loud was good. These days most of the time melody is more important. I find TSOTL utterly average, myself. It's the most predictable song on the record. You're right about the lack of memorability; the chorus is an utter non-event. I don't think "loud" has anything to do with anything, really; plenty of loud songs by The White Stripes, Kings Of Leon, Jet etc have done well in the UK charts. TSOTL is just an average tune, and not something that would convince anyone not in the Oasis fanbase (i.e. us) that the album would be anything more than the usual shmoo-shual. The Turning should have been the single, for definite. It's something new for them, an Oasis song with a definite different flavour and texture, but it's still got a great melody, an excellent chorus, and even *gasp* a guitar solo! I agree with you on Falling Down, I think that has good radio play/chart potential.
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Post by lampard on Oct 15, 2008 10:31:22 GMT -5
TBWTB is seems to me to be liam doing a take on the importance of being idle. re record and put out on EP
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Post by keystone1316 on Oct 15, 2008 15:44:14 GMT -5
Wish that song was at least on the Bonus Disc, and i hope we do get to hear it soon cos if Noel considered as a single, it must be decent!! Noel wanted Mucky Fingers to be the first DBTT single. And if I remember correctly... I also think he might have wanted Force of Nature to be a single too? but yea, would love to hear Come On, Its Alright regardless. Im guessing the band really didnt care how well the single did on the charts. However, having a no. 1 single would be great for album sales... and they fucked up terribly by releasing TSOTL so close to the album and so far away from the radio play date. Terrible marketing strategy.
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Post by Bloomfield on Oct 15, 2008 15:53:46 GMT -5
Wish that song was at least on the Bonus Disc, and i hope we do get to hear it soon cos if Noel considered as a single, it must be decent!! Noel wanted Mucky Fingers to be the first DBTT single. And if I remember correctly... I also think he might have wanted Force of Nature to be a single too? but yea, would love to hear Come On, Its Alright regardless. Im guessing the band really didnt care how well the single did on the charts. However, having a no. 1 single would be great for album sales... and they fucked up terribly by releasing TSOTL so close to the album and so far away from the radio play date. Terrible marketing strategy. Both Mucky Fingers and Force Of Nature never made it past demo form which was a major blunder by Noel... A Liam-sung Force Of Nature with huge production would have been very good as apposed to what is now one of my least favorite Oasis songs. I also think Mucky Fingers could have been terrific if it had the attention that these DOYS tracks got, instead of a flat, trebly mess of a demo. Boy With The Blues is the demo with added parts (singers etc)... you can hear there's a world of difference in "the sound" when compared to DOYS, so I'd say it will never see any release aside from the bonus disc and as a b-side to one of these upcoming singles. Too bad... I bag on Liam for writing amateur crap and ruining albums single-handedly but Boy With The Blues is an absolutely terrific song. By the way... what I thought was Stop The Clocks being worked on at The Village in February when I was there wasn't... and I'm pretty sure it's the song you can briefly see the band working on in the DVD documentary... I'm almost positive that's Come On, It's Alright...
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Post by dhamon on Oct 15, 2008 20:19:20 GMT -5
I love TBWTB, its my most played song on itunes.
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Post by nyr401994 on Oct 15, 2008 21:11:23 GMT -5
i don't think it'll happen, to be honest.
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Post by Oasis39 on Oct 15, 2008 21:22:42 GMT -5
I cant believe BWTB was compared to DLBIA. These songs arent even in the same league. BWTB is just an average Oasis tune, where as DBLIA is one of their biggest/most known songs ever. Its one of the best anthems of the 90's, maybe my fav Oasis tune.
Sounds nothing like DLBIA/LAMB
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Post by Shakermaker on Oct 17, 2008 9:21:04 GMT -5
I cant believe BWTB was compared to DLBIA. These songs arent even in the same league. BWTB is just an average Oasis tune, where as DBLIA is one of their biggest/most known songs ever. Its one of the best anthems of the 90's, maybe my fav Oasis tune. Sounds nothing like DLBIA/LAMB Try listen to it again. Now as a musician. Listen well this time. Listen to the structure in the songs, the bridges etc. What's dya mean "the same league"? "the same league"-thing seems to be the new excuse to piss of new Oasis stuff on this forum. Ofcourse, looking at populairity, DLBIA is way bigger ... And i'm not talking about that, about the populairity. I listen to these songs as a musican, and I can see the same structure. It has somehow a same kinda feel ... in that way ... Just because DLBIA went very well in the charts back then, makes TBWTB poor? That's to easy man ...
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Post by MacaRonic on Oct 17, 2008 9:24:30 GMT -5
Listening to BWTB now and I have to say it's good tune. Some of Liam's best lyrics too. It's not a patch on DLBIA though!
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Post by Moorish on Oct 17, 2008 10:26:39 GMT -5
I cant believe BWTB was compared to DLBIA. These songs arent even in the same league. BWTB is just an average Oasis tune, where as DBLIA is one of their biggest/most known songs ever. Its one of the best anthems of the 90's, maybe my fav Oasis tune. Sounds nothing like DLBIA/LAMB Try listen to it again. Now as a musician. Listen well this time. Listen to the structure in the songs, the bridges etc. What's dya mean "the same league"? "the same league"-thing seems to be the new excuse to piss of new Oasis stuff on this forum. Ofcourse, looking at populairity, DLBIA is way bigger ... And i'm not talking about that, about the populairity. I listen to these songs as a musican, and I can see the same structure. Not having that at all - I'm a musician and structure-wise DLBIA takes a great big shit all over BTWB. DLBIA has a decent fucking chorus as well (and BTWB doesn't have a bridge at all - though they should have used what ended up being the chorus as a bridge in the middle).
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Post by Oasis39 on Oct 17, 2008 12:41:23 GMT -5
I am a musician, I have listened to BWTB alteast 25 times, Its not a great song at all.
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