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Post by Robohump on Sept 20, 2008 23:15:23 GMT -5
... if it weren't for 'Ain't Got Nothin'' and Andy and Gem's songs.
This album was 3 songs away from true greatness. Yeah, 'Soldier On' isn't a terrific closer, but neither was 'Married With Children'.
Even if it took another year, Noel should have waited until he had written 3 more great songs to include on this album. Could have been magic, instead of another ho-hum disc.
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Post by caats19 on Sept 20, 2008 23:23:47 GMT -5
yeah, 3 songs dropped an album from one of the greatest ever to "ho-hum".
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Post by Oasis39 on Sept 20, 2008 23:30:29 GMT -5
Get out of hear Robohump, This album is amazing. Better than BHN, weve been waiting for Oasis to put out an album better than BHN for over 10 years and now that time has come. Dont bring it down
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Post by Beady’s Here Now on Sept 20, 2008 23:31:51 GMT -5
I'm actually close to agreeing with Queerhump here. I do like TBWTIL though, so fuck his opinion there. And AGN isnt as bad as the demo. And while TNOR is poor, the guitar solo is ace. So it's not all bad at the end. But include RM and STC instead, hell even WPTWOTWOMS as the closer, and you do indeed have an even better album But breaking the top 3 stranglehold of DM-WTS-BHN is no easy feat, and the fact that this album has edged out BHN speaks volumes. Amazing album! Gets better with every listen. The Turning - holy fuck, so good. So yes, a few track changes could have made this album even better, but I'm not complaining. You ge tthe songs your dealt, and Oasis have played a damn strong hand this time round. Credit to them.  DM-WTSMG-DOYS-BHN-DBTT-SOTSOG-HC That's my ranking, and just look at those albums now.....the first 5 are all pretty damn good, and the last two, while weak - especially HC - have their moments. Oasis have cemented their place in rock history with DOYS.....althought they already accomplished that by 1995 really lol. Fucking amazing band. |
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Post by AbbeyR0ad on Sept 20, 2008 23:33:05 GMT -5
i don't get all the negative shit coming along with this album, it's so musically brilliant i can't believe it. it surprises me that oasis fans aren't pleased with it. it's genius.
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Post by Grodoboldo on Sept 20, 2008 23:34:07 GMT -5
C'mon Man, it is a very good album!!!!
AGN is a merely ok song (I would have let it out) and Soldier On is nothing extraordinary, but the rest of DOYS is great!
Just quit the grumpy attitude and enjoy it.
Oh, and by the way, TBWTL and FD are VERY good and are on the 2nd half...
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Post by Beady’s Here Now on Sept 20, 2008 23:36:15 GMT -5
i don't get all the negative shit coming along with this album, it's so musically brilliant i can't believe it. it surprises me that oasis fans aren't pleased with it. it's genius. There isnt much negativity. Most people love this album. General consensus is that it's slightly better/as good as BHN.....and that's a damn good thing. For me, it just edges out BHN. DOYS-BHN-DBTT are almost all of the same quality. DBTT is more mature, more focused than BHN, but not as fun. DOYS has much better sound than DBTT and is similar to BHN, but is more condescended than their 1997 effort, so it gets the edge for me. Great album. How the fuck can you complain when you have gems like Bag It Up, The Turning, Waiting for the Rapture, The Shock of the Lighting, I'm Outta Time, Falling Down, and To Be Where There's Life..... That's a DAMN STRONG album right there. |
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Post by Robohump on Sept 20, 2008 23:38:36 GMT -5
yeah, 3 songs dropped an album from one of the greatest ever to "ho-hum". 3 songs is more than 25% of the album. Take 'Don't Look Back In Anger', 'Some Might Say' and 'Champagne Supernova' off Morning Glory and you no longer have a classic. |
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Post by Grodoboldo on Sept 20, 2008 23:40:31 GMT -5
And if we're gonna start talking about modifying Oasis albuns, every single one of them could be better (OK, I'm gonna get some cursing over this statement, but that's fine).
Very few of us would miss DD from DM, HN from WTSMG, IHITIK from BHN, PYMWYMI from SOTSOG, LJ from HC, TMOS from DBTT, just to give some examples.
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Post by Beady’s Here Now on Sept 20, 2008 23:43:12 GMT -5
yeah, 3 songs dropped an album from one of the greatest ever to "ho-hum". 3 songs is more than 25% of the album. Take 'Don't Look Back In Anger', 'Some Might Say' and 'Champagne Supernova' off Morning Glory and you no longer have a classic. you're an idiot. you just removed 3 of the best songs from WTSMG, while you remove the 3 WORST from DOYS....hardly a fair comparison. Again, let me reiterate, you're an idiot. |
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Post by Grodoboldo on Sept 20, 2008 23:48:25 GMT -5
If I was to remove the 3 songs I like the least from every Oasis album, What's The Story Morning Glory would be the only one who would lose something too significant...
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Post by Robohump on Sept 20, 2008 23:51:11 GMT -5
And if we're gonna start talking about modifying Oasis albuns, every single one of them could be better (OK, I'm gonna get some cursing over this statement, but that's fine). Very few of us would miss DD from DM, HN from WTSMG, IHITIK from BHN, PYMWYMI from SOTSOG, LJ from HC, TMOS from DBTT, just to give some examples. All of your examples are either already certefied classics or nowhere close to classics. DOYS is the only album since BHN that had greatness within reach. |
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Post by lionsden® on Sept 20, 2008 23:51:35 GMT -5
If I was to remove the 3 songs I like the least from every Oasis album, What's The Story Morning Glory would be the only one who would lose something too significant... Fucking Amen to that! I still to this day think this album is overrated. I do like MG and CS though. The rest is.............. |
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Post by Robohump on Sept 20, 2008 23:52:55 GMT -5
3 songs is more than 25% of the album. Take 'Don't Look Back In Anger', 'Some Might Say' and 'Champagne Supernova' off Morning Glory and you no longer have a classic. you're an idiot. you just removed 3 of the best songs from WTSMG, while you remove the 3 WORST from DOYS....hardly a fair comparison. Again, let me reiterate, you're an idiot. Obviously the 3 worst songs would need to be removed from DOYS to make it a classics, you dumbfuck. You want me to remove the 3 best songs to make it a classic? You can't even understand simple logic. Fucking simpleton.  |
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Post by Robohump on Sept 20, 2008 23:54:36 GMT -5
If I was to remove the 3 songs I like the least from every Oasis album, What's The Story Morning Glory would be the only one who would lose something too significant... Are you insane? You're arguing that Definitely Maybe without 'Live Forever', 'Supersonic', and 'Slide Away' is just as good an album? Yeah, right. |
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Post by Beady’s Here Now on Sept 20, 2008 23:57:02 GMT -5
you're an idiot. you just removed 3 of the best songs from WTSMG, while you remove the 3 WORST from DOYS....hardly a fair comparison. Again, let me reiterate, you're an idiot. Obviously the 3 worst songs would need to be removed from DOYS to make it a classics. You want me to remove the 3 best songs to make it a classic? You can't even understand simple logic. Fucking simpleton. No, you (once again) idiot. My point was that you could remove the 3 worst songs from WTSMG, and it would still be a classic...... DOYS has 8 good to excellent songs, 2 average songs (AGN, SO), and 1 Poor song (TNOR).....but even those 3 weaker songs aren't horrible....and all Oasis albums have their weak tracks.....8 out of 11 strong tracks, how the fuck can you possibly complain? Go play in traffic |
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Post by Grodoboldo on Sept 20, 2008 23:58:20 GMT -5
Robohump, I'm just saying that I get your point, but if you could let it go I think you would be able to enjoy even more the magical time that is the leaking of a brand new Oasis album. And maybe, over time, you may come to enjoy the 2nd half as well. Ok, maybe not AGN...  |
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Post by Grodoboldo on Sept 21, 2008 0:00:05 GMT -5
If I was to remove the 3 songs I like the least from every Oasis album, What's The Story Morning Glory would be the only one who would lose something too significant... Are you insane? You're arguing that Definitely Maybe without 'Live Forever', 'Supersonic', and 'Slide Away' is just as good an album? Yeah, right. the ones I like THE LEAST!!! I don't think that's the case of the songs you pointed out... I'm sying that DM would be just as good without DD, MWC and UITS... |
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Post by Robohump on Sept 21, 2008 0:05:37 GMT -5
Are you insane? You're arguing that Definitely Maybe without 'Live Forever', 'Supersonic', and 'Slide Away' is just as good an album? Yeah, right. the ones I like THE LEAST!!! I don't think that's the case of the songs you pointed out... I'm sying that DM would be just as good without DD, MWC and UITS... Except those 3 songs are LIGHTYEARS ahead of 'Ain't Got Nothin', 'The Nature of Reality' and 'To Be Where There's Life'. Definitely Maybe has no schlock, while DOYS is a full 25% pure crap. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 21, 2008 0:08:07 GMT -5
Fact: Those tunes are on the album.
Just stop bitching about it fore fuck's sake.
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Post by Robohump on Sept 21, 2008 0:08:08 GMT -5
It's as if Noel was writing a Pulitzer Prize winning novel and all of a sudden, halfway through, his kid brother and his 2 goofball buddies barge into the room, steal the book Noel is writing, and finish writing the novel for him.
What was destined to be a Pulitzer Prize winner is reduced to a good novel with a nonsensical ending and a bunch of spelling errors in the second half... relegated to the bargain bins at Wal-Mart.
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Post by Grodoboldo on Sept 21, 2008 0:10:56 GMT -5
the ones I like THE LEAST!!! I don't think that's the case of the songs you pointed out... I'm sying that DM would be just as good without DD, MWC and UITS... Except those 3 songs are LIGHTYEARS ahead of 'Ain't Got Nothin', 'The Nature of Reality' and 'To Be Where There's Life'. Oh, and TBWTL is great, better than SO Definitely Maybe has no schlock, while DOYS is a full 25% pure crap. No shlock? Yeah, right, DD is a fuckin' anthem |
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Post by Robohump on Sept 21, 2008 0:13:15 GMT -5
Except those 3 songs are LIGHTYEARS ahead of 'Ain't Got Nothin', 'The Nature of Reality' and 'To Be Where There's Life'. Oh, and TBWTL is great, better than SO Definitely Maybe has no schlock, while DOYS is a full 25% pure crap. No shlock? Yeah, right, DD is a fuckin' anthem You really wanna compare DD to TNOR??? Ask 100 Oasis fans and 99% of them will listen to DD any day of the week and twice on Sunday over TNOR. And I'm talking *real* Oasis fans, not the kool-aid drinkers who love listening to Liam's farts. |
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Post by Beady’s Here Now on Sept 21, 2008 0:15:13 GMT -5
It's as if Noel was writing a Pulitzer Prize winning novel and all of a sudden, halfway through, his kid brother and his 2 goofball buddies barge into the room, steal the book Noel is writing, and finish writing the novel for him. What was destined to be a Pulitzer Prize winner is reduced to a good novel with a nonsensical ending and a bunch of spelling errors in the second half... relegated to the bargain bins at Wal-Mart. So? Instead of being a 10/10 album, it's an 8 or an 8.5 album.....something I'm personally VERY happy with, and that's all that matters. Critics will like it too - as we've already seen with a few reviews - album of the year, no doubt. Cements the belief in naysayers minds that Oasis are indeed back and DBTT wasn't a fluke, and build EVEN MORE momentum towards their 8th album release (most likely around 2011) Ok, 3 poor songs or so, not the end of the world at all since the rest of the album is MEGA. Homohump, stop making it seem like this album is as bad/worse than HC. Stop making it seem like its a bad album. 3 songs may MAKE an album, but they sure as hell don't break an album. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 21, 2008 0:16:48 GMT -5
No shlock? Yeah, right, DD is a fuckin' anthem You really wanna compare DD to TNOR??? Ask 100 Oasis fans and 99% of them will listen to DD any day of the week and twice on Sunday over TNOR. If you hate both songs, it's easy to choose the shortest one. If you asked any normal Oasis fan, they'll probably say both are shit. We are the few, the proud; the crazy ones that would actually stand up for Digsy's Dinner. |
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