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Post by supersonic1983 on Sept 18, 2008 22:46:04 GMT -5
FACT: They haven't given a performance like that since you joined the band, Gem. Reckon Bonehead could have done that? |
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Post by dearprudence on Sept 18, 2008 23:05:04 GMT -5
nobody is bored of any new songs, gem and andy rock, and robohump made another shit thread
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Post by Deleted on Sept 18, 2008 23:33:35 GMT -5
nobody is bored of any new songs, gem and andy rock, and robohump made another shit thread In other words: Life goes on. I'm sure Bonehead played a huge role in that performance, especially considering I could barely hear him. Also, bring back Tony McCaroll. Obviously he also played a key role. The bottom line is that the band sounded better (both live and in studio) with their original line-up. And it's not even a close call. Listen to the '94 bootlegs from Chicago, Vancouver, etc. Listen to the '95 and '96 stuff. The entire Be Here Now tour. They were on fire. I'll take that band over today's version any day. And Bonehead had nothing to do with that. Face it, Bonehead was just a dude who got really lucky cos he could play a few power chords. Anyone who thinks he's a better guitarist, or member of Oasis, over Gem is off their fucking rocker. |
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Post by Robohump on Sept 18, 2008 23:40:10 GMT -5
nobody is bored of any new songs, gem and andy rock, and robohump made another shit thread In other words: Life goes on. The bottom line is that the band sounded better (both live and in studio) with their original line-up. And it's not even a close call. Listen to the '94 bootlegs from Chicago, Vancouver, etc. Listen to the '95 and '96 stuff. The entire Be Here Now tour. They were on fire. I'll take that band over today's version any day. And Bonehead had nothing to do with that. Face it, Bonehead was just a dude who got really lucky cos he could play a few power chords. Anyone who thinks he's a better guitarist, or member of Oasis, over Gem is off their fucking rocker. Bullshit he had nothing to do with it. Are you saying it's down to simple coincidence that Oasis completely lost their sound when Bonehead and Guigsy left the band? They completely lost what made them special. Totally and completely. You can't replace 3/5th of your band and expect it to sound anywhere close to the same. Bonehead and Guigsy's styles fit in FAR better than Gem and Andy's. |
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Post by rockstar2004 on Sept 18, 2008 23:40:33 GMT -5
no way man! Gem and Andy make the band sound so much better live. Stop living in the past
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Post by Robohump on Sept 18, 2008 23:46:47 GMT -5
FACT: They haven't given a performance like that since you joined the band, Gem. Reckon Bonehead could have done that? Bonehead wasn't the lead guitarist, Noel was. So your point is completely irrelevant... as usual. Technical ability means dick all. If you really cared about technical ability, you would have sacked Liam years ago. The fact is that styles, attitude, comradery, and the overall sound are far more important. It's one of the main reason "supergroups" almost always fail miserably. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 19, 2008 0:10:24 GMT -5
In other words: Life goes on. And Bonehead had nothing to do with that. Face it, Bonehead was just a dude who got really lucky cos he could play a few power chords. Anyone who thinks he's a better guitarist, or member of Oasis, over Gem is off their fucking rocker. Bullshit he had nothing to do with it. Are you saying it's down to simple coincidence that Oasis completely lost their sound when Bonehead and Guigsy left the band? They completely lost what made them special. Totally and completely. You can't replace 3/5th of your band and expect it to sound anywhere close to the same. Bonehead and Guigsy's styles fit in FAR better than Gem and Andy's. They completely lost their sound? You're fucking insane. In fact, I'd say some of their later performances are better then their older. Acquiesce is blindingly good at Wembley '00, Don't Look Back In Anger was loads better cos Noel didn't have to play lead and sing, Some Might Say was fucking great at Finsbury '02. I could go on and on. You're just raising a fuss. Why don't you go dig yourself a nice hole with some bootlegs from 94-97 and sit in it. |
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Post by mimmihopps on Sept 19, 2008 2:14:58 GMT -5
If you mean the new ones, my answer is no cos I haven't heard them yet.
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Post by psj3809 on Sept 19, 2008 3:23:30 GMT -5
Why do the board keep this troll here on the forum ? Just writes constant negative crap just to get a reaction from people (and it works). Quite sad he wastes his time doing that, very odd
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Post by rod on Sept 19, 2008 5:44:51 GMT -5
i'm still not bored of the shock or falling down yet and i listen 2 em everyday
falling down is an instant classic in my eyes
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Post by Rifles on Sept 19, 2008 6:56:58 GMT -5
...and he continues to reel everyone in, hahaha, amazing stuff
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Post by dearprudence on Sept 19, 2008 9:10:33 GMT -5
...and he continues to reel everyone in, hahaha, amazing stuff I think slagging Robohump is part of our therapy to control the never ending wait for DOYS |
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Post by tomkat on Sept 19, 2008 9:23:18 GMT -5
CAN SOMEONE SEND ME SITTIN HERE IN SILENCE ON MY OWN PLZ
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Post by Beatle Matt on Sept 19, 2008 9:58:58 GMT -5
I have a hrda time believing ANYONE would prefer the post Gem/Andy Oasis.
I can MAYBE understand the whole "Zak is better than Alan is better than Chris..." argument or whatever, the math that: "Bonehead + Guigsy > Gem + Andy" is frankly mind-boggling.
Not only do Gem and Andy bring style to the band, their songwriting skills and musicianship are incredible. It's the band they should have been from the start....IMO
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Post by Deleted on Sept 19, 2008 10:05:50 GMT -5
Apologies in advance for the grumpy old man speech which follows...
... but why is everyone so vitriolic over Bonehead and Guigsy?
All of the very greatest Oasis tunes were recorded during their time in the band, no-one would seriously argue with that!
No-one debates that Andy and Gem are better musicians, but there used to be a magic "last gang in town" mentality that is now missing.
Yes, Bonehead and Guigsy only used to play basic chords. But standing in the crowd having those chords smash into you whilst Noel riffed on top of that wall of sound is a far cry from the sound they have today. Liam's voice has been slowly going to shit for years too, which is inevitable as he went full throttle every gig for ten years.
Noel hasn't written a timeless classic for a while now, in my opinion. I want him to!
If you've only gotten into Oasis since 2000-ish (calm down, I'm not slagging anyone off) you may possibly not understand what a magic few years it was in England from 1994-1997. Oasis defined the times, every radio was blasting them out and they were on the cover of newspapers and magazines every day.
It's only cos it was SO GOOD back then that people can get cynical about Oasis now.
Anyway, it may not be your opinion, so fair enough - but don't dismiss Bonehead, Guigsy or Owen Morris because they played a vital role in Oasis.
I hope Dig Out Your Soul is good - just as I hoped Heathen Chemistry and Don't Believe The Truth would be - it will restore my faith in the band, so don't start throwing personal attacks.
Ok, rant over, I'm going to get my pipe and slippers and have an early night.
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Post by supersonic1983 on Sept 19, 2008 10:16:32 GMT -5
Bonehead wasn't the lead guitarist, Noel was. So your point is completely irrelevant... as usual. 'As usual', right. And you'd know all about that, wouldn't you? |
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Post by Oasis39 on Sept 19, 2008 11:00:14 GMT -5
This thread boils down to this. Robohump doesnt know SHIT about music and has never played an instrument. His favorite Oasis songs are from the DM, WTSMG,BHN days, and Bonehead and Guigsy were in Oasis then, So they HAVE to be better than Andy and Gem!
Yeah give me a break. Gem and Andy are pro's at what they do. Bonehead wasnt good at all. Guigsy wasnt bad, but he wasnt creative. Gem and Andy have their own minds in this band. And Gem's amazing guitar playing ability free's Noel up when they play live. It was always so annoying to watch Oasis play DLBIA at Maine Road for instance and Noel would have to play every lead bit, it just made you think, Why cant bonehead just play that bit!!! Well its because Bonehead completly sucked at guitar. Gem IMO may be a better guitar player than Noel himself!
But the band sounds mega better NOW than it ever did before. The only thing that the band is missing now is the young Liam vocals. Besides that, everything else is better
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Post by thuperthonic on Sept 19, 2008 11:05:32 GMT -5
hey robo, gimme your top 10 all time oasis tunes/moments/performances/whatevers. i'm curious...
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Post by lampard on Sept 19, 2008 14:02:06 GMT -5
dude bonehead and guigsy were classic but andy and gem were just as good or more likely better. i see what epiphone100 is saying but that's not the only reason the band changed. noel had a pretty bad 1998 cos he was dealing with the panic attacks and getting over coke and that was the period when he pretty much grew up. he was already in writers block as early as 96.. people shouldn't slag off the newer oasis stuff because if they do they have no right to say that theyre fucking oasis fans.
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Post by Elias on Sept 19, 2008 16:42:10 GMT -5
Just go listen to Barrowlands. Argument killed immediately.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 19, 2008 18:08:37 GMT -5
Just go listen to Barrowlands. Argument killed immediately. I saw them at Manc Apollo a few days before Barrowlands, they were tight and on good form, and Barrowlands was a good performance too, but I'll stand by my opinion. |
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Post by Robohump on Sept 19, 2008 20:40:14 GMT -5
Just go listen to Barrowlands. Argument killed immediately. I saw them at Manc Apollo a few days before Barrowlands, they were tight and on good form, and Barrowlands was a good performance too, but I'll stand by my opinion. As am I. It's blatantly obvious that they aren't half the band they were wene Boner and Guigs were in the band. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 19, 2008 20:58:04 GMT -5
Suck me balls
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Post by adamhannah on Sept 19, 2008 21:17:06 GMT -5
Who wrote the songs robohump? Not Bonehead and Guigsy. You could have had my fucking grandma on rhythm guitar and it would have been brilliant. Gem and andy are great musicians, and Andy was a major part of a great band (Ride) in his own right. Some of their songs are not the best ever, but they're obviously better than Noel's leftovers because he puts them on the albums.
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