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Post by listenup201 on Sept 18, 2008 13:07:16 GMT -5
The new spin magazine hit the newsstands today (kings of Leon on the cover). The Noel interview was quite long but not that great. The questions were just so so and at one pt it gets a little insulting (actual question - why are the words to C supernova, Don’t look back in Anger and The Masterplan so bad???). There are some fun quotes as always but I did not buy the issue and I usually buy everything Oasis related.
The CD gets 3.5 stars (same as Don’t Believe the Truth). The review notes that the first 4 tracks are absolute monsters but the back end of the CD is not good. They slag off I’m Out of Time and Nature of Reality. Now those songs sound fantastic so justice was not served with this review. I found this VERY annoying cause I was hoping for 4 starts or better from the U.S. magazines to cement the Oasis story in the US. So that was a bit of a bummer…
Anyway go check the issue out but the 3.5 stars is just so so considering the expectations I guess...
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Post by Oasis39 on Sept 18, 2008 13:11:07 GMT -5
The new spin magazine hit the newsstands today (kings of Leon on the cover). The Noel interview was quite long but not that great. The questions were just so so and at one pt it gets a little insulting (actual question - why are the words to C supernova, Don’t look back in Anger and The Masterplan so bad???). There are some fun quotes as always but I did not buy the issue and I usually buy everything Oasis related. The CD gets 3.5 stars (same as Don’t Believe the Truth). The review notes that the first 4 tracks are absolute monsters but the back end of the CD is not good. They slag off I’m Out of Time and Nature of Reality. Now those songs sound fantastic so justice was not served with this review. I found this VERY annoying cause I was hoping for 4 starts or better from the U.S. magazines to cement the Oasis story in the US. So that was a bit of a bummer… Anyway go check the issue out but the 3.5 stars is just so so considering the expectations I guess... I could care less if someone says the words to CS are bad, becasue its a damn great song. But bad lyrics in The Masterplan? Are you kidding me!!! And DLBIA, great lyrics if you ask me, Classic Oasis tune....Dont slag on these songs, theyre mega |
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Post by schine on Sept 18, 2008 14:16:53 GMT -5
Don't worry about that.
A review that consider TSOTL so beautiful is a bad review.
I love that song as a fan, but judging the composition is not a great song.
I think FD is a lot better.
I hope Nature of Reality will be a very good song as seems.
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Post by lampard on Sept 18, 2008 15:42:15 GMT -5
look if americans are saying that even some of the songs on the album are top then im happy with that. oasis' time with the american press is over.. the only thing the american press cares about is liam and noels squabbling. the only way oasis are going to break america is if:
1. people get mad fer it (again) all over the world and america realises they're the loners
2. its a monsterly catchy album
3. it garners huge critical acclaim.
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Post by Bloomfield on Sept 18, 2008 16:01:18 GMT -5
Well, being an Oasis fan since the Supersonic single in early 1994 and trying to be impartial, I'd have to say that by the 40 second clips, the first four tracks do sound like monsters and the rest of the CD sounds a little less exciting... of note with regard to the others, I'm Outta Time sounds like a nice ballad and Falling Down is a strong album track. I guess it's refreshing to hear the direction of To Be Where There's Life and we still don't know what we're getting with The Nature Of Reality or High Horse Lady (the busker versions sound cool actually). Ain't Got Nothin' is poop and Soldier On to this point is my biggest disappointment by far; just a boring "Better Man" type song with ahhhs where there should be a written part. We'll see when we get the whole thing in our stereos.
I'm definitely most excited about The Turning, and I love the Liam version's rocking rhythm and sneer, as opposed to the Force of Nature shuffle on the Noel version.
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Post by adamhannah on Sept 18, 2008 20:15:34 GMT -5
3.5 is alright, ill take that anyday
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Post by checkwithmemum on Sept 18, 2008 20:24:54 GMT -5
3.5 Stars... THAT’S NEARLY 4!! (and that’s almost perfect)
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Post by start at the end on Sept 18, 2008 20:34:15 GMT -5
Number 1: DBTT got an A- from Spin magazine. They only recently introduced a "star" system.
2. Their perfect score is 5 stars. Just for comparison, Viva La Vida garnered 4 1/2.
I would have liked at least 4, but oh well. I've always looked at a 3 star rating on a 5 star scale to say "good", but not "great".
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Post by start at the end on Sept 18, 2008 20:43:45 GMT -5
By the way, let me say that I'm considerably disappointed by this. And don't bother wasting your time telling me how I shouldn't be concerned with "reviews".
Spin has always shown a lot of respect for Oasis, and while a 3 1/2 star review is ok, I'd be willing to bet that there's a good chance they were actually let down a bit by it (yes, THEY...trust me, Spin's reviews are really "editorial like" in that the overall consensus dictates the score and a single person composes the review).
Just bummed a bit, that's all.
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Post by Oasis39 on Sept 18, 2008 20:46:29 GMT -5
Take it easy its just a review
And Weve heard/seen lots of really good reviews so far. And the clips sounded fantastic. Who cares what a magazine thinks about an album, I think we (Oasis fans) are going to really like it
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Post by start at the end on Sept 18, 2008 20:55:14 GMT -5
It appears you're from Penn, so maybe you just feel differently than me for whatever reason. But, Oasis enjoy (and have enjoyed) significant critical acclaim in the UK, even if a couple of the last few albums have been less than spectacular.
Over here, I feel they've never got their proper dues, and therefore I'm always anxious for very positive critical reception here in the US. I was very pleased with Spins A- review of DBTT for two reasons: 1. I of course thought it deserved it, and 2. I felt that the US was finally catching onto what the balance of the free world already knew: that Oasis is a top-flight rock band capable of dueling it out with the best the world could offer up.
Anything less than that now just makes me feel that it's hopeless.
I like you, try not to make a big deal out of it, but I have to admit it really bothers me, and I'm better off just dealing with it than denying it.
sorry, rant over.
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Post by Oasis39 on Sept 18, 2008 20:58:32 GMT -5
I understand what your sayin, but What im saying to you is dont let a magazine review of an album get you upset or make you less exciited for an album. I cant wait for this album, I think it sounds great, From what Ive heard, It could be better than Be Here Now, and maybe be the 3rd best album they have released.
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Post by start at the end on Sept 18, 2008 21:01:01 GMT -5
by the way, perhaps you're confusing Spin with that rag Rolling Stone...RS gave DBTT 3 1/2 stars.
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Post by Oasis39 on Sept 18, 2008 21:02:49 GMT -5
3.5 stars isnt bad if you ask me, its about average
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Post by caats19 on Sept 18, 2008 21:08:15 GMT -5
fuck average
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Post by start at the end on Sept 18, 2008 21:08:29 GMT -5
I understand what your sayin, but What im saying to you is dont let a magazine review of an album get you upset or make you less exciited for an album. I cant wait for this album, I think it sounds great, From what Ive heard, It could be better than Be Here Now, and maybe be the 3rd best album they have released. Oh no, make no mistake about it, my hopes are not dampered in the least. I agree with you that this could very well be their best in a decade. I guess it's kind of like being a parent to me. Oasis obviously are not wildly popular over here, so I kind of feel like they're my "baby" so to speak, and that any praise they receive kinda bounces off me a bit. A little gay, I know. I just feel they're underappreciated and I know they'll get theirs eventually. Either way, no review(s) (positive, negative, or indifferent) are going to affect my interpretation of if anyway. |
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Post by Oasis39 on Sept 18, 2008 21:10:47 GMT -5
I totally see what your sayin, im sorta like you. I live here in the states too, Oasis doesnt get the respect they deserve. Although I have gotten a boat load of my friends really really into Oasis. When people take the time to listen to them, they like them. They were not promoted here good, ever. It bugs me that theyre not bigger here too, but they are still a big band here if you know what I mean.
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Post by caats19 on Sept 18, 2008 21:13:01 GMT -5
i don't care if they're big or not. easier to get tickets to a show. and they sell out anyway.
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Post by Oasis39 on Sept 18, 2008 21:13:44 GMT -5
right on caats
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Post by Deleted on Sept 18, 2008 22:03:13 GMT -5
Time to cancel that pre-order.
Oasis are over, give up the dream.
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Post by start at the end on Sept 19, 2008 7:57:09 GMT -5
Time to cancel that pre-order. Oasis are over, give up the dream. yeah, that's exactly what I'm saying. |
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Post by start at the end on Sept 19, 2008 9:49:49 GMT -5
On a positive note, I was dicking around on their website (Spin), and it doesn't appear that they've given anything better than a 3 1/2 star review for some time now, and L. Buckinghams new one got a 3 star critique and it's in their "essential albums" area...ditto for Buckcherry at 3 1/2, so go figure.
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Post by NoelandMeMay29 on Sept 19, 2008 11:48:46 GMT -5
The sad thing is, is that it's usually one person that does a review. Probably some 27 year old from the Village that sort of remembers 'Wonderwall' when they were in grade school. As someone almost 40, what gives anyone (usually ten years or more younger than me) to full on (no pun intended) credentials to properly review an album? All reviews that are printed should be an average of say 15-20 reviewers, especially for a large magazine.
If I worked at SPIN and they gave me Parklife to review when I was 26, I would have given it a 1.5 out of 5 b/c I just don't like it or Blur that much and I would be slammed by Blur fans.
Can anyone tell me if the reviews that are written in magazines are an average score of a staff or is it one person? If it really is one sole reviewer at Q, NME, Rolling Stone, SPIN etc., then what's the point reading it whether it's a good review or not?
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Post by sonicidler on Sept 19, 2008 14:22:22 GMT -5
A 3.5 is a thumbs up. It's not a bad review
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Post by start at the end on Sept 19, 2008 14:24:09 GMT -5
The sad thing is, is that it's usually one person that does a review. Probably some 27 year old from the Village that sort of remembers 'Wonderwall' when they were in grade school. As someone almost 40, what gives anyone (usually ten years or more younger than me) to full on (no pun intended) credentials to properly review an album? All reviews that are printed should be an average of say 15-20 reviewers, especially for a large magazine. If I worked at SPIN and they gave me Parklife to review when I was 26, I would have given it a 1.5 out of 5 b/c I just don't like it or Blur that much and I would be slammed by Blur fans. Can anyone tell me if the reviews that are written in magazines are an average score of a staff or is it one person? If it really is one sole reviewer at Q, NME, Rolling Stone, SPIN etc., then what's the point reading it whether it's a good review or not? I already gave you the answer above, for Spin at least. As for the others, I can safely tell you that no, they generally don't hand these major releases to some 25 year-old 3 years out of college and say "Here you go, we'll give you carte blanche to say whatever you think and it'll go right in, no questions asked." Generally the reviews are EDITORIALS, in that ONE person composes a review that reflects the overall consesus of a board or group of others. |
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