NoelsNotebook
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Post by NoelsNotebook on Aug 16, 2008 2:00:24 GMT -5
Hey, just wondering if we will be getting bootlegs of these new oasis gigs e.g. theres one in about ten days or so. If so whats the process? who records them and therefore what will the quality be? How soon will they be available after the gig itself?
Sorry for all the questions but as im sure most of you are im a massive bootleg fan and am really dying to hear oasis live and maybe even get a live version of SOTL and something else off the new record. Any answers or speculations on this sorta stuff? Cheers
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Post by Deleted on Aug 16, 2008 2:05:10 GMT -5
I don't think there are any well known Oasis bootlegers, but at least some of the shows in upcoming NA dates are guaranteed to be taped.
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Post by shoofee on Aug 16, 2008 2:35:19 GMT -5
None of your questions can be answered definitively. Its almost assured that someone will tape something, as for when they're available for download is another story. Maybe the morning after or later in the night after the gig, maybe weeks after, maybe never. It completely depends on when the recorder has the time to do it or if they plan on sharing it wide in the first place.
Almost every Oasis gig since 1994 has been recorded, either amateur (audience recordings) or professionally for broadcast purposes. There are literally only a handful per tour that don't get recorded. More are recorded than are not, sometimes a 2:1 margin per particular tour in favor of those that are recorded.
Who records them? The fans! People at the gigs. Look into bootlegging if it interests you. Its a huge subculture of fans of various bands that take recording devices into venues and records them. Just google "how do I bootleg a show?" and likely something will come up. You can check out forums like The Traders Den (google it) and read their Technobabble forum for specifics on recording techniques and what to use. Its a risk anytime these people take devices into the show, they can be taken away or you can be thrown out.
Quality varies from complete shit to ok for audience, go into Sound and Vision and download an audience recorded bootleg to get an idea. I personally can't stand audience recordings, some people love them, I find them painful to listen to. Im dying for a leak of new material, but I will avoid audience recordings until the album leaks.
There is a bright spot to this upcoming one US gig/Canadian tour though. Ryan Adams is the opener. Regardless of your opinion on him, he allows his fans to patch into his soundboard a lot of the time and get extremely high quality recordings. However, Oasis have rarely, if ever allowed that (most Oasis soundboards are not soundboards at all, but broadcast recordings or unreleased professionally recorded material thats been leaked), but its a slim chance that someone can slip one in there and we get a super quality (meaning perfect) recording out of this tour, but considering that they dont share sound people (Ryan has his own people running his sound at shows, as Oasis has their own) its probably a slim to none chance, but at least there is a chance.
I also would think that some place like Toronto may have a radio broadcast, but again this is just a guess. If it is to happen I imagine we'd hear of plans for this sometime soon (within a week of a particular show), the problem there is that any new material probably wouldnt be broadcast.
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Post by shoofee on Aug 16, 2008 2:36:20 GMT -5
I don't think there are any well known Oasis bootlegers, but at least some of the shows in upcoming NA dates are guaranteed to be taped. There are a number of well known Oasis tapers. I can think of at least 5 without blinking. If you follow that side of the band at all (bootleg collecting) theres a lot of the same names that record a lot of shows in a specific area. Theres one guy whos almost assured to record an Irish gig, while there are the same people who typically get the shows in the south of England. These people also travel to many shows simply just to record.
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Post by mahsteve on Aug 16, 2008 15:45:34 GMT -5
i wonder if the band will make some live tracks avaliable through the website for the fans.
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costello
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Post by costello on Aug 16, 2008 15:58:25 GMT -5
i wonder if the band will make some live tracks avaliable through the website for the fans. Yup, the band and his management will probably offer us the tracks.. if we download them for 0,99 $
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Post by shoofee on Aug 16, 2008 21:24:34 GMT -5
i wonder if the band will make some live tracks avaliable through the website for the fans. They've never done it before, so it would be a new thing, I wouldnt bet on it but it'd be nice because then the quality would be guaranteed to be great.
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Post by nyr401994 on Aug 16, 2008 22:33:40 GMT -5
i wonder if the band will make some live tracks avaliable through the website for the fans. Yup, the band and his management will probably offer us the tracks.. if we download them for 0,99 $ pearl jam does that. they just record straight from the soundboard.
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Post by kenneth on Aug 18, 2008 10:59:56 GMT -5
I suspect that the intimate show where they previewed tracks from Dig Out Your Soul, if it's ever broadcast, then that's a strong candidate to be a nice silverpressed bootleg.
You can be sure that The Godfather Records will release a couple of really nice bootleg from the new tour.
In the meantime, let me suggest a couple for you:
- Dreams Is A Record Machine
- Two Spoons And A Box Of Cheerios
Both is fantastic, and among them contains the likes of the full Zanzibar gig, Within You, Without You, the leaked Don't Believe The Truth sessions, Stop The Clocks recording process, Noels demos, and much much more. Highly recommended!!!
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Post by shoofee on Aug 19, 2008 22:08:43 GMT -5
full Zanzibar gig, the leaked Don't Believe The Truth sessions All of which can be gotten at a much higher quality from downloading the original source files. The Zanzibar gigs ONLY source is 128kpbs MP3s. There are two sources from the DBTT sessions now, but when these bootlegs were made, the only source was 128kpbs M4A files. The only source of that material did not release MP3 until well after that. To press a CD, these files would have to be transcoded to wav to be burnt and then pressed. Those silver pressed boots are of inferior sound quality to what the source files are actually encoded at. As for the current tour: The first really good bootleg will be the Einslive gig in Cologne, unless of course the rehearsal is aired before that, but as of right now the first good bootleg will come from this: www.einslive.de/termine/events/2008/vorberichte/09/radiokonzertoasis.jspThat is unless someone gets a patch into one of the gigs starting next week or there is a radio broadcast of one of them, but that is probably unlikely.
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