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Post by thegodfather on Aug 8, 2008 15:00:02 GMT -5
Completely disagree with the topic below bashing the idea of a Noel solo album at some point in time. I'm beginning to think that as Noel gets older, this idea is more and more likely, especially since he has felt the responsibility to carry the band in one way or another lyrically for such a long time.
In fact, at some point, I may think it might even be healthy for Noel to take off an album from Oasis (I know everyone will hate this opinion but whatever) so he can "re-charge his battery" and perhaps do a solo album full of the kinds of ballads of his that never seem to make it on Oasis LPs anymore, but only as B-sides in favor of deferring to an Andy, Liam or Gem track on the album that is markedly inferior.
If Noel were to do a solo album, and we were just going on unreleased tracks we know of or tracks rumored to be included in the future, the album could look like:
Slow (which Noel said would be on a solo album at some point)
Stop The Clocks
IWLIAD(IMRM)
Let There Be Love ('It's a Crime' demo version)
(Whatever the "If There's a God" song is that everyone here has a hard-on for)
Let It Come Down Over Me
The Magic Can't Be Right
And more importantly, a tour setlist could easily include a rotating mix of the following:
Lord Don't Slow Me Down
Wonderwall
DLBIA
The Masterplan
Where Did It All Go Wrong?
The Importance of Being Idle
Idler's Dream
Sunday Morning Call
Shout It Out Loud
Step Out
Sad Song
Sittin' Here in Silence (On My Own)
You've Got the Heart (Of a Star)
Mucky Fingers
Little By Little
Full On
Listen Up (sung by Liam, I know, but Noel wrote it and can sing it easily)
Rockin' Chair (Ditto)
Fade In/Out (Ditto)
Carry Us All
Cast No Shadow
She's Electric
It's Better, People
Cigarrettes In Hell
Half The World Away
Talk Tonight
Waiting for the Rapture
Falling Down
A setlist like that would not only help focus the spotlight on the musical abilities and often overlooked vocal abilities (overlooked by the mainstream press that is) of Noel, but it would also reinvigorate the interest of many Oasis songs of all kinds, old and new alike, specifically some stellar B-sides.
Meanwhile, it would force the band to put together an album without Noel, leaning much more on each other (about 4 songs apiece from Liam, Andy, Gem; all very capable songwriters) and possibly building more cohesion as a band. Liam might feel more comfortable in bringing out back some BHN tunes for the tour, choosing "Boy with the Blues" as the debut single, as well as possibly reconciling with Alan White or even Bonehead just for one tour w/o Noel. I think not having Noel dominate things could actually, at least for one album, make an album process for the band more efficient and allow everyone to progress more individually (or what has collectively become known in certain American sportswriting circles as "The Ewing Theory", whereas the sudden departure of a longtime dominating presence on a team allows the team to surprisingly develop more chemistry and function more efficiently). It would also force Liam to finish some of the songs he has lying around that Noel says are great but only about halfway done.
Anyways, I'm sure people will heavily bash this opinion, but I'd only suggest it as a good idea for the band contingent upon Noel's return after that album and tour, whereby he'd have a different, more refreshed perspective and hopefully an even better chemistry with the rest of the members. I'd prefer the band save IWLIAD(IMRM) as a lead single for some future LP and not waste it as a B-side on DOYS, so maybe by that time Noel won't consider it a B-side anymore and perhaps it can bookend an LP with STC just like Noel said a year or two ago about the structure of the current album.
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Post by eva on Aug 8, 2008 15:02:29 GMT -5
A new thread about the same topic. necessary? no
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Post by Beady’s Here Now on Aug 8, 2008 15:05:07 GMT -5
Jesus. H. Fucking. Christ. And I thought I wrote long posts
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Post by Noel Westerberg on Aug 8, 2008 15:06:52 GMT -5
A new thread about the same topic. necessary? no Cheeky lass...  |
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Post by ugottahavefun on Aug 8, 2008 15:10:34 GMT -5
quite necessary old chum eh wot wot!
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Post by putthisin ® on Aug 8, 2008 15:11:35 GMT -5
if noel decides to go solo that means that the band decided to break up
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Post by psufan43 on Aug 8, 2008 15:22:22 GMT -5
if noel takes and album off then it is not an oasis album. Just like it would not be one if liam takes and and album off.
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Post by Instant Karma on Aug 8, 2008 15:52:43 GMT -5
There's no chance of this happening like. if noel decides to go solo that means that the band decided to break up Why would the band have to break up? |
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Post by ellogovner on Aug 8, 2008 16:04:00 GMT -5
The problem is not what to do with the band if noel does a solo thing.
The problem is viewing oasis as this little box where only certain types of songs fit. Essentially setting up a personal roadblock to creativity.
The beatles were able to write the songs they wanted, however different musically, and record them on a beatles record. This idea that a song is not oasis enough to be on an oasis album is silly, formulaic and limiting musically. All those songs you mentioned could go on any oasis album. If liam cant sing them fine, let noel sing them. Every beatle sang.
I cant for the life of me figure out how a band like the bealtes or many bands who recorded some 30 years ago, took more risks, were more creative and had less rules applied to them than bands today. Why are we going backwards in terms of creativity?
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Post by Instant Karma on Aug 8, 2008 16:17:38 GMT -5
^ I think Oasis are scared to do anything 'to far' out of their comfort zone but I completely see where your comeing from.
Wasn't the idea behind The Beatles - Sgt. Peppers to create a new fictional band where they could be completely different? Maybe Oasis could get out of their comfort zone by doing something similar, make a record under another name and go mad then if it fails they just go back to Oasis and hope everyone forgets about it! and if it's a success then it's another nod to the Beatles and they will have freed themselves from their Oasisness!!! bit of a far out idea which will probably never happen but still!
Also I guess we all love Oasis for what they are anyway and whereas they don't push the boundries to any extremes - they still manage to be cool as fuck
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Post by The Boy Without the Blues on Aug 8, 2008 16:21:10 GMT -5
Makes no sense... you made a huge list of oasis songs... that would be like the acoustic tour, but perhaps with guitars... and the demos you said that could be released in his album were all demoed by the band which means Noel wouldn't use them in a solo album... maybe that Slow...
I agree that it would be interesting but i rather to have more oasis albuns, it's just impossible noel alone sounding batter than the whole band...
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Post by puretone on Aug 8, 2008 16:26:56 GMT -5
The problem is not what to do with the band if noel does a solo thing. The problem is viewing oasis as this little box where only certain types of songs fit. Essentially setting up a personal roadblock to creativity. The beatles were able to write the songs they wanted, however different musically, and record them on a beatles record. This idea that a song is not oasis enough to be on an oasis album is silly, formulaic and limiting musically. All those songs you mentioned could go on any oasis album. If liam cant sing them fine, let noel sing them. Every beatle sang. I cant for the life of me figure out how a band like the bealtes or many bands who recorded some 30 years ago, took more risks, were more creative and had less rules applied to them than bands today. Why are we going backwards in terms of creativity? Thats the truth. All the tunes written from the rest of the lads end up with the Oasis sound on them anyway. Its like when Liam wrote little James he said the band and all that rearranged everything and added new bits to it and all that shit. All he basically came up with was the lyrics and melody. Granted it was a shit tune but still everybody has input on the songs whoever writes them when it comes to the time to finish them. I'd still love an Oasis album with nothing but Noel songs cause he at his best is better than the other 3 put together at there best song writing wise but unfortunately long gone are the days when Noel had a masterplan and Acquiesce to spare. All the rest of the guys have shown they can write a tune to and by the sounds of things there best is yet to come. |
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Post by thegodfather on Aug 8, 2008 19:42:05 GMT -5
Jesus. H. Fucking. Christ. And I thought I wrote long posts Hahahaahahahaahahahahahaahahahagofuckyourself I'm a writer anyway, so if you don't have anything worthwhile to counter with, then go get stuffed. And for those wondering how Noel solo would be a different vibe than Oasis itself, I lifted this from one of Mr. Monobrow's pages: Noel was asked if there really was a song called 'Slow' which he wrote. "Yes. And it's very slow. And it will probably be on a solo record that I plan to do in the near future. Originally, it was written for Oasis, but I don't think it's an Oasis song. It's a bit too much of a ballad, really, which we're trying to get away from." |
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Post by wheatmanny on Aug 8, 2008 21:58:40 GMT -5
If he does put out a solo album I'd be willing to bet most those songs don't even make it. Look at the suspected playlists for Dig Out Your Soul and look what we ended up with.
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Post by idledreamer on Aug 9, 2008 2:49:55 GMT -5
sure, a noel solo-tour could/would work, as long as they were 'acoustic-type' shows held in intimate settings like he did w/ gem for the ldsmd premieres... that gig broadcast on 102.1 the edge was BRILLIANT.
a noel solo-albu,m however? i dunno, personally still kind of split on that one, not that there wouldn't be quality stuff on it, but i imagine it would be all slow, trippy-acoustic type-tunes... at this stage of the game noel might want to get too experimental, prolly not oasis-like at all... as a whole might make the record drag on a bit, but like i said i bet there would be a few nice ones on there that would really standout as well...
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Post by Moorish on Aug 9, 2008 3:15:46 GMT -5
This entire post is fanboy wishful thinking. The setlist especially.
And, if Noel DID do a solo album, what makes you think he would let Oasis make an album without him while he did it? No chance.
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Post by retroparty on Aug 9, 2008 5:46:38 GMT -5
Noels songs aren't as good as they were 10 years ago and I think he would struggle to get 11 decent songs. Having just his voice on 1 whole album would be very boring. He relies on Liam for most of his songs. The only way he could make 11 decent songs with him on vocals would be if they were all acoustic and 99% of acoustic songs are shithouse.
I hope he sticks to Oasis for the rest of career I'd hate to see him go solo.
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Post by PsychedelicElvis on Aug 9, 2008 6:52:13 GMT -5
I'd like to see a noel solo album coicide with an liam penned oasis album. I wanna hear both of them
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Post by Beady’s Here Now on Aug 9, 2008 7:02:34 GMT -5
Noel and Liam complement each other. Liam needs Noel's songs, and Noel needs Liam's voice. Now yes, Noel's voice is technically better than Liam's, but Noel lacks the energy in songs (while Liam lacks the emotion - compared to Noel any way). Noel's hypothetical solo career would be enough of a success, even more than Ian Brown I feel, but he's better off staying and contributing to Oasis.
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Post by custodian on Aug 9, 2008 7:32:45 GMT -5
Only way I'd want a Noel solo situation would be if he released a mini-album or a couple of EPs inbetween Oasis albums as nice stop-gaps, but not a full-blown solo career, he needs to focus on Oasis.
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Post by Instant Karma on Aug 9, 2008 7:39:57 GMT -5
You know, I was convinced this would happen and soon at that but I have to be honest, the more I've thought about it and read what's been posted here, the more I'm doubting it. If we are all being totally honest, Noel has his moments but on the whole he's not an excellent song writer. He told the other band members they would have to start contributing songs because he was out of ideas, - if he had what it takes to go solo then really he should have a shit load of ideas shouldn't he?
Meh, I'm just not so sure anymore. Maybe he will for the sake of his ego but I'm starting to think that it's more likely that he wouldn't risk it.
I'd like to see Liam do more colabarations though, that death in vegas track is great.
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Post by youvegottohide on Aug 9, 2008 7:44:11 GMT -5
Noel has his moments but on the whole he's not an excellent song writer. GTFO |
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Post by Instant Karma on Aug 9, 2008 8:37:52 GMT -5
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Post by cloudburster on Aug 10, 2008 13:24:22 GMT -5
He could easily take a year out to do it. Thom Yorke did it and Radiohead are still going strong
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Post by baresolid on Aug 10, 2008 14:01:22 GMT -5
I would be very interested in the prospect.
I would also be interested in a Liam-led Oasis album, with Noel taking the time out. However, only if it would be good... I'd hate for them to fuck up and have to disown the album. But if it was great then it could be hailed as a great triumph. Safe option is to have Noel do a solo album between Oasis albums I think.
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