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Post by Linnhe on Aug 12, 2008 4:04:05 GMT -5
Anyway... back to the shell suits..... they were highly inflamable
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Post by Robohump on Aug 12, 2008 4:48:35 GMT -5
You're born gay - whoever brought up the genes is correct (too lazy to scroll back a few pages). It's all due to the X and Y chromsomes I believe. You believe wrong. X and Y chromosomes determine if you are male or female... IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH BEING GAY. Females have XX, while males have XY.
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Post by mrmonkey on Aug 12, 2008 4:53:19 GMT -5
You're born gay - whoever brought up the genes is correct (too lazy to scroll back a few pages). It's all due to the X and Y chromsomes I believe. You believe wrong. X and Y chromosomes determine if you are male or female... IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH BEING GAY. Females have XX, while males have XY. doos that mean that the coolplay alboom XY was only for the boyz? are coolplay gay noow?
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Post by Soldier Ron on Aug 12, 2008 7:17:53 GMT -5
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Post by Beady’s Here Now on Aug 12, 2008 7:31:41 GMT -5
You're born gay - whoever brought up the genes is correct (too lazy to scroll back a few pages). It's all due to the X and Y chromsomes I believe. You believe wrong. X and Y chromosomes determine if you are male or female... IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH BEING GAY. Females have XX, while males have XY. Someone failed biology..... Without even reading the below, you could have figured it out. Since X and Y Chromosomes are responsible for determining gender, then it's not exactly hard to see the link to how alterations could affect sexuality. -------------- Men may be homosexual because of their mother's genes. Scientists from the University of California at Los Angeles have found that the genetics of mothers who have multiple gay sons act differently than those of other women, reports HealthDay News. Basically, it works like this: Every woman carries two X chromosomes, even though they only require one of them. So the human body routinely inactivates one of those X chromosomes at random. Normally, what happens is half of the X chromosomes go one way, while the second half go the other way. "It's like flipping a coin," study co-author Sven Bocklandt told HealthDay News. "If you look at a woman in any given (bodily) tissue, you'd expect about half of the cells to inactivate one X, and half would inactivate the other." In this study of 97 mothers of gay sons and 103 mothers who did not have gay sons, 25 percent of the 44 women who had more than one gay son also processed their X chromosomes differently than normal. "When we looked at women who have gay kids, in those with more than one gay son, we saw a quarter of them inactivate the same X in virtually every cell we checked," Bocklandt explained to HealthDay News. "That's extremely unusual." Only 4 percent of the moms whose sons were not gay inactivated the chromosome in this way, as did 13 percent of the mothers who had just one gay son. Bocklandt said this phenomenon is typically seen only in families with major genetic irregularities. He said the research "confirms that there is a strong genetic basis for sexual orientation, and that for some gay men, genes on the X chromosome are involved."-------------- Well done.
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Post by Robohump on Aug 12, 2008 7:50:05 GMT -5
You believe wrong. X and Y chromosomes determine if you are male or female... IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH BEING GAY. Females have XX, while males have XY. Someone failed biology..... Without even reading the below, you could have figured it out. Since X and Y Chromosomes are responsible for determining gender, then it's not exactly hard to see the link to how alterations could affect sexuality. -------------- Men may be homosexual because of their mother's genes. Scientists from the University of California at Los Angeles have found that the genetics of mothers who have multiple gay sons act differently than those of other women, reports HealthDay News. Basically, it works like this: Every woman carries two X chromosomes, even though they only require one of them. So the human body routinely inactivates one of those X chromosomes at random. Normally, what happens is half of the X chromosomes go one way, while the second half go the other way. "It's like flipping a coin," study co-author Sven Bocklandt told HealthDay News. "If you look at a woman in any given (bodily) tissue, you'd expect about half of the cells to inactivate one X, and half would inactivate the other." In this study of 97 mothers of gay sons and 103 mothers who did not have gay sons, 25 percent of the 44 women who had more than one gay son also processed their X chromosomes differently than normal. "When we looked at women who have gay kids, in those with more than one gay son, we saw a quarter of them inactivate the same X in virtually every cell we checked," Bocklandt explained to HealthDay News. "That's extremely unusual." Only 4 percent of the moms whose sons were not gay inactivated the chromosome in this way, as did 13 percent of the mothers who had just one gay son. Bocklandt said this phenomenon is typically seen only in families with major genetic irregularities. He said the research "confirms that there is a strong genetic basis for sexual orientation, and that for some gay men, genes on the X chromosome are involved."-------------- Well done. Are you a fucking dunce? This is ONE fucking study from ONE university that MAY point to a POSSIBLE genetic basis for the homosexuality of SOME men. According to your own cited study 75 PERCENT OF MOTHERS with MULTIPLE GAY SONS processed the X chromosome NORMALLY. Funny how they don't give a figure for mothers with ONE GAY SON?? Probably because that percentage is ZERO. So even if we take this ONE study as established scientific fact (which it is not, you moron) that means that is 75 PERCENT OF CASES THERE IS NO GENETIC BASIS.
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Post by Robohump on Aug 12, 2008 7:55:18 GMT -5
From The American Psychological Association What causes a person to have a particular sexual orientation?There is no consensus among scientists about the exact reasons that an individual develops a heterosexual, bisexual, gay, or lesbian orientation. Although much research has examined the possible genetic, hormonal, developmental, social, and cultural influences on sexual orientation, no findings have emerged that permit scientists to conclude that sexual orientation is determined by any particular factor or factors. Many think that nature and nurture both play complex roles; most people experience little or no sense of choice about their sexual orientation. www.apa.org/topics/sorientation.html#whatcauses
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Post by eva on Aug 12, 2008 8:03:58 GMT -5
ok science nuts, stop googling studies to try to prove something that no one cares about and get back to the original topic
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Post by Beady’s Here Now on Aug 12, 2008 8:04:08 GMT -5
Someone failed biology..... Without even reading the below, you could have figured it out. Since X and Y Chromosomes are responsible for determining gender, then it's not exactly hard to see the link to how alterations could affect sexuality. -------------- Men may be homosexual because of their mother's genes. Scientists from the University of California at Los Angeles have found that the genetics of mothers who have multiple gay sons act differently than those of other women, reports HealthDay News. Basically, it works like this: Every woman carries two X chromosomes, even though they only require one of them. So the human body routinely inactivates one of those X chromosomes at random. Normally, what happens is half of the X chromosomes go one way, while the second half go the other way. "It's like flipping a coin," study co-author Sven Bocklandt told HealthDay News. "If you look at a woman in any given (bodily) tissue, you'd expect about half of the cells to inactivate one X, and half would inactivate the other." In this study of 97 mothers of gay sons and 103 mothers who did not have gay sons, 25 percent of the 44 women who had more than one gay son also processed their X chromosomes differently than normal. "When we looked at women who have gay kids, in those with more than one gay son, we saw a quarter of them inactivate the same X in virtually every cell we checked," Bocklandt explained to HealthDay News. "That's extremely unusual." Only 4 percent of the moms whose sons were not gay inactivated the chromosome in this way, as did 13 percent of the mothers who had just one gay son. Bocklandt said this phenomenon is typically seen only in families with major genetic irregularities. He said the research "confirms that there is a strong genetic basis for sexual orientation, and that for some gay men, genes on the X chromosome are involved."-------------- Well done. Are you a fucking dunce? This is ONE fucking study from ONE university that MAY point to a POSSIBLE genetic basis for the homosexuality of SOME men. According to your own cited study 75 PERCENT OF MOTHERS with MULTIPLE GAY SONS processed the X chromosome NORMALLY. Funny how they don't give a figure for mothers with ONE GAY SON?? Probably because that percentage is ZERO. So even if we take this ONE study as established scientific fact (which it is not, you moron) that means that is 75 PERCENT OF CASES THERE IS NO GENETIC BASIS. It counters your theory that "chromosomes have NOTHING to do with it." Dumb ass
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Post by checkwithmemum on Aug 12, 2008 8:15:31 GMT -5
what happened to the Robohump that was going to change. Guess he fucked off and we got this old vagina back Yet he is still miles better than L4E maybe someone should do a study into the brain and realise this sexual preference thing is (Probably) All In The Mind.
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Post by Beady’s Here Now on Aug 12, 2008 8:21:47 GMT -5
what happened to the Robohump that was going to change. Guess he fucked off and we got this old vagina back Yet he is still miles better than L4E maybe someone should do a study into the brain and realise this sexual preference thing is (Probably) All In The Mind. Nah, it's The Force of Nature
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Post by checkwithmemum on Aug 12, 2008 8:56:30 GMT -5
what happened to the Robohump that was going to change. Guess he fucked off and we got this old vagina back Yet he is still miles better than L4E maybe someone should do a study into the brain and realise this sexual preference thing is (Probably) All In The Mind. Nah, it's The Force of Nature Nah they are Born on a Different Cloud
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Post by Moorish on Aug 12, 2008 9:13:58 GMT -5
Are you a fucking dunce? This is ONE fucking study from ONE university that MAY point to a POSSIBLE genetic basis for the homosexuality of SOME men. According to your own cited study 75 PERCENT OF MOTHERS with MULTIPLE GAY SONS processed the X chromosome NORMALLY. Funny how they don't give a figure for mothers with ONE GAY SON?? Probably because that percentage is ZERO. So even if we take this ONE study as established scientific fact (which it is not, you moron) that means that is 75 PERCENT OF CASES THERE IS NO GENETIC BASIS. It counters your theory that "chromosomes have NOTHING to do with it." Dumb ass Not really. Am I actually agreeing with Robohump here? (shakes head in disbelief). Well no, I am not agreeing with his side of the argument, but I'm agreeing with him that your "source" and study are pretty much bollocks. Stop posting things without proper citations as well - that was just a bunch of text accredited to nobody (and with several large logical flaws).
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Post by Noel Westerberg on Aug 12, 2008 9:34:33 GMT -5
I agree with Notorious L4E....it's all to do w/ Chromosomes. Anyway, no point in arguing about something like that, as no one is going to change their opinion b/c someone brings up some article. Although, you think Robohump and some of the others are from the American south with these outdated beliefs??
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Post by Beady’s Here Now on Aug 12, 2008 9:39:44 GMT -5
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Post by Robohump on Aug 12, 2008 9:42:09 GMT -5
I agree with Notorious L4E....it's all to do w/ Chromosomes. Anyway, no point in arguing about something like that, as no one is going to change their opinion b/c someone brings up some article. Although, you think Robohump and some of the others are from the American south with these outdated beliefs?? I'm further North than you are, buddy. I just choose to use my head. Where you got this "being gay is genetic" nonsense from is beyond me. American Psychological AssociationThere is no consensus among scientists about the exact reasons that an individual develops a heterosexual, bisexual, gay, or lesbian orientation.
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Post by Robohump on Aug 12, 2008 9:43:24 GMT -5
American Psychological Association There is no consensus among scientists about the exact reasons that an individual develops a heterosexual, bisexual, gay, or lesbian orientation.www.apa.org/topics/sorientation.html#whatcausesEnd of debate. You are an idiot.
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Post by Marcos on Aug 12, 2008 9:43:41 GMT -5
people are going crazy we need DOYS now!! ;D
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Post by Beady’s Here Now on Aug 12, 2008 9:46:14 GMT -5
American Psychological Association There is no consensus among scientists about the exact reasons that an individual develops a heterosexual, bisexual, gay, or lesbian orientation.www.apa.org/topics/sorientation.html#whatcausesEnd of debate. You are an idiot. If there's no general consensus, then what allows you to smugly assert that chromosomes don't play any role? You're the idiot.
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Post by ugottahavefun on Aug 12, 2008 9:47:39 GMT -5
Homosexuality goes against nature therefore it's wrong
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Post by Noel Westerberg on Aug 12, 2008 9:48:38 GMT -5
Homosexuality goes against nature therefore it's wrong Don't be so hard on yourself; learn to accept who you are.....
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Post by ugottahavefun on Aug 12, 2008 10:00:06 GMT -5
Homosexuality goes against nature therefore it's wrong Don't be so hard on yourself; learn to accept who you are..... You can't talk me out of it, i'm going to jump!! ;D
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Post by curlies on Aug 12, 2008 10:04:54 GMT -5
A perfect example of what frenches are thinking about Oasis :
About the Coldplay and Radiohead fans from the most important music and culture magazine in France :
Oasis étant de plus en plus discret ces dernières années, écrasé par de meilleurs, de plus grands, de plus modernes groupe, il fallait aux frères Gallagher rallumer la mèche du scandale pour faire un peu parler de leur prochain album, Dig Out Your Soul, à paraître le 6 octobre et très attendu par les fans ultra -sans doute beaucoup moins par les autres.
Liam Gallagher a trouvé un joli premier sujet de discorde : Coldplay et Radiohead, et surtout leurs fans, qu'il insulte carrément, dans la vieille tradition des Mancuniens. "Je me suis adouci ces dernières années, mais pas comme l'ont fait Coldplay et Radiohead, a déclaré celui qui, par ailleurs, explique n'écouter que des groupes ayant plus de vingt ans. Je ne les déteste pas. Je ne leur souhaite pas d'accidents. Mais je pense que leurs fans sont laids et ennuyeux, et qu'ils ne donnent pas l'impression de s'amuser beaucoup." Sympa, quoi.
BS
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Post by Moorish on Aug 12, 2008 10:05:05 GMT -5
Pay attention, muppet. I said I DIDN'T agree with Robohump's side of the argument, but I did agree with him that your response was flawed (and uncited). Thanks for all the links though. Didn't take much, did it?
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Post by eva on Aug 12, 2008 10:06:33 GMT -5
who fuckin cares? enough already. I don't care if noel's cromosomes are making him gay, if he choses it as a hobby or if liam is a transvestite as long as they keep making good music. ffs
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