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Post by Beady’s Here Now on Jul 19, 2008 13:10:01 GMT -5
We've heard all sorts of conspiracies regarding STC and DOYS....Maybe Outta Time is STC with a different name, maybe it's a bonus track etc...
And while its 99% certain STC was just left off, I have another theory to add for us to ponder:
Perhaps Noel has intentionaly left it off the track listing, but in reality has it as #12 (not a hidden track, but a track in its own right) but hasn't told us or the media that because he wants us to be surprised?
Another variation of this theory:
Perhaps Noel might add it on at the VERY VERY last min??
Ponder away
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Post by A on Jul 19, 2008 13:23:00 GMT -5
Or maybe it's just on that super deluxe version of the album?
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Post by thelostchord on Jul 19, 2008 14:42:37 GMT -5
Or maybe it's just on that super deluxe version of the album? |
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Post by Mr. Monobrow on Jul 19, 2008 14:43:36 GMT -5
Or maybe it's just on that super deluxe version of the album? I'd be amazed if the super deluxe version (if it even exists) has any different songs than the album. I'd expect anything on there to be alternative versions than whats on the record (remixes, demos, instrumentals etc.) The album itself if supposed to be it's own package - anything different to that takes something away from that. Territories outside the UK might get a couple of bonus tracks as usual, but I'd expect the UK package to be firmly be all about the 11 songs. |
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Post by anthmcc on Jul 19, 2008 14:48:49 GMT -5
Or maybe it's just on that super deluxe version of the album? I'd be amazed if the super deluxe version (if it even exists) has any different songs than the album. I'd expect anything on there to be alternative versions than whats on the record (remixes, demos, instrumentals etc.) The album itself if supposed to be it's own package - anything different to that takes something away from that. Territories outside the UK might get a couple of bonus tracks as usual, but I'd expect the UK package to be firmly be all about the 11 songs. I would think the same. Maybe a Deluxe Version would be a Dual Disc similar to DBTT which had the album and also an exclusive documentary and Lyla video. Is it just me or was Stop the Clocks really not worth the wait? I think using it as anything other than a B-Side is kind of late in the day (The Stop the Clocks album kind of closed that book for me). |
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Post by Bloomfield on Jul 19, 2008 15:02:06 GMT -5
Deja Vu... This same nonsense was happening when the tracklist was released for DBTT and STC wasn't on it. People were in a panic. "Maybe it's a bonus track!" "Maybe it's a hidden track!" "Maybe it's a b-side!" "Maybe it will be on there despite the confirmed tracklist!"
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Post by Beady’s Here Now on Jul 19, 2008 15:03:25 GMT -5
I'd be amazed if the super deluxe version (if it even exists) has any different songs than the album. I'd expect anything on there to be alternative versions than whats on the record (remixes, demos, instrumentals etc.) The album itself if supposed to be it's own package - anything different to that takes something away from that. Territories outside the UK might get a couple of bonus tracks as usual, but I'd expect the UK package to be firmly be all about the 11 songs. I would think the same. Maybe a Deluxe Version would be a Dual Disc similar to DBTT which had the album and also an exclusive documentary and Lyla video. Is it just me or was Stop the Clocks really not worth the wait? I think using it as anything other than a B-Side is kind of late in the day (The Stop the Clocks album kind of closed that book for me). I like STC, and with the right version it'll be very very good. But RM is a much better tune with much more potential, and since both were leaked at the same time, i think RM took some of STC's thunder. Plus, as everyone on here as said, a song like STC would never live up to the hype, no matter what. But even the demo version could only help the album, no matter how good the album is. I'm still holding the belief that Noel has a long term goal for a future album where he has both songs - RM and STC - on it....Perhaps STC as the first song, and RM as the closer with new material wedged in between?.....I think that's a real possibility |
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Post by Plantpot on Jul 19, 2008 15:24:24 GMT -5
Mates, maybe we should just drop this whole "Stop the Clocks" discussion. The only reason we have been discussing this is because someone on this forum dreamed up the idea that it could be a bonus track. In other words, we have not received any information about this possibility from a reliable source, not even from the Riddler. In fact, all of the reliable information we have suggests that "Stop the Clocks" is not on the album.
There have been 10 or more threads dedicated to the possibility of "Stop the Clocks" being on the album and they are all the same. Fellas, "Stop the Clocks" is not on the album.
However, if "Stop the Clocks" somehow winds up on the album then I will eat a bag of dicks.
Cheers!
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Post by Jonny on Jul 19, 2008 15:27:07 GMT -5
However, if "Stop the Clocks" somehow winds up on the album then I will eat a bag of dicks. Cheers! Would pay to see. |
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Post by Beady’s Here Now on Jul 19, 2008 15:55:58 GMT -5
However, if "Stop the Clocks" somehow winds up on the album then I will eat a bag of dicks. Cheers! Would pay to see. I wouldn't. I don't want to see any kind of dick, in any size, shape, or form. |
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Post by Colt on Jul 19, 2008 16:28:16 GMT -5
However, if "Stop the Clocks" somehow winds up on the album then I will eat a bag of dicks.
Haha. Well played. ;D
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Post by ugottahavefun on Jul 19, 2008 16:30:00 GMT -5
STC will not appear
Joe Canning is a legend!!!
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Post by Mr. Monobrow on Jul 19, 2008 18:24:05 GMT -5
I'm still holding the belief that Noel has a long term goal for a future album where he has both songs - RM and STC - on it....Perhaps STC as the first song, and RM as the closer with new material wedged in between?.....I think that's a real possibility The trouble with that is, at present, Noel is only releasing 10 or so of his songs every 3 or 4 years. By the time the next one comes round, he'll have done the same thing, written new songs, saw them as fresher and will release them instead. The next album will be probably 2011-2012, by then both of those songs will be nearly ten years old - I just can't see him using two ten year old songs as the backbone for a new record. The band as a whole are writing far too much music to release - which will be great when the inevitable 'Anthology'-type release comes around. Unfortunately, that could be years and years away, possibly after some of them are dead. |
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Post by cloudburster on Jul 20, 2008 8:34:52 GMT -5
I read somewhere that Oasis are planning to release The Boy With The Blues and Stop The Clocks as a double a-side next summer because neither of them fit on the album
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Post by Mr. Monobrow on Jul 20, 2008 9:23:30 GMT -5
I read somewhere that Oasis are planning to release The Boy With The Blues and Stop The Clocks as a double a-side next summer because neither of them fit on the album I read that in 2005... |
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Post by thedon on Jul 20, 2008 9:37:31 GMT -5
Stop The Clocks is far superior to the pseudo-anthem that is Record Machine.
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Post by seanppp on Jul 20, 2008 10:32:12 GMT -5
I think Noel doesn't care as much about STC as all of us. If it was on the record they'd say so. It's only a big deal because fans have made it such. There are no secrets.
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Post by Moorish on Jul 20, 2008 10:58:26 GMT -5
We've heard all sorts of conspiracies regarding STC and DOYS....Maybe Outta Time is STC with a different name, maybe it's a bonus track etc... And while its 99% certain STC was just left off, I have another theory to add for us to ponder: Perhaps Noel has intentionaly left it off the track listing, but in reality has it as #12 (not a hidden track, but a track in its own right) but hasn't told us or the media that because he wants us to be surprised? Another variation of this theory: Perhaps Noel might add it on at the VERY VERY last min?? Ponder away Dude, I think you might just need to accept that neither STC or Record Machine are on the album. |
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Post by henrod89 on Jul 20, 2008 13:45:18 GMT -5
lol. Some of you think about things way too much.
It's either on the album or it's a secret track, which I doubt they would do with this song.
Get over it people. It's not a different title. There's no need to have all these conspiracies. It's just simply not on.
The song doesn't fit the description and the 'groove' that Noel has been talking about with this album. It's that simple. Maybe next time or the time after that when it's a better fit.
Do you people lose sleep over this? It's really not that difficult to see what's going on with the song . . .
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Post by castlecraver on Jul 20, 2008 14:34:19 GMT -5
I agree with Mr. Monobrow, and wouldn't be surprised at all if we never got STC on an official LP release. They're going to have this accumulated pile of material for as many albums as they put out; STC is reflective of the HC/DBTT Oasis, and probably not going to fit in to whereever they're at musically in a few years time. If it does get released, it'll most likely be a B-side, or a one-off single like LDSMD (it would make a cool charity single, come to think of it).
I just can't see them wasting the STC hype and mystique on a "hidden" track. Nobody buys albums for hidden tracks. And if they were going to release STC, especially considering Noel is well aware of how much speculation and interest there is in the song and how well it would sell, we'd know when.
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Post by TheEXPERIENCE on Jul 20, 2008 14:37:09 GMT -5
I agree with Mr. Monobrow, and wouldn't be surprised at all if we never got STC on an official LP release. They're going to have this accumulated pile of material for as many albums as they put out; STC is reflective of the HC/DBTT Oasis, and probably not going to fit in to whereever they're at musically in a few years time. If it does get released, it'll most likely be a B-side, or a one-off single like LDSMD (it would make a cool charity single, come to think of it). I just can't see them wasting the STC hype and mystique on a "hidden" track. Nobody buys albums for hidden tracks. And if they were going to release STC, especially considering Noel is well aware of how much speculation and interest there is in the song and how well it would sell, we'd know when. Gotta disagree with that last part. Stop the Clocks is not the kind of song that appeals to the masses. It's a psychedelic Beatles on acid type of song...and that music wouldn't sell now unfortunately  To me, STC is like a better version of Who Feels Love...And that song did terrible on the radio |
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Post by The Boy Without the Blues on Jul 20, 2008 14:42:01 GMT -5
We've heard all sorts of conspiracies regarding STC and DOYS....Maybe Outta Time is STC with a different name, maybe it's a bonus track etc... And while its 99% certain STC was just left off, I have another theory to add for us to ponder: Perhaps Noel has intentionaly left it off the track listing, but in reality has it as #12 (not a hidden track, but a track in its own right) but hasn't told us or the media that because he wants us to be surprised? Another variation of this theory: Perhaps Noel might add it on at the VERY VERY last min?? Ponder away Dude, I think you might just need to accept that neither STC or Record Machine are on the album. I agree. and whoever still believes that Outta Time might be STC is a complete idiot cos' Noel said that Liam wrote it the first time he mentioned about the song... |
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Post by jilliam on Jul 20, 2008 16:27:47 GMT -5
You ask me, when the well begins to dry....it might be time then for a Masterplan "REmix". No complaints here.
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