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Post by ellogovner on Jul 18, 2008 20:25:14 GMT -5
Wheres the attitude of supersonic? Songs like lyla and hindu times while nice songs, well structure, well written lack the raw attitude of supersonic.
Why not start off a song with that infectious simple, rock n roll drum beat then kick in with a killer riff? Now all the fast rockers sound...generic.
Im not asking for another supersonice, but something with the same feeling. From the 15 second clip of SOTL it sounds the same old same old as the last few singles. ALthough falling down sounds killer so well see. But man noel bring back that swagger in this album chief...
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Post by thelostchord on Jul 18, 2008 22:11:53 GMT -5
Turn Up the Sun has great swagger IMO
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Post by BasementGuitarist on Jul 18, 2008 22:43:39 GMT -5
Totally agree...
"I carry a madness everywhere I go"
Good swagger in the opening line
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Post by checkwithmemum on Jul 18, 2008 23:54:56 GMT -5
would you want people judging you by your left big toe? Then lets not judge a song on a 15 second clip made to be a ring-tone.
Im a different breed
Im outta your league
Im 10 out of 10, alright
that has a bit of swagger for me
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Post by cloudburster on Jul 19, 2008 6:33:45 GMT -5
A. They are in their late 30s/early 40s
B. As far as I know, Liam is the only one who does drugs now and even he admitted he rarely does it as he is a father.
They've matured a lot, chill out
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Post by Jonny on Jul 19, 2008 7:03:25 GMT -5
I reckon there's less swagger but from that 20 secon clip of Shock of the Lightning, I beg to differ.
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Post by TheEXPERIENCE on Jul 19, 2008 9:01:10 GMT -5
How does the Hindu Times not have that swagger? "I get up when I'm down/
I can't swim but my soul won't drown/ I do believe I got flare/
I got speed and I walk on air
No?
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Post by start at the end on Jul 19, 2008 9:20:27 GMT -5
A. They are in their late 30s/early 40s B. As far as I know, Liam is the only one who does drugs now and even he admitted he rarely does it as he is a father. They've matured a lot, chill out +1 |
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Post by Beady’s Here Now on Jul 19, 2008 13:06:45 GMT -5
I'm pretty sure Liam has stopped all drug usage...Not like it really matters though
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Post by TheEXPERIENCE on Jul 19, 2008 13:41:06 GMT -5
When we say drugs, are we talking weed? Cause I really don't think they've stopped smoking pot...Most of these bands think of weed like cigarettes compared to the shit they used to do.
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Post by Beady’s Here Now on Jul 19, 2008 14:09:46 GMT -5
When we say drugs, are we talking weed? Cause I really don't think they've stopped smoking pot...Most of these bands think of weed like cigarettes compared to the shit they used to do. To be fair, weed is so commonly used that it basically is like smoking a cigarette in today's society. I don't smoke either. Can't even stand doing Hookah, disgusting stuff smoking is. |
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Post by TheEXPERIENCE on Jul 19, 2008 14:12:10 GMT -5
When we say drugs, are we talking weed? Cause I really don't think they've stopped smoking pot...Most of these bands think of weed like cigarettes compared to the shit they used to do. To be fair, weed is so commonly used that it basically is like smoking a cigarette in today's society. I don't smoke either. Can't even stand doing Hookah, disgusting stuff smoking is. Weed is like a cigarette. Don't get me started on the fact it's illegal |
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Post by Beady’s Here Now on Jul 19, 2008 14:41:56 GMT -5
To be fair, weed is so commonly used that it basically is like smoking a cigarette in today's society. I don't smoke either. Can't even stand doing Hookah, disgusting stuff smoking is. Weed is like a cigarette. Don't get me started on the fact it's illegal Ecstacy - don't get me started on that one! That's the only currently illegal drug I want to try, and it's the safest one according to BBC's Horizon, and shouldn't even be classified really. The problem with the war on drugs is that alcohol is legal - it's one of the most dangerous, contributes to millions of deaths and severe health problems, yet it remains legal, while much safer drugs are banned. Plus prohibition never worked, it's not working now, and it'll never work. The best option is regulation - regulate the not so dangerous drugs (XTC, Weed, etc) to get it out of the hands of criminals and make it safer for the user. Fact is, the people who want to take drugs will do so regardless of the status. It's the governments job to make sure its citizens are safe, and by not regulating makes them an epic fail. In certain circumstances, someone who smokes weed can get more jail time than someone who raped or murdered someone, how fucked up is that? Anyway, I really do think some of these drugs will indeed be legalized and regulated within the next 40 years - it's the way we're heading. |
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Post by TheEXPERIENCE on Jul 19, 2008 14:46:08 GMT -5
Weed is like a cigarette. Don't get me started on the fact it's illegal Ecstacy - don't get me started on that one! That's the only currently illegal drug I want to try, and it's the safest one according to BBC's Horizon, and shouldn't even be classified really. The problem with the war on drugs is that alcohol is legal - it's one of the most dangerous, contributes to millions of deaths and severe health problems, yet it remains legal, while much safer drugs are banned. Plus prohibition never worked, it's not working now, and it'll never work. The best option is regulation - regulate the not so dangerous drugs (XTC, Weed, etc) to get it out of the hands of criminals and make it safer for the user. Fact is, the people who want to take drugs will do so regardless of the status. It's the governments job to make sure its citizens are safe, and by not regulating makes them an epic fail. In certain circumstances, someone who smokes weed can get more jail time than someone who raped or murdered someone, how fucked up is that? Anyway, I really do think some of these drugs will indeed be legalized and regulated within the next 40 years - it's the way we're heading. In Amsterdam, where marijuana is obviously legal...the percent of people smoke is actually LOWER than here in the US where it remains illegal. Thank goodness here in NY it's decriminalized. If you get caught with up to 25 grams, its a $200 ticket. However, if you drive over the bridge to New Jersey, the same thing could get you $1,000 ticket and arrested. |
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Post by Beady’s Here Now on Jul 19, 2008 14:59:34 GMT -5
Ecstacy - don't get me started on that one! That's the only currently illegal drug I want to try, and it's the safest one according to BBC's Horizon, and shouldn't even be classified really. The problem with the war on drugs is that alcohol is legal - it's one of the most dangerous, contributes to millions of deaths and severe health problems, yet it remains legal, while much safer drugs are banned. Plus prohibition never worked, it's not working now, and it'll never work. The best option is regulation - regulate the not so dangerous drugs (XTC, Weed, etc) to get it out of the hands of criminals and make it safer for the user. Fact is, the people who want to take drugs will do so regardless of the status. It's the governments job to make sure its citizens are safe, and by not regulating makes them an epic fail. In certain circumstances, someone who smokes weed can get more jail time than someone who raped or murdered someone, how fucked up is that? Anyway, I really do think some of these drugs will indeed be legalized and regulated within the next 40 years - it's the way we're heading. In Amsterdam, where marijuana is obviously legal...the percent of people smoke is actually LOWER than here in the US where it remains illegal. Thank goodness here in NY it's decriminalized. If you get caught with up to 25 grams, its a $200 ticket. However, if you drive over the bridge to New Jersey, the same thing could get you $1,000 ticket and arrested. Oh, what also bothers me is the double standard - Bill Clinton tried weed. So why is it ok for him to smoke it, but authorize throwing his citizens in jail if they do likewise? Pure hypocricy. The war on drugs is an epic failure. Millions of people take XTC each week, a plenty more smoke Weed in the US....both drugs combined are safer than alcohol! XTC in its purest form is perfectly harmless, its only dehydration/water intoxication/laced with other toxins that makes it dangerous. Education and regulation is the way to go, not criminalization. |
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Post by henrod89 on Jul 19, 2008 15:29:47 GMT -5
Of course the songs don't have as much attitude to them anymore. Like some people have said, they're older now.
And I would never classify THT and MOS as having attitude. Those two songs are so mediocre, contrived, and generic and I can't see why people like them so much.
THT is Noel trying to re-create RnRS and ripping off a Stereophonics riff from Same Size Feet, and making it boring. Go listen to what the Stereophonics did with that riff and you'll see.
And MOS is so crappy I don't even know where to begin. DBTT would have been such a better album if Eyeball Tickler replaced MOS.
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Post by joeyfrancis on Jul 19, 2008 15:30:23 GMT -5
Part of the reason alcohol contributes to so many deaths is because it is legal and widely available.
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Post by TheEXPERIENCE on Jul 19, 2008 16:27:14 GMT -5
Part of the reason alcohol contributes to so many deaths is because it is legal and widely available. Exactly. People assume because it's legal, it's less risky to abuse it. Unfortunately there's millions of drunk driving accidents and deaths because of that assumption. You ever hear of an accident because the driver had smoked a little weed? I haven't |
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Post by Beady’s Here Now on Jul 19, 2008 17:00:58 GMT -5
Part of the reason alcohol contributes to so many deaths is because it is legal and widely available. You're right to a very small and limited extent. XTC death rates are around 20-40 PER YEAR. That's with millions of people taking it. And XTC death is caused by one of 3 things: 1.) Dehydration 2.) Water Intoxication 3.) Laced/Cut with other, dangerous drugs How do we make it safer then? 1.) Education - Proper intake of water and care, etc 2.) Regulation - Take it out of the hands of criminals, and thus prevent it from being laced with anything Pure MDMA is 99% Safe: FACT. I can almost guarantee , no one is dying right now of XTC, directly or indirectly. While I can almost guarantee that hundred, most likely thousands, are dying worldwide from alcohol. Alcohol is lethal. XTC/Weed is not: FACT. Either you keep all current drugs illegal, AND BAN alcohol too. OR you regulate some of the less harmful illeglas, and keep alcohol legal. But to have Weed and XTC illegal but alcohol legal doesn't make any sense. Plus, what REALLY bothers me about XTC is that it's only banned because the government acted too quickly in the 80s on unfounded information, which resulted in scare tactics. Now, in 2008, evidence points to XTC being pretty much harmless. Watch Ecstacy Rising - an ABC Special with Peter Jennings....can be found on Youtube....Great documentary. And it should make you really angry about the current laws. |
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Post by derekwilkinson on Jul 20, 2008 12:30:52 GMT -5
Or...here's a crazy thought... don't drink or do drugs?
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Post by supersonic1983 on Jul 20, 2008 12:40:49 GMT -5
Yeah, and when you've done that, go and spend the rest of your days in a monastery chanting and making fucking cheese.
The keyword here, folks? MODERATION.
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Post by joeyfrancis on Jul 20, 2008 12:44:44 GMT -5
Yeah, and when you've done that, go and spend the rest of your days in a monastery chanting and making fucking cheese.  |
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Post by TheEXPERIENCE on Jul 20, 2008 12:49:07 GMT -5
Yeah, and when you've done that, go and spend the rest of your days in a monastery chanting and making fucking cheese. The keyword here, folks? MODERATION. haha yup  |
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Post by justaroundmidnight on Jul 21, 2008 12:25:41 GMT -5
Yeah, and when you've done that, go and spend the rest of your days in a monastery chanting and making fucking cheese. The keyword here, folks? MODERATION. Try telling that to a person with addictive tendencies. |
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