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Post by ellogovner on Jul 15, 2008 14:47:00 GMT -5
Seems to be very religious/metaphysical in nature.
1) Dig out your soul. Could be more of a “soul music” reference, but still anything referencing soul has religious connotations. And taken as a whole with the following two points, leads to religious nature.
2) The artwork. We have a clouded sky fighting a huge tidal wave, graveyards, clocks, mushroom clouds all can be viewed in terms of religion.
3) then the titles of the songs. Waiting for the rapture? To be where there is life? The nature of reality?
Some heavy stuff. Is noel contemplating his own mortality here?
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Post by TheEXPERIENCE on Jul 15, 2008 14:52:39 GMT -5
Seems to be very religious/metaphysical in nature. 1) Dig out your soul. Could be more of a “soul music” reference, but still anything referencing soul has religious connotations. And taken as a whole with the following two points, leads to religious nature. 2) The artwork. We have a clouded sky fighting a huge tidal wave, graveyards, clocks, mushroom clouds all can be viewed in terms of religion. 3) then the titles of the songs. Waiting for the rapture? To be where there is life? The nature of reality? Some heavy stuff. Is noel contemplating his own mortality here? From BBC Article:
Noel also revealed details about his lyrics for his new songs: "I've literally got nothing left to write about: I've wrote about being a youth, and I've wrote about being a rock star, and I've wrote about living life in the big city. I've been re-visiting some of my more psychedelic trips of a younger man, because I remember them all you see...putting them to music."Religious or not, that album cover is as psychedelic as it gets |
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Post by Columbus Egg on Jul 15, 2008 14:57:27 GMT -5
The Rolling Stones have used religious themes in their music and album covers for decades. Noel is probably aiming to go in that direction.
The Beatles did their thing with the Maharishi ... Led Zeppelin wrote Stairway To Heaven ... flirting with religion isn't exactly new ground for classicist rock music. It's usually more tied in with psychadelia, using religious imagery as a means to make all the wild concepts look more legitimate and thus more meaningful.
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Post by ellogovner on Jul 15, 2008 17:30:16 GMT -5
And therein lies the problem i have with noel.
He seems to do things, just because.
Just because the beatles did it or the stones did it. Just because it makes things more meaningful. Why cant things be meaningful without the use of old gimmicks?
I feel for such an amazing talent he seems so lazy when it comes to the big picture. He is content to just write amazing songs. But if he just tried a little harder, the whole package, the brand of oasis would be taken more seriously.
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Post by XTRMNTRSCREAM on Jul 15, 2008 17:35:22 GMT -5
the butterflies symbolize the butterfly effect
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Post by supersonic1983 on Jul 15, 2008 17:50:09 GMT -5
He is content to just write amazing songs. Fuck me; a songwriter who's content 'just' writing amazing songs? What a c*nt! |
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Post by ugottahavefun on Jul 15, 2008 17:55:54 GMT -5
He is content to just write amazing songs. Fuck me; a songwriter who's content 'just' writing amazing songs? What a c*nt! ;D |
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Post by nyr401994 on Jul 15, 2008 18:54:58 GMT -5
The Rolling Stones have used religious themes in their music and album covers for decades. Noel is probably aiming to go in that direction. The Beatles did their thing with the Maharishi ... and rebelled against it. |
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Post by Rock N' Roll Dad on Jul 15, 2008 19:01:48 GMT -5
He is content to just write amazing songs. Fuck me; a songwriter who's content 'just' writing amazing songs? What a c*nt! LOL!! ;D |
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Post by Columbus Egg on Jul 15, 2008 20:16:34 GMT -5
The Rolling Stones have used religious themes in their music and album covers for decades. Noel is probably aiming to go in that direction. The Beatles did their thing with the Maharishi ... and rebelled against it. What's your point? |
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Post by anthmcc on Jul 15, 2008 23:12:43 GMT -5
Have you tried a U2 forum? They're content to just write decent songs, but they have this singer who wants us all to wear a condom and carries 55 gallon drums of piss on his head across Kenya for 6 days at a time. He's taken very seriously, by himself.
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Post by ellogovner on Jul 16, 2008 6:36:29 GMT -5
Fuck me; a songwriter who's content 'just' writing amazing songs?
What a c*nt!
Well it works when youre writing 7 amazing classic songs a record. When you write 1 as of late. Not so much...
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Post by checkwithmemum on Jul 16, 2008 7:23:05 GMT -5
na its gonna be a song about the cut-throat world of real estate |
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Post by jlzoasis on Jul 16, 2008 20:19:46 GMT -5
huh I really think most oasis songs have some sort of religious / spiritual context . Live Forever, the Masterplan, Guess God Thinks I'm Abel, Stand By Me (God only knows), Some Might Say, The Hindu Times, Stop the Clocks . I mean how many times has Oasis used Soul in a song? Its got to be a rock n roll band record... Oasis' song tend to examine the BIG picture in a I hate to say this cos I love them them, in a simpler way then most bands...but thats what makes them great. Does that make any sense? This record from what I can tell might be the Big Picture like the past in a more complicated package...
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Post by nyr401994 on Jul 16, 2008 21:27:57 GMT -5
putting religion as a leitmotif in the beatles' career is ridiculous. except for george harrison, but that was more for his solo career than with the beatles. |
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Post by Columbus Egg on Jul 16, 2008 23:21:04 GMT -5
Meh. It was a big story at the time and I was just making a few quick grabs for older household name artists to convey how established the theme is. Of course I don't think the Beatles did that.
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Post by noelhimself on Jul 17, 2008 9:58:23 GMT -5
I remember noel saying somewhere that he gave up trying the decipher the entire meaning of life in just one song after the BHN days.
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Post by Cast on Jul 17, 2008 10:47:05 GMT -5
I remember noel saying somewhere that he gave up trying the decipher the entire meaning of life in just one song after the BHN days. I thought that was more recently... Like after SOTSOG or HC. He said coldplay does that best or something |
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Post by noelhimself on Jul 17, 2008 14:16:31 GMT -5
I remember noel saying somewhere that he gave up trying the decipher the entire meaning of life in just one song after the BHN days. I thought that was more recently... Like after SOTSOG or HC. He said coldplay does that best or something I think you might be right there, it may have been when he explained why he wrote a song about waiting in a queue to buy a pint of milk, so around DBTT's release |
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Post by Noel Westerberg on Jul 17, 2008 14:19:56 GMT -5
Have you tried a U2 forum? They're content to just write decent songs, but they have this singer who wants us all to wear a condom and carries 55 gallon drums of piss on his head across Kenya for 6 days at a time. He's taken very seriously, by himself. U2 writes 'decent' songs? Are you maybe referring to their recent output or all of it. Oasis is my favorite band but let's be honest here, U2 have put out more albums of high quality and much more consistently than Oasis have - and for about 15 years longer. They didn't start to decline until the mid 90's which is 15 years into their career, whereas Oasis started to decline after 4 years after they started.....And 'decent' songs? Ha ha, u gotta be kidding! |
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Post by anthmcc on Jul 17, 2008 16:31:07 GMT -5
Have you tried a U2 forum? They're content to just write decent songs, but they have this singer who wants us all to wear a condom and carries 55 gallon drums of piss on his head across Kenya for 6 days at a time. He's taken very seriously, by himself. U2 writes 'decent' songs? Are you maybe referring to their recent output or all of it. Oasis is my favorite band but let's be honest here, U2 have put out more albums of high quality and much more consistently than Oasis have - and for about 15 years longer. They didn't start to decline until the mid 90's which is 15 years into their career, whereas Oasis started to decline after 4 years after they started.....And 'decent' songs? Ha ha, u gotta be kidding! I don't disagree with anything you're saying, U2's consistency and longevity are equally matched with their ability to sound fresh and relevant on new releases. My post in its' entirety was a jestful one, I don't always take myself too seriously on the forum ;D My posts are usually very balanced when I'm not playing around  |
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