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Post by downs on Jul 12, 2008 9:36:39 GMT -5
oasis aren't the beatles. they aren't going to be groundbreaking. they can throw in tomorrow never knows or straight outta compton drumbeats, "zeppelin-esque" guitar and backwards trippy stuff with liam describing his latest shopping foray on bond street, but they aren't going to re-create themselves. leave that to madonna and her 50 year old hairy (probably bald if i know her well enough) mollusk.
so. are oasis fans going the dreaded route of being like 40 year old bon jovi fans, recreating their big hair with our gallaghery-dos?
aerosmith. stones. the eagles. metallica. countless others that have been huge. each new album comes out, 2 typical singles come out to keep the fans happy and to remind the public that they haven't retired. is this oasis?
the beatles got all their shit done and dusted within 10 years. oasis are going on 17 years and (i hope not at least) it's getting a bit like the stones.
should we resign ourselves to the fact that we are sailing on a comfortably navigated ship to mediocrity? is liam the next steven tyler?
God help us all.
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Post by kenneth on Jul 12, 2008 9:40:49 GMT -5
Umm, they were in fact really ground breaking with Definitely Maybe. They'll hopefully break some new barriers with their new album as well.
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Post by idledreamer on Jul 12, 2008 9:47:51 GMT -5
look, the beatles were something very special, a band like that only comes along once in a lifetime,, maqybe make that two or three lifetimes. i know you won't see another band like that if you live to be 100.
i think it is unrealistic to expect any band to come close to matching the level and amount of quality that the fab four brought to the table consistently album after album. but your right, if they had kept going on, who knows? look at how macca's quality dropped off after he broke off from lennon ...
with that being said, for noel it has never been about the amount of hit singles an album has, or how many times he can please the mtv machine. he has always basically been, 'here's the album, this is what we've come up with' .
unless the first single is 'the shock of the lightning' by oasis ft. LIL WAYNE, then i would venture to guess that sales and chart position will be around the same as dbtt was. three singles i'm guessing out of the lot, but who knows at this point?
who cares if the general public thinks they are mediocre? the bottom line is, if you enjoy the music and the band, isn't that all that really matters?
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Post by TheEXPERIENCE on Jul 12, 2008 10:15:07 GMT -5
look, the beatles were something very special, a band like that only comes along once in a lifetime,, maqybe make that two or three lifetimes. i know you won't see another band like that if you live to be 100. i think it is unrealistic to expect any band to come close to matching the level and amount of quality that the fab four brought to the table consistently album after album. but your right, if they had kept going on, who knows? look at how macca's quality dropped off after he broke off from lennon ... with that being said, for noel it has never been about the amount of hit singles an album has, or how many times he can please the mtv machine. he has always basically been, 'here's the album, this is what we've come up with' . unless the first single is 'the shock of the lightning' by oasis ft. LIL WAYNE, then i would venture to guess that sales and chart position will be around the same as dbtt was. three singles i'm guessing out of the lot, but who knows at this point? who cares if the general public thinks they are mediocre? the bottom line is, if you enjoy the music and the band, isn't that all that really matters? Bingo. |
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Post by Beady’s Here Now on Jul 12, 2008 10:21:56 GMT -5
oasis aren't the beatles. they aren't going to be groundbreaking. they can throw in tomorrow never knows or straight outta compton drumbeats, "zeppelin-esque" guitar and backwards trippy stuff with liam describing his latest shopping foray on bond street, but they aren't going to re-create themselves. leave that to madonna and her 50 year old hairy (probably bald if i know her well enough) mollusk. so. are oasis fans going the dreaded route of being like 40 year old bon jovi fans, recreating their big hair with our gallaghery-dos? aerosmith. stones. the eagles. metallica. countless others that have been huge. each new album comes out, 2 typical singles come out to keep the fans happy and to remind the public that they haven't retired. is this oasis? the beatles got all their shit done and dusted within 10 years. oasis are going on 17 years and (i hope not at least) it's getting a bit like the stones. should we resign ourselves to the fact that we are sailing on a comfortably navigated ship to mediocrity? is liam the next steven tyler? God help us all. Firstly, get your facts right. DM came out in 1994, now apply your third grade math, although based on this post I doubt you even made it that far, and subtract it from 2008. You'll come to the realization that Oasis has been around for 14 years, not 17. Secondly, the answer to your long winded question: No. Oasis appeals to late teens and the youth still. Hell, I'm only 20. All of Oasis' songs, past and present, speak to the youth, and the sound is very much youth oriented (ie not "dad rock" - although that is a really stupid term imo). |
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Post by Beady’s Here Now on Jul 12, 2008 10:29:40 GMT -5
oasis aren't the beatles. they aren't going to be groundbreaking And what are you talking about? You clearly are new to Oasis or just came on here to stir trouble up. Oasis were HUGE in the 90s. You're right, bands like the Beatles come around very rarely, but Oasis WERE one of those bands. * 250,000 people attended the Knebworth gig in 1996. That's special * Over 2 million applied for tickets for that gig. That's special * Oasis are still relevant around the world 14 years later. That's special. * Oasis have had constant and several #1s in the charts. That's special. * Oasis have inspired dozens of new mainstream bands. That's special. * Oasis WERE the 90s. That's special. * Oasis changed the way people talked and dressed (at their height). That's special. * Oasis -helped- to change the musical scene in the UK * Oasis have penned such majestic rock ballads that will stand the test of time - Live Forever and Slide Away to name just two. I think all that and more classifies them as a special special band. Oasis is that special band. Oasis do not sound like the Beatles, bar the odd tune ("Whatever", for example). Nor are Oasis the Beatles. HOWEVER, Oasis are the Beatles of our generation. |
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Post by jakem on Jul 12, 2008 10:31:52 GMT -5
oasis aren't the beatles. they aren't going to be groundbreaking. they can throw in tomorrow never knows or straight outta compton drumbeats, "zeppelin-esque" guitar and backwards trippy stuff with liam describing his latest shopping foray on bond street, but they aren't going to re-create themselves. leave that to madonna and her 50 year old hairy (probably bald if i know her well enough) mollusk. so. are oasis fans going the dreaded route of being like 40 year old bon jovi fans, recreating their big hair with our gallaghery-dos? aerosmith. stones. the eagles. metallica. countless others that have been huge. each new album comes out, 2 typical singles come out to keep the fans happy and to remind the public that they haven't retired. is this oasis? the beatles got all their shit done and dusted within 10 years. oasis are going on 17 years and (i hope not at least) it's getting a bit like the stones. should we resign ourselves to the fact that we are sailing on a comfortably navigated ship to mediocrity? is liam the next steven tyler? God help us all. Firstly, get your facts right. DM came out in 1994, now apply your third grade math, although based on this post I doubt you even made it that far, and subtract it from 2008. You'll come to the realization that Oasis has been around for 14 years, not 17. Secondly, the answer to your long winded question: No. Oasis appeals to late teens and the youth still. Hell, I'm only 20. All of Oasis' songs, past and present, speak to the youth, and the sound is very much youth oriented (ie not "dad rock" - although that is a really stupid term imo). Oasis formed in 1991, mate. |
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Post by start at the end on Jul 12, 2008 10:38:10 GMT -5
crazy, I think the Beatles really only changed their sound ONCE. They went from a 2 1/2 min pop hit group, to a bonifide rock group, with the only MAJOR departure being SGT. Peppers.
Oasis have pretty much always been a rock group and their "Sgt Peppers" was likely in the "pop" genre with WTSMG?
SOTSOG was a little more psychadelic but the balance of their work is really their forte: rock n roll.
Really I think their in lies the greatest common denominator between the beatles and oasis. They both pretty much stuck to a "genre" for the most part. Rock N Roll.
Give oasis another ten years and who knows where they'll end up.
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Post by Beady’s Here Now on Jul 12, 2008 10:38:54 GMT -5
Firstly, get your facts right. DM came out in 1994, now apply your third grade math, although based on this post I doubt you even made it that far, and subtract it from 2008. You'll come to the realization that Oasis has been around for 14 years, not 17. Secondly, the answer to your long winded question: No. Oasis appeals to late teens and the youth still. Hell, I'm only 20. All of Oasis' songs, past and present, speak to the youth, and the sound is very much youth oriented (ie not "dad rock" - although that is a really stupid term imo). Oasis formed in 1991, mate. Yeah, but I think a more logical way of judging a band's length is by means of when their first album comes out. 1994 was the first time the public became familiar to them, that's what counts. |
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Post by idledreamer on Jul 12, 2008 10:45:06 GMT -5
oasis aren't the beatles. they aren't going to be groundbreaking And what are you talking about? You clearly are new to Oasis or just came on here to stir trouble up. um, i didn't say that mate, the poster above me did. get your quotes straight . by the way, i have been a fan since 1995, so no need to take that kind of tone with me fella  |
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Post by digoutyoursoul123 on Jul 12, 2008 10:46:21 GMT -5
i'm 17, oasis are more important to me than any other band today, and my brother who's 13 shares that same opinion, the bands you said... "aerosmith. stones. the eagles. metallica." just couldn't right live forever, don't look back in anger, rock and roll star or the importance of being idle, songs which in my opinion, and many more of todays youths opinion, will infact live forever.
and i have never being this excited for a new album ever
anyone agree?
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Post by downs on Jul 12, 2008 10:54:48 GMT -5
thanks jakem. your maths are as good as mine. solid.
anyway, as always, i was just trying to highlight some pretty heady facts.
and the 20 year olds come out, guns a blazin to prove that they're as madferit as everyone else. WE were madferit in 1996. my grade 3 education figures that you would have been singing along to fucking hootie and the blowfish.
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Post by Beady’s Here Now on Jul 12, 2008 11:01:55 GMT -5
thanks jakem. your maths are as good as mine. solid. anyway, as always, i was just trying to highlight some pretty heady facts. and the 20 year olds come out, guns a blazin to prove that they're as madferit as everyone else. WE were madferit in 1996. my grade 3 education figures that you would have been singing along to fucking hootie and the blowfish. that made be laugh. karma for you  |
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Post by Columbus Egg on Jul 12, 2008 11:09:14 GMT -5
so. are oasis fans going the dreaded route of being like 40 year old bon jovi fans, recreating their big hair with our gallaghery-dos? Sagging TCB tattoos and finding strands of your quasi Beatles haircut on your pillow isn't so bad. Your post comes off like what's really upsetting you is getting older and associating with old drunken bums. Just embrace it, it's going to happen anyway. Younger bands with their wacky t'baccy rocky roll records won't save you; might actually make you look worse. Stave off being an old fossil by eating right, exercising and sleeping well. But act your age and stop trying to ignore that you grew up with what's become a cult band. |
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Post by masterplan200 on Jul 12, 2008 11:25:35 GMT -5
To the poster of Oasis is a special band, I prefer the last three Porcupine Tree albums to Oasis' last two, to me I have never heard better produced albums and they are special to me (my opinion not fact)
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Post by vespa on Jul 12, 2008 11:41:49 GMT -5
the comparison between oasis an the beatles is nonsense,they really dont sound much alike,the odd track here an,an to be honest its only cos noel n liam stated they loved the beatles,probably the worst thing they couldve done as thats somoetimes all there tagged as.there wont be another beatles,they were ridiculously huge an at that time were different,but they never did really change there sound for albums,they wrote the odd differetnt kind of track but never full on albums up until sgt pepper an that was hardly them doing dance music was it?but it was innovative for there time.oasis are oasis they have there own sound ,the closest anyone as ever been to knowing the success of the beatles was oasis,in the mid 90s they were truly huge,unless you were old enough aswell to see this then you truly will never know just how bibg they got.no disrespect to the younger fans there but just stating,i remember at the time deff lepperds frontman said hed never quite seen anything like it.ive a feeling tho with this record that were gonna see a totally diferent style coming from the band.trance an grooves sounds very promising an if anyone can write a rock album with these influences then oasis can better than anyone,but for me ive always thought there sound changed on each album anyway
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Post by TheEXPERIENCE on Jul 12, 2008 13:01:53 GMT -5
the comparison between oasis an the beatles is nonsense,they really dont sound much alike,the odd track here an,an to be honest its only cos noel n liam stated they loved the beatles,probably the worst thing they couldve done as thats somoetimes all there tagged as Couldn't disagree more. When I'm trying to get someone into Oasis who unfortunately knows nothing or very little about them, I tell them they sound like the Beatles getting struck by lightning. Generally because people think highly of the Beatles, they then give Oasis instant credibility in my experiences. I do agree there will never be another Beatles though. |
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Post by bwilder on Jul 12, 2008 13:30:30 GMT -5
The Beatles will be regarded as important as Shakespeare and Beethoven when all is said and done, if they're not already by some people. What they did- not only for music- but for pop culture is and will continue to be unparalleled. No one will ever touch them. Having said that, I fucking love Oasis. They will always be my band. My reason for picking up a guitar, starting a band and keeping the faith.
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Post by Jonny on Jul 12, 2008 13:37:38 GMT -5
I think the Beatles are more rated for their influence than their songs in my opinion. Nothing was the same since them. It's indeed, as mentioned above, difficult to imagine a world without Shakespeare, Beethoven and The Beatles.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 12, 2008 13:42:51 GMT -5
look, the beatles were something very special, a band like that only comes along once in a lifetime,, maqybe make that two or three lifetimes. i know you won't see another band like that if you live to be 100. i think it is unrealistic to expect any band to come close to matching the level and amount of quality that the fab four brought to the table consistently album after album. but your right, if they had kept going on, who knows? look at how macca's quality dropped off after he broke off from lennon ... with that being said, for noel it has never been about the amount of hit singles an album has, or how many times he can please the mtv machine. he has always basically been, 'here's the album, this is what we've come up with' . unless the first single is 'the shock of the lightning' by oasis ft. LIL WAYNE, then i would venture to guess that sales and chart position will be around the same as dbtt was. three singles i'm guessing out of the lot, but who knows at this point? who cares if the general public thinks they are mediocre? the bottom line is, if you enjoy the music and the band, isn't that all that really matters? Right here. |
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Post by costello on Jul 12, 2008 13:47:39 GMT -5
I'm 31 since march, Oasis fan since december 1994... and even if it's one of my fav band, I must confess that I start to consider them as my " Bon Jovi " / " Rolling Stones " kinda band...
And for " THE HERO THAT'S STILL UNSUNG " who has written :
* 250,000 people attended the Knebworth gig in 1996. That's special
* Over 2 million applied for tickets for that gig. That's special
* Oasis are still relevant around the world 14 years later. That's special.
* Oasis have had constant and several #1s in the charts. That's special.
* Oasis have inspired dozens of new mainstream bands. That's special.
* Oasis WERE the 90s. That's special.
* Oasis changed the way people talked and dressed (at their height). That's special.
* Oasis -helped- to change the musical scene in the UK
* Oasis have penned such majestic rock ballads that will stand the test of time - Live Forever and Slide Away to name just two.
I'm pretty sure we can swap Oasis name with Bon Jovi and/or The Rolling Stones and it still fits..
That's the truth..
* 250,000 people attended the Bon Jovi gig in 198X. That's special
* Over 2 million applied for tickets for that gig. That's special
* Bon Jovi are still relevant around the world 14 years later. That's special.
* Bon Jovi have had constant and several #1s in the charts. That's special.
* Bon Jovi have inspired dozens of new mainstream bands. That's special. (sic)
* Bon Jovi WERE the 80s. That's special.
* Bon Jovi changed the way people talked and dressed (at their height). That's special.
* Bon Jovi -helped- to change the musical scene in the world
* Bon Jovi have penned such majestic rock ballads that will stand the test of time - " XXXX " & " XXXXXX " (I don't wanna name Bon jovi songs before my Pizza) to name just two.
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Post by Beady’s Here Now on Jul 12, 2008 14:09:30 GMT -5
I'm 31 since march, Oasis fan since december 1994... and even if it's one of my fav band, I must confess that I start to consider them as my " Bon Jovi " / " Rolling Stones " kinda band... And for " THE HERO THAT'S STILL UNSUNG " who has written : * 250,000 people attended the Knebworth gig in 1996. That's special * Over 2 million applied for tickets for that gig. That's special * Oasis are still relevant around the world 14 years later. That's special. * Oasis have had constant and several #1s in the charts. That's special. * Oasis have inspired dozens of new mainstream bands. That's special. * Oasis WERE the 90s. That's special. * Oasis changed the way people talked and dressed (at their height). That's special. * Oasis -helped- to change the musical scene in the UK * Oasis have penned such majestic rock ballads that will stand the test of time - Live Forever and Slide Away to name just two. I'm pretty sure we can swap Oasis name with Bon Jovi and/or The Rolling Stones and it still fits.. That's the truth.. * 250,000 people attended the Bon Jovi gig in 198X. That's special * Over 2 million applied for tickets for that gig. That's special * Bon Jovi are still relevant around the world 14 years later. That's special. * Bon Jovi have had constant and several #1s in the charts. That's special. * Bon Jovi have inspired dozens of new mainstream bands. That's special. (sic) * Bon Jovi WERE the 80s. That's special. * Bon Jovi changed the way people talked and dressed (at their height). That's special. * Bon Jovi -helped- to change the musical scene in the world * Bon Jovi have penned such majestic rock ballads that will stand the test of time - " XXXX " & " XXXXXX " (I don't wanna name Bon jovi songs before my Pizza) to name just two. You proved my fucking point, well done. Yes, Bon Jovi WAS big and WAS special too. His music falls under rock, but it's different style than Oasis'......I don't like Bon Jovi, and I take it you don't either. But just because we don't like him doesn't negate the fact that he was massive. U2 is another really special band (whom I hate as well)..... I didn't say Oasis was the ONLY special band since the beatles..... |
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Post by Beady’s Here Now on Jul 12, 2008 14:12:42 GMT -5
PS Bon Jovi is NOT relevant 14 years later, not in the US, let alone the world!
Yeah, ok, he gets the odd chart hit (but that's not saying much when we're talking about the US charts!). He's cracked America, not the world. Oasis has cracked the world, not America. Which is more popular? hmmm....
No one gives a shit about Bon Jovi (anymore).
So your point is invalid further by stretching the truth.
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Post by TheEXPERIENCE on Jul 12, 2008 14:23:09 GMT -5
PS Bon Jovi is NOT relevant 14 years later, not in the US, let alone the world! Yeah, ok, he gets the odd chart hit (but that's not saying much when we're talking about the US charts!). He's cracked America, not the world. Oasis has cracked the world, not America. Which is more popular? hmmm.... No one gives a shit about Bon Jovi (anymore). So your point is invalid further by stretching the truth. WTF are you talking about? There's about to be riots in central park tonight because so many people wanna see their concert and they won't let more than 50,000 or so in. They also sell out stadiums when they go on tour... |
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Post by juaaaaaaaaaaaaaan on Jul 12, 2008 14:24:45 GMT -5
The Beatles will be regarded as important as Shakespeare and Beethoven when all is said and done, if they're not already by some people. What they did- not only for music- but for pop culture is and will continue to be unparalleled. No one will ever touch them. Having said that, I fucking love Oasis. They will always be my band. My reason for picking up a guitar, starting a band and keeping the faith. Amen |
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