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Post by noelliam3 on Jul 8, 2008 15:31:59 GMT -5
What does Noel mean by "groove-based" for this album?
.... Are we talking about an album full of Columbia's and Mucky Fingers'?
Or more along the lines of Let Forever Be and Setting Sun?
Or more of I Can See It Now and D'You Know What I Mean?
I guess I am confused as to what a groovy Oasis song actually sounds like? Does it mean beats and/or electronica and/or sampling?
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Post by Bloomfield on Jul 8, 2008 15:40:05 GMT -5
This has been covered many times... Mucky Fingers? That it the exact opposite of a groove... Noel is referring to more Stone Roses type rhythms... which in terms of Oasis would mean rhythms like Columbia, Go Let It Out etc... not choppy pogo songs or stop-start rhythms ... Obviously not grooves like Tower Of Power or Marvin Gaye... it's all within context, but Definitely Maybe was influenced a bit by the Madchester vibe, and we'll be getting some of that on this record.
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Post by Plantpot on Jul 8, 2008 15:42:54 GMT -5
You have asked the million dollar question. There is much speculation as to what Noel means by "groove based." This topic has been discussed rather feverishly throughout multiple threads on this forum. Every one seems to have an opinion on what the music may sound like. My opinion and others are posted in the "Groove based- I have a Bad feeling" thread. Cheers.
welcome to the forum!
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Post by TheFoolOnTheHill on Jul 8, 2008 15:44:04 GMT -5
it means groooviera, a good cheese  |
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Post by ellogovner on Jul 8, 2008 15:49:42 GMT -5
what i think noel means is songs a la LDSMD...
Which isnt necessarily a bad thing. Except at least two times as good as that song. Its rather repetitive and not hooky. Which is also probably what he means by the no singles comment...
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Post by Bloomfield on Jul 8, 2008 15:53:50 GMT -5
what i think noel means is songs a la LDSMD... Which isnt necessarily a bad thing. Except at least two times as good as that song. Its rather repetitive and not hooky. Which is also probably what he means by the no singles comment... Why would you think that? That's basically fast blues, and it's a shuffle... definitely not the groove thing their talking about. |
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Post by alliwantisthetruth on Jul 8, 2008 15:54:58 GMT -5
better man and hung in a bad place?
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Post by ellogovner on Jul 8, 2008 15:55:23 GMT -5
you dont think LDSMD has a groove?
I certainly think it does
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Post by joeyfrancis on Jul 8, 2008 16:01:08 GMT -5
LDSMD isn't groovy at all. The only song Noel has mentioned in relation to the new album is Columbia, and that is the most promising thing I have heard in a long time.
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Post by supersonic1983 on Jul 8, 2008 16:38:06 GMT -5
What does Noel mean by "groove-based" for this album?   |
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Post by TheEXPERIENCE on Jul 8, 2008 16:51:03 GMT -5
When I hear "grooves," I think Eyeball Tickler
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Post by ellogovner on Jul 8, 2008 18:53:05 GMT -5
Yeah eyeball tickler grooves.
To me groove = toe tapping.
If it gets my toes tapping, the thing grooves. So LDSMD certainly qualifies, and for example something like guess god thinks im abel really doesnt.
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Post by Cast on Jul 8, 2008 19:13:11 GMT -5
groove: Def. 3 a fixed routine
I'm think along the lines of Columbia, Go Let It Out, Gas Panic, Better Man, somewhat DYKWIM.
Not always a strong beat means groovy to be. Its gotta have a strong steady mid tempo beat with a strong bassline line. thats what it means to me at least. There's a difference between groovy and psychedelic music too I think but they can be combined.
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Post by quellophant on Jul 8, 2008 19:14:39 GMT -5
I thought who feels love was groovy! Definitely the drums and bass in it anyways, and that's what noel's talking about I think! |
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Post by Rock N' Roll Dad on Jul 8, 2008 20:10:03 GMT -5
Think Roses, and Doors ala Peace Frog...
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Post by mercury3164 on Jul 8, 2008 20:27:11 GMT -5
almost every tune on SOTSOG is groovy. Fuckin in the bushes, very groovy. Go Let It Out, groovy as hell. Who Feels Love?, very groovy. PYMWYMI, groovy. Little James, rubbish. Gas Panic!, groovy. WDIAGW, pretty groovy for a ballad/songy type song. SMC, exception. ICSAL, somewhat groovy. Roll It Over, nother exception.
other groovy oasis tunes? some examples...
-Columbia, groovy as fuck
-TUTS, very groovy
-Better Man, quite a groove
-Quick Peep, groovy
-Be Here Now, very groovy
-DYKWIM, groovy
-Cloudburst, get stuck in!
-TGITDS, somewhat groovy
-Hindu Times, pretty groovy, demo is very groovy
-Shakermaker, groovy baby
-Supersonic, good grooves
-See the Sun, good grooves/riffs
Groovy basically means anything that repeats A LOT. It doesn't change, because it doesn't need to, the groove is that strong. Being "in the groove" is where it comes from, which implies that you're staying within one or two riffs and that's all. When you hear a groovy tune you know it, you feel it in the back of your neck, and you just want to keep pumping it - groovy tunes are very much so focused most around the bass lines - think GLIO - when he yells for the bass to come in, and once it enters, that's a fuckin groove man. Songs like TUTS fit in well because (apart from the intro/outro breakdown) the tune is always the same, it is rockin' on that same riff. This is what groovy is. Noel got very obsessed with grooves for SOTSOG, but other than that has not done too much in the way of quality grooves.
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Post by Cast on Jul 8, 2008 20:37:01 GMT -5
Noel got very obsessed with grooves for SOTSOG, but other than that has not done too much in the way of quality grooves. I love that album so a second one would be mega. Just be smarter with the tracklisting this time |
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Post by The Boy Without the Blues on Jul 8, 2008 22:47:17 GMT -5
As I said in other thread, I think what noel means by groovy are strong base lines, since he said himself he wrote some new songs upon them.... we should expect something like 'Echoes Round The Sound' or 'Within You Without You', both had a really loud bass, which isn't typical of Oasis....
Noel also mentioned not being songy, I guess he means something like Mucky Fingers, without a specific chorus, or at least one that does not repeat....
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