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Post by rustedrain on Jul 5, 2008 1:05:58 GMT -5
is this true i read some paper said he was but Liam wasant?
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Post by Beady’s Here Now on Jul 5, 2008 1:40:47 GMT -5
Yes Noel is an athiest. He's said it in interviews I believe, but all the clues are in the songs:
"I never could pray cos it's just no good" - Idler's Dream
"But faith in any God is gonna bury us all" - Carry Us All
"You found your God in a paperback" - Mucky Fingers
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Post by mercury3164 on Jul 5, 2008 2:26:43 GMT -5
actually it's "you found your god in a paper bag"
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Post by Deleted on Jul 5, 2008 2:41:28 GMT -5
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Post by Beady’s Here Now on Jul 5, 2008 3:34:43 GMT -5
actually it's "you found your god in a paper bag" No it's not! Check the DBTT album book, the lyrics clearly state "PAPER BACK" Does paper bag even make sense to you? I doubt it. By PAPER BACK he means BIBLE - he's mocking the idea how people believe in God because of it being written down in a book, and he's right. |
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Post by oasisenda on Jul 5, 2008 4:04:47 GMT -5
Sorry but I hae to stick up for Mercury here. I remember Noel discussing those lyrics one time around the release of DBTT and he difinitely said paper bag. Also I wouldn't use Inet as a source for correct lyrics, in Stand by Me they list a lyric as "Said I would and i believe in one day before my heart starts to burn" when it most certainly is "Said I would and I'll be leaving one day before my heart starts to burn"
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Post by LlAM on Jul 5, 2008 4:31:32 GMT -5
Loads of their lyrics are wrong on Inet. |
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Post by Smige on Jul 5, 2008 5:10:02 GMT -5
I remember an interview in NME when he applauded Richard Dawkins for trying to disprove God.
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Post by Beady’s Here Now on Jul 5, 2008 5:21:01 GMT -5
Sorry but I hae to stick up for Mercury here. I remember Noel discussing those lyrics one time around the release of DBTT and he difinitely said paper bag. Also I wouldn't use Inet as a source for correct lyrics, in Stand by Me they list a lyric as "Said I would and i believe in one day before my heart starts to burn" when it most certainly is "Said I would and I'll be leaving one day before my heart starts to burn" Believe what you want. If you can make sense out of "paper bag" then credit to you. |
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Post by LDD- Angelic Child on Jul 5, 2008 5:38:25 GMT -5
It's 'paperback', now stop the bickering children.
It's nice to see that Noel has joined us.
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Post by Jonny on Jul 5, 2008 6:03:45 GMT -5
Haha who gives a flying fuck if it's bag or back. What a petty thing!
He is an atheist but I read somewhere that he "believes in a higher power/being".
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Post by Definitely Could Be Oasis on Jul 5, 2008 8:14:24 GMT -5
I always took god in a paper bag to mean alcoholism, like tramps carrying bottles of whiskey around in brown paper bags
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Post by checkwithmemum on Jul 5, 2008 8:28:42 GMT -5
I always took god in a paper bag to mean alcoholism, like tramps carrying bottles of whiskey around in brown paper bags exactly what I thought too. makes a lot of sense when you hear it that way too. and even if discredit that, finding it in a paperbag would mean that its trivial and what you have found is worth nothing, further supporting the atheism claims. Inet is shit for lyrics |
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Post by joeyfrancis on Jul 5, 2008 8:41:21 GMT -5
I always thought it was paper bag too. But both back or bag could make sense.
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Post by 32shutout on Jul 5, 2008 8:45:13 GMT -5
Around HC for some reason, a lot of lyrics started sounding religious or spiritual.
This interview is kind of weird, not sure what he's talking about, but it sure seems like he's talking about God.
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Post by ugadawg5 on Jul 5, 2008 9:32:06 GMT -5
What about the SMS lyric " Some Might Say they don't believe in heaven, go and tell it to the man who lives in Hell".
I don't think the intention is to mock religion there. Sounds like he's saying there's a heaven.
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Post by castlecraver on Jul 5, 2008 9:42:48 GMT -5
He is an atheist but I read somewhere that he "believes in a higher power/being". If so, then he's not an atheist. |
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Post by ShakeAlongWithMe on Jul 5, 2008 9:43:13 GMT -5
Around HC for some reason, a lot of lyrics started sounding religious or spiritual. This interview is kind of weird, not sure what he's talking about, but it sure seems like he's talking about God. luvin Noels acoustic version of THT |
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Post by bwilder on Jul 5, 2008 10:26:13 GMT -5
"Faith in the Lord is something I can never have, cause the Lord I know don't got no faith in me."-- Sister Lover (B-side to Stand By Me)
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Post by Bloomfield on Jul 5, 2008 10:27:38 GMT -5
This is stupid, but it is paper back. I have multiple live versions where you can more clearly hear him. People just go with what they think they hear and get used to it. Just like most people think in Don't Go Away it's: I don't want to be there when you hit the ground"... but it's "And I want to be there"...
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Post by nyr401994 on Jul 5, 2008 10:28:52 GMT -5
He is an atheist but I read somewhere that he "believes in a higher power/being". If so, then he's not an atheist. maybe he's like me (and christopher hitchens)... an antitheist. |
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Post by Let It Bleed on Jul 5, 2008 10:31:58 GMT -5
Godlike.
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Post by Columbus Egg on Jul 5, 2008 10:41:41 GMT -5
Look at the liner notes for the album. It's paperback. From Noel - "I'm very, very cynical toward (religion), and I think it's human nature to believe in something, but I can't believe that there's a God when Mr. George Bush claims to be on the side of God and Al-Qaeda claim to be on the side of God, and they're gonna blow up the f -- n' world. So to me, there is no God. Because if there was, now would be a pretty good time to give us a sign. ..." On the There And Then DVD, when Liam sings "Some might say they don't believe in heaven" he points to himself and says "Oh yeah!" There's also a celebrity athiest site with profiles on both of them, although it's under the "ambiguous" section: www.celebatheists.com/?title=Liam_Gallagherwww.celebatheists.com/?title=Noel_GallagherThere's been some tabloid stories about Liam taking his family to church and telling his kids not to swear, but that could be for all sorts of reasons ... probably still an athiest/agnostic whatever. |
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Post by Columbus Egg on Jul 5, 2008 10:47:30 GMT -5
He is an atheist but I read somewhere that he "believes in a higher power/being". If so, then he's not an atheist. I don't know how you'd figure that. The higher power doesn't necessarily have to be a god or gods. Not according to Alcoholics Anonymous, anyway ... it'd be interesting to think of Liam at an AA meeting, lol. It's possible one or both of them have fluctuated between having some form of belief and nothing. |
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Post by oasisenda on Jul 5, 2008 11:14:08 GMT -5
Sorry but I hae to stick up for Mercury here. I remember Noel discussing those lyrics one time around the release of DBTT and he difinitely said paper bag. Also I wouldn't use Inet as a source for correct lyrics, in Stand by Me they list a lyric as "Said I would and i believe in one day before my heart starts to burn" when it most certainly is "Said I would and I'll be leaving one day before my heart starts to burn" It could be paperback I'm not sure, you can take an understandable meaning from either. The point I was trying to make here is that for a so called official website Inet gets a lot of lyrics wrong!! |
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