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Post by Beady’s Here Now on Jun 29, 2008 11:27:27 GMT -5
Months ago, as we all know, Noel said that he wants to throw the kitchen sink at this album, even going as far as saying that he wants a full blown orchestra.
Last week he came out and said that the new album will be less sing-song, and have more "groove" to it
The recording process seems to have gone smoothly, and it doesn't seem like he had to change his mind between the two descriptions.
So can he still have an orchestra backed song but at the same time including a more groove-like sound? Can they both co-exist? Or has he changed his mind about the kitchen sink/orchestra comment?
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Post by 32shutout on Jun 29, 2008 11:41:13 GMT -5
D'You Know What I Mean?!!! From everything i've heard, i really hope the new single sounds like this. It's groovy as hell, and it has an orchestra!  |
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Post by jludlow on Jun 29, 2008 12:25:51 GMT -5
Good point just what i think. I cant see RM or STC on the album. Shame
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Post by The Boy Without the Blues on Jun 29, 2008 13:39:26 GMT -5
Yeah, good point... I think we may not see that orchestra so soon  |
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Post by castlecraver on Jun 29, 2008 14:33:23 GMT -5
Mojo mag has a cut quote from Noel on next months issue cover to the effect of "our new LP has no hits." (source: SCYHO)
So now I'm expecting SOTSOG II, unfortunately.
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Post by TheEXPERIENCE on Jun 29, 2008 14:37:47 GMT -5
Mojo mag has a cut quote from Noel on next months issue cover to the effect of "our new LP has no hits." (source: SCYHO) So now I'm expecting SOTSOG II, unfortunately. Neither does Sgt Pepper if it was released today. |
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Post by mercury3164 on Jun 29, 2008 14:40:22 GMT -5
i love SOTSOG so I would love to have another record akin to that one!
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Post by TheEXPERIENCE on Jun 29, 2008 14:41:40 GMT -5
I think they will have some orchestral arrangements on it. I mean when Gem called it trancy and psychedelic, the first thing I thought of was Whatever but sped up to like 150 bpm. I would be down for like a Viva la Vida-type orchestra (the song), but with that mindblowing guitar they used to flaunt so often.
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Post by henrod89 on Jun 29, 2008 15:41:58 GMT -5
D'You Know What I Mean?!!! From everything i've heard, i really hope the new single sounds like this. It's groovy as hell, and it has an orchestra! The article said that the new single is 'unmistakably Oasis'. It also said that it was the only one like that on the album. So I think that should answer your question. But it did sound like it will be one of the 'heavier' singles that they've released in a while . . . |
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Post by kenneth on Jun 29, 2008 16:08:49 GMT -5
I really hope they'll include a orchestra. And if the first single is anywhere near as good as D'you Know What I Mean?, I'll be fucking thrilled.
As for the "Our new LP has no hits" cover, it should be really interesting to read what they mean about that. Makes me think perhaps that this album ain't meant for the general masses. Like for example Little By Little was (It's sort of radio friendly). I doubt we'll hear songs like the aforementioned and Wonderwall on it. The fact that he said that the album will be less songy makes this more clear.
The song I'm looking forward to hear is the one that Noel described as The Stooges doing Fools Gold! I would think that will be a pretty groovy song.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 29, 2008 16:14:27 GMT -5
Mojo mag has a cut quote from Noel on next months issue cover to the effect of "our new LP has no hits." (source: SCYHO) So now I'm expecting SOTSOG II, unfortunately. Neither does Sgt Pepper if it was released today. It didn't even have any hits back in the 60s. No song from the entire album was released as a single; it's the epitome of an album that's meant to be an album. |
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Post by Beady’s Here Now on Jun 29, 2008 16:34:17 GMT -5
I had so much optimism for this album, and it's now been shot down within the last week. I'm starting to get concerned that we might end up with a shit album. I don't want fucking grooves, I want the once rumored BHN and DBTT mixed. I want STC, RM, and liked minded songs. Ugh.
but then again, everything is still true with what i've been saying - that the band is more passionate, focused, and mature than ever - so i'm sure it won't be a shit album. And who knows, it may still out to be awesome. I'm just growing a bit concerned now.....
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Post by Deleted on Jun 29, 2008 16:56:02 GMT -5
You worry too much.
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Post by ShakeAlongWithMe on Jun 29, 2008 17:21:48 GMT -5
oh oh so no kitchen sink?  |
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Post by Jonny on Jun 29, 2008 18:00:22 GMT -5
I'm expecting Better Man with strings. Never know, it could be good.
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Post by Bloomfield on Jun 29, 2008 18:10:24 GMT -5
D'You Know What I Mean?!!! From everything i've heard, i really hope the new single sounds like this. It's groovy as hell, and it has an orchestra! "D'You Know What I Mean?" isn't groovy... just because it has some wah guitar doesn't make it groovy... I suppose there are different opinions on what groovy is... the rhythm section in D'You Know What I Mean is choppy, almost the opposite of groovy... the closest Oasis have come to "groovy" would have been Columbia or Go Let It Out... but even then... When Noel talks about this record being more groove oriented I think it will be closer to the Stone Roses rhythmically than anything Oasis have done, so I honestly see a record that will sound new to us. But for those of you looking for anything like Definitely Maybe or Be Here Now, understand that the primary factors that went into making the "sound" of those records are no longer options... i.e. producer: (Owen Morris produced airy, raw recordings and everything was done on tape)... players: (Gem and Andy, are world class musicians who make Oasis sound much more focused and less raw, [which I consider to be a negative]...) equipment: Noel has switched from insane (sometimes almost bad sounding) Marshall stacks that made the songs sound rougher... now going for vintage Fender tone... much less rough sounding. Viva la Vida sounds incredible but the production isn't the sound I'm personally into... super dry, no reverb... everything perfectly separated and clean sounding... I love the reverby, airy, raw sound of 90's Oasis but DOYS will be done by Sardy, who's recordings sound very modern and much more "perfect sounding"... |
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Post by 32shutout on Jun 29, 2008 18:26:11 GMT -5
D'You know what i mean? isn't groovy... just because it has some wah guitar doesn't make it groovy... I suppose there are different opinions on what groovy is... the rhythm section in D'You Know What I Mean is choppy, almost the opposite of groovy... the closest Oasis have come to "groovy" would have been Columbia or Go Let It Out... but even then... When Noel talks about this record being more groove oriented I think it will be closer to the Stone Roses rhythmically than anything Oasis have done, so I honestly see a record that will sound new to us. I do think the rhythm sounds groovy on DYKWIM, but oh well. You clearly know more about music production than i do. I would be thrilled with some stone roses style grooves! |
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Post by inthesunshhiiiiine on Jun 29, 2008 18:28:59 GMT -5
I think Kasabian pulled off the orchestral groove to perfection on their second album, and it wouldn't be surprising seeing some Kasabian influence creeping given the closeness of the two bands the level of respect for one anothers music.
Very keen on hearing the Stone Roses influence going into some sort of production, the Fool's Gold with a Stooges ferociousness sounds awsome.
The general outlook on the new album is starting to feel considerably different to the various impressions we've gathered over the last while, but I'm still optimistic for a corker
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Post by ShakeAlongWithMe on Jun 29, 2008 18:30:33 GMT -5
D'You Know What I Mean?!!! From everything i've heard, i really hope the new single sounds like this. It's groovy as hell, and it has an orchestra! "D'You Know What I Mean?" isn't groovy... just because it has some wah guitar doesn't make it groovy... I suppose there are different opinions on what groovy is... the rhythm section in D'You Know What I Mean is choppy, almost the opposite of groovy... the closest Oasis have come to "groovy" would have been Columbia or Go Let It Out... but even then... When Noel talks about this record being more groove oriented I think it will be closer to the Stone Roses rhythmically than anything Oasis have done, so I honestly see a record that will sound new to us. But for those of you looking for anything like Definitely Maybe or Be Here Now, understand that the primary factors that went into making the "sound" of those records are no longer options... i.e. producer: (Owen Morris produced airy, raw recordings and everything was done on tape)... players: (Gem and Andy, are world class musicians who make Oasis sound much more focused and less raw, [which I consider to be a negative]...) equipment: Noel has switched from insane (sometimes almost bad sounding) Marshall stacks that made the songs sound rougher... now going for vintage Fender tone... much less rough sounding. Viva la Vida sounds incredible but the production isn't the sound I'm personally into... super dry, no reverb... everything perfectly separated and clean sounding... I love the reverby, airy, raw sound of 90's Oasis but DOYS will be done by Sardy, who's recordings sound very modern and much more "perfect sounding"... And unless the band became much more strict about the songs included, there will likely be a couple amateur sounding Liam songs. Also, the more Noel-sung songs, the more boring the record will feel. The last record had way too many and to put the demo of Mucky Fingers on without recording a real version was idiotic. Great post. No one has ever described it better than that - (exactly the way i feel too btw). i want the raw old reverby sounding that used to be definitive Oasis. It is to clean and cut now, and imo NOT Oasis. Noel said the kitchen sink - we all wanted the kitchen sink - seems hes gone back on that, sadly. |
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Post by ShakeAlongWithMe on Jun 29, 2008 18:41:16 GMT -5
Within You Without You - Best example of modern Oasis going back to the old recording ways - and doesnt it sound great!
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Post by caro on Jun 29, 2008 20:56:22 GMT -5
There's a duet with Jay-Z |
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Post by custodian on Jun 29, 2008 21:02:17 GMT -5
Very keen on hearing the Stone Roses influence going into some sort of production, the Fool's Gold with a Stooges ferociousness sounds awsome. Remember Noel in the NME before the last album came out? I think he said something along the lines of it being influenced by the Stone Roses, Dylan and the Stones' Satanic Majesties Request...I could only detect Dylan as an influence really. Perhaps some of the new songs were left off DBTT and are influenced by the SR and that Stones album. |
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Post by inthesunshhiiiiine on Jun 29, 2008 21:17:03 GMT -5
Very keen on hearing the Stone Roses influence going into some sort of production, the Fool's Gold with a Stooges ferociousness sounds awsome. Remember Noel in the NME before the last album came out? I think he said something along the lines of it being influeced by the Stones Roses, Dylan and the Stones' Satanic Majesties Request...I could only detect Dylan as an influence really. Perhaps some of the new songs were left off DBTT and are influenced by the SR and that Stones album. Very possible, although didn't he say that most songs, of his anyway, are pretty new and aren't left overs? Anyhow, I would be happy to see 'Begging You' type song, the Roses nailed it and it's booming with both grooves and a rocking vibe, anything like this and I'll be happy, although I don't want the entire album dominated by the grooves, one or two Noel sung anthemy songs would also be great. |
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Post by custodian on Jun 29, 2008 21:47:32 GMT -5
Very possible, although didn't he say that most songs, of his anyway, are pretty new and aren't left overs? He did. I think he mentioned 3 or 4 were written in the studio, but he's got 7 (I think?) on the album. Really curious to hear the single now, since Noel said the album's got no singles on it, but the few people who've heard it have said it's massive and sounds very much like classic Oasis. |
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Post by oasis6 on Jun 29, 2008 21:51:46 GMT -5
Very possible, although didn't he say that most songs, of his anyway, are pretty new and aren't left overs? He did. I think he mentioned 3 or 4 were written in the studio, but he's got 7 (I think?) on the album. Really curious to hear the single now, since Noel said the album's got no singles on it, but the few people who've heard it have said it's massive and sounds very much like classic Oasis. To me, Coldplay's Viva la Vida does not have any singles on it other than Violet Hill. Possible Cemeteries of London. But maybe DOYS will be like that in a way. |
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