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Post by ugottahavefun on Jun 17, 2008 12:53:22 GMT -5
If Oasis called it a day ie no more albums and one or two gigs a year, on the basis that Noel wanted to go solo...how gutted would you be? Personally I've always been a Noel fan, and I couldn't care less as long as it meant more of those intimate gigs and he'd be the biggest act in Britain also. Let's be honest some of the live gigs with Liam are shocking, and quite sad when you look back at Earls Court etc. Then again Liam would probably start doing the same thing which would lead onto another intriguing question...who would gem side with? Is being with Liam, Andy and Gem really fair on Noel. Only Liam was on a par with Noel for what he did, and now the voice is failing. When I heard Noel had only 6 tracks on this forthcoming album...that's an insult to the man. That means nearly half the album is from the underlings!! DM- All Noel = What a Result MG- All Noel = Back of the Net BHN- All Noel= Great Album SOTSOG- Noel + 1 Liam- Very Very Very Good HC- Noel + more LIam etc- Good DBTT- Noel and more Liam etc, Quite Good (how many times have you listened to it? I've only listened to it full through twice after playing it non-stop when it was released) Masterplan-All Noel (except 1) = awesome If Noel had written all the last three albums  ... yes he'd be under pressure, but that's when he's at his best. The current situation aint helping Noel folks!! Would you be more eagerly anticipating a Noel solo album ( only way now he'll write all the songs) or the new forthcoming album? |
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Post by caro on Jun 17, 2008 12:59:28 GMT -5
I'd be really really piss off if Oasis was calling it off and if all that was left was a solo effort from Noel... DM and MG are huge cos Noel wrote them AND Liam sang them  How can you overlook that detail I'm not a fan of Andy and Gem's songs though  They better impress me that time! |
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Post by 32shutout on Jun 17, 2008 13:44:35 GMT -5
As much as i love Andy's contributions on the last album, i too am getting quite upset w/ the situation of Noel only writing about half the album. He has literally never written a song i haven't loved. On the other hand, i don't like any of Gem's songs, and only songbird and BOADC from Liam. I think the perfect combination would be ten or so from Noel, and two or three from Andy  BTW, can someone answer me why Andy has a songwriting credit for the importance of Being idle. I've always wondered... |
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Post by TheEXPERIENCE on Jun 17, 2008 14:28:10 GMT -5
Couldn't disagree more. I think it's really made Oasis alot more diverse. Plus, Noel wasn't going to keep writing songs like that forever. He's a great songwriter, but most of those great songs were written years before they were released. I think he himself started to notice a drop off in his music, and probably made a smart decision IMO by allocating some more responsiblity to the other 3. Just think of how much worse the B-sides are now compared to the "glory days". While he still has the ability to write those great songs (SCYO, Gas Panic, POTQ, Roll It Over, TIOBI), he's had far more klunkers then he used to (Put Yer Money.., Sunday Morning Call, I Can See A Liar, She Is Love, Force of Nature). When you take Andy's best song, Gem's best song, and a couple of Liam's best tunes, you can avoid those couple of fillers. And you're crazy if you don't think Keep the Dream Alive, A Bell Will Ring, Love Like A Bomb, and Turn Up the Sun are better then the Noel B-sides that would've taken their place.
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Post by ugottahavefun on Jun 17, 2008 14:38:51 GMT -5
Couldn't disagree more. I think it's really made Oasis alot more diverse. Plus, Noel wasn't going to keep writing songs like that forever. He's a great songwriter, but most of those great songs were written years before they were released. I think he himself started to notice a drop off in his music, and probably made a smart decision IMO by allocating some more responsiblity to the other 3. Just think of how much worse the B-sides are now compared to the "glory days". While he still has the ability to write those great songs (SCYO, Gas Panic, POTQ, Roll It Over, TIOBI), he's had far more klunkers then he used to (Put Yer Money.., Sunday Morning Call, I Can See A Liar, She Is Love, Force of Nature). When you take Andy's best song, Gem's best song, and a couple of Liam's best tunes, you can avoid those couple of fillers. And you're crazy if you don't think Keep the Dream Alive, A Bell Will Ring, Love Like A Bomb, and Turn Up the Sun are better then the Noel B-sides that would've taken their place. SMC SIL and FON are hardly klunkers, and the lack of b-side quality could be a knock-on effect from the bands democracy. His aura within the band may've been rocked. Then again Full on, Heart of A Star, Shout it out Loud etc are b-sides that could've brought album greatness. |
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Post by 32shutout on Jun 17, 2008 14:55:49 GMT -5
Couldn't disagree more. I think it's really made Oasis alot more diverse. Plus, Noel wasn't going to keep writing songs like that forever. He's a great songwriter, but most of those great songs were written years before they were released. I think he himself started to notice a drop off in his music, and probably made a smart decision IMO by allocating some more responsiblity to the other 3. Just think of how much worse the B-sides are now compared to the "glory days". While he still has the ability to write those great songs (SCYO, Gas Panic, POTQ, Roll It Over, TIOBI), he's had far more klunkers then he used to (Put Yer Money.., Sunday Morning Call, I Can See A Liar, She Is Love, Force of Nature). When you take Andy's best song, Gem's best song, and a couple of Liam's best tunes, you can avoid those couple of fillers. And you're crazy if you don't think Keep the Dream Alive, A Bell Will Ring, Love Like A Bomb, and Turn Up the Sun are better then the Noel B-sides that would've taken their place. First off, i said i love both of Andy's songs from the last album, thought they were great. But i dont think ABWR or LLAB are better than any of the 'klunkers' you mentioned. Also, there's no question Noel's songwriting has dropped off since 98, however i still feel that even his weaker stuff is better than anything Liam or Gem have written, w/ the exception of the SB and BOADC. |
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Post by kenneth on Jun 17, 2008 14:57:16 GMT -5
Interesting topic. The way I see it:
As long as the tunes on the album is fucking great, I don't give a shit really who's written them. I do however want Liam to sing most of the songs on the album with Noel singing preferably one.
Back to the songs, I think Liam writes brilliant tunes! He comes second to Noel in terms of writing tunes. He may not write lyrical masterpieces, but he writes some really good pop songs. I can't wait to hear what his new songs will sound like. I really hope they will release The Boy With The Blues this time!
Also, I don't think it's any point of them going solo just for going solo. They're more popular together as Oasis, and if they want it, they could do like Noel did with his semi acoustic tour with Gem. When Noel talks of going solo, that means Liam has some work in the studio. I do however believe that Noel will do a lot more of the semi acoustic tours in the future though. Should be interesting to see.
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Post by adamhannah on Jun 18, 2008 2:31:33 GMT -5
I'd only support it if Liam goes bald. But seriously, if it has to happen, i'd accept and i'm sure noel solo would be great. But it could never match the feeling of standing in front of Liam Gallagher belting out Live Forever. Noel might be the man behind the tunes, but Liam is the messenger.
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Post by ugottahavefun on Jun 19, 2008 13:03:23 GMT -5
I'd only support it if Liam goes bald. But seriously, if it has to happen, i'd accept and i'm sure noel solo would be great. But it could never match the feeling of standing in front of Liam Gallagher belting out Live Forever. Noel might be the man behind the tunes, but Liam is the messenger. He may be a messenger, but then again I would've gave anything to hear Noel when he first played LIve Forever or wonderwall. |
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Post by Jonny on Jun 19, 2008 15:51:21 GMT -5
Oasis are a bit strange this way. If the others write songs the press'll say they're not as good as "Definatley Maybe". But if Noel wrote them all, they'd say "Every song sounds the same". Annoying.
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... yes he'd be under pressure, but that's when he's at his best. The current situation aint helping Noel folks!!
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