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Post by Beady’s Here Now on Jun 3, 2008 13:32:03 GMT -5
I would say Radiohead is the only English band more popular than Oasis at the moment. Coldplay is sinking in popularity and in ten years won't be looked upon as successful as either band. As for radio airplay, I feel bad for you guys in NY or anywhere that doesn't play them because Boston stations (92.9 and 101.7) play them all the time! I hear Champagne Supernova at least twice a week! And he's right, Coldplay are sinking. I've talked to all my friends (who like Coldplay, but arent their fav band so it's unbiased), and every single one said how horrible and disappointed they were with Violet Hills, and the song Viva...wasn't impressive either. A few of those friends have even said they doubt they'll even buy this new Coldplay album since X+Y sucked, and these 2 singles are not good enough The problem with Coldplay is that they're trying to be U2. Worldwide, i go as such: U2, Oasis, Coldplay.....Radiohead And i disagree, Radiohead arent more popular in the US than Oasis! What bollocks! --> Coldplay, Oasis, Radiohead |
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Post by bwilder on Jun 3, 2008 13:33:40 GMT -5
Oasis have way more fans (and I mean, true fans not fans-of-the-moment) than Coldplay in America. Put it into context- Oasis at Be Here Now sold way more albums than Coldplay sold of XY.
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Post by Beady’s Here Now on Jun 3, 2008 13:33:54 GMT -5
What are you fucking talking about? DBTT went in the US charts at #12, and was up there in the itunes charts too..... Viva la Vida the album hasn't come out yet. I'm talking about the SONG. Oasis have never had a song on the iTunes top 100 (in the US) Yes they have! Lyla cracked it I beleive. And if you check often enough in the rock section, you'll find the likes of Wonderwall, Champagne Supernova etc up there too..... |
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Post by bwilder on Jun 3, 2008 13:35:04 GMT -5
Plus, have you seen the new commercial with Coldplay? Disgustingly bad... "But that was back when I ruled the world..." Trash.
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Post by Beady’s Here Now on Jun 3, 2008 13:42:21 GMT -5
Wonderwall is currently #44 in the US itunes TOP ROCK SONGS....
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Post by start at the end on Jun 3, 2008 14:02:20 GMT -5
little off topic, but I always marvel at how that 97' rolling stone cover bares little resemblance to either gallagher...especially noel.
I think they used a convex stretch lens for that "wide" facial shot
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Post by TheEXPERIENCE on Jun 3, 2008 14:32:54 GMT -5
Wonderwall is currently #44 in the US itunes TOP ROCK SONGS.... Viva la Vida is the #1 song period. Obv I wish Oasis could even get on the top 100 pop sales chart, but they haven't had that popularity in more than a decade. Yea DBTT did better here than their last 2 albums, but go compare how Lyla did with how Coldplay new single is doing. How can you say they aren't more popular? They have the most popular song in the United States basically if you go buy the iTunes store and not the corrupt paid off radio stations. It makes me crazy when I talk to people around here in NYC who are just clueless about Oasis...And this isn't exactly a small place |
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Post by Beady’s Here Now on Jun 3, 2008 14:45:41 GMT -5
Wonderwall is currently #44 in the US itunes TOP ROCK SONGS.... Viva la Vida is the #1 song period. Obv I wish Oasis could even get on the top 100 pop sales chart, but they haven't had that popularity in more than a decade. Yea DBTT did better here than their last 2 albums, but go compare how Lyla did with how Coldplay new single is doing. How can you say they aren't more popular? They have the most popular song in the United States basically if you go buy the iTunes store and not the corrupt paid off radio stations. It makes me crazy when I talk to people around here in NYC who are just clueless about Oasis...And this isn't exactly a small place Who gives a fuck, mate? It seems to be an insult now to be top of the charts in the US....Britney Spears, Miley Cyrus, Fall Out Boy, Green Day....fuck off I'd rather have Oasis in the top 20 in the US keeping their sound, than altering it to irritating shit and be like the artists listed above just to make it. Charts mean nothing when you have pre-teen pop in the charts. You forget, the US is all about gimicks and fads, you have all these idiot 13 and 14 year olds buying all this shit, which skews the sales. Coldplay are no different. Oasis have a stronger, more mature following than Coldplay, and that's more important to me than a #1. |
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Post by jlzoasis on Jun 3, 2008 15:15:50 GMT -5
Plus, have you seen the new commercial with Coldplay? Disgustingly bad... "But that was back when I ruled the world..." Trash. agreed....I laughed hsyterically when I first saw it... |
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Post by Beady’s Here Now on Jun 3, 2008 15:34:20 GMT -5
Plus, have you seen the new commercial with Coldplay? Disgustingly bad... "But that was back when I ruled the world..." Trash. agreed....I laughed hsyterically when I first saw it... Now this is a quality advert. I fucking love it |
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Post by Clint on Jun 3, 2008 15:47:35 GMT -5
who cares whats popular? 50 cents popular.
most the music i listen to isn't popular. but its way better than what is.
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Post by Beady’s Here Now on Jun 3, 2008 15:58:15 GMT -5
The problem with people who care about this topic as such is that they're getting "popular" and "better" mixed up
Popular does not mean a band is better
Case and point - NSync, Backstreet Boys, etc....sold a ridiculous amount of albums between 1997 and 2000, where are they now? Who the fuck knows or cares. So in one sense, the boy bands were as popular as Oasis, but Oasis were the more important, and better band as history shows.
As long as Oasis keep selling out gigs in the US like MSG, and within a day at that too, then I consider them a huge success in the US. I think that should be the standard we judge them on - gig attendances - rather than album sales and chart positions, but those charts don't meaning anything nowadays, and they haven't since the mid-90s when music was taken more serioiusly. Now it's become a piss take - at least in the US
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Post by TheEXPERIENCE on Jun 3, 2008 19:29:03 GMT -5
How am I getting BETTER and POPULAR mixed up? I never said Coldplay and Radiohead were better...why would I? I simply pointed out their popularity is high and above Oasis in the US. Obv that doesn't mean shit except to the suits and I guess some fans. While it drives me insane to see the lack of noteriety for them here, I'd still rather it this way then a bunch of stupid girls running around singing Wonderwall not knowing a damn thing about the band. And yes the shit they play on the radio now makes me wanna scratch my eyes out and cry about what garbage is being produced. However, the question was where does Oasis rank among contemp UK rock bands and they simply aren't as big as Coldplay and Radiohead in America.
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Post by Beady’s Here Now on Jun 3, 2008 20:33:14 GMT -5
But who cares if they are big in America or not? Worldwide they are huge, and have been since day 1.
They have already cemented their place along side the likes of U2, something that Coldplay have yet to achieve imo
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Post by Mogly on Jun 3, 2008 21:03:54 GMT -5
But who cares if they are big in America or not? Worldwide they are huge, and have been since day 1. well, this thread is about Oasis and America so... |
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Post by brumoscardo on Jun 3, 2008 23:20:39 GMT -5
who cares whats popular? 50 cents popular. most the music i listen to isn't popular. but its way better than what is. exactly, have you guys seen mtv lately? sometimes I think the US only cares about hip hop. And maybe that's why everyone got upset when Noel put Jay-z in his place. |
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Post by adamhannah on Jun 4, 2008 3:38:14 GMT -5
If its anything like in Australia, there's not much promo and no radio at all. In the last 5 years i think ive heard wonderwall maybe 3 or 4 times. No one even knows of Live Forever really. They just rely on the fanbase thats already there.
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Post by TheEXPERIENCE on Jun 4, 2008 12:38:31 GMT -5
But who cares if they are big in America or not? The whole point of this thread is that topic. If you don't wanna talk about it, then don't post in here. I can't stand when I read the whole "who really cares if they are popular in America"...Obviously a lot of fans (including myself) believe they deserve to have that popularity. Now it's obviously not the be all and end all (especially in a corrupt/greedy business like the music industry)...but YES IT DOES MEAN SOMETHING. Otherwise we wouldn't talk about it so much. So if you're gonna respond to this, please bring a little more to the table then "Who really cares?" |
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Post by paceoasisstc on Jun 6, 2008 10:42:18 GMT -5
Oasis' upcoming album won't outsell Coldplay's but I have a hunch it'll definitely be a better overall album.
In my area of the USA the rankings of popularity between the three aforementioned bands are Coldplay - Radiohead - Oasis.. unfortunately. Oasis is only known here for Wonderwall, CS, and rarely DLBIA.
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Post by Beady’s Here Now on Jun 6, 2008 11:08:25 GMT -5
Oasis' upcoming album won't outsell Coldplay's but I have a hunch it'll definitely be a better overall album. In my area of the USA the rankings of popularity between the three aforementioned bands are Coldplay - Radiohead - Oasis.. unfortunately. Oasis is only known here for Wonderwall, CS, and rarely DLBIA. It will outsell Coldplay's overall, though |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 7, 2008 3:32:36 GMT -5
Oasis' upcoming album won't outsell Coldplay's but I have a hunch it'll definitely be a better overall album. In my area of the USA the rankings of popularity between the three aforementioned bands are Coldplay - Radiohead - Oasis.. unfortunately. Oasis is only known here for Wonderwall, CS, and rarely DLBIA. Over here it's Coldplay and then "who the fuck are radiohead and oasis?" Then again, most people I know have shit taste in music, so I can't blame em. |
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Post by Beady’s Here Now on Jun 7, 2008 3:39:48 GMT -5
Oasis' upcoming album won't outsell Coldplay's but I have a hunch it'll definitely be a better overall album. In my area of the USA the rankings of popularity between the three aforementioned bands are Coldplay - Radiohead - Oasis.. unfortunately. Oasis is only known here for Wonderwall, CS, and rarely DLBIA. Over here it's Coldplay and then "who the fuck are radiohead and oasis?" Then again, most people I know have shit taste in music, so I can't blame em. But once again, who cares? It doesn't matter. Every one knows the Backstreet Boys, and no one knows The Stone Roses. Does that mean anything? Of course it doesn't. But at the end of the day, The Stone Roses have made a mark on music, the BSB have not. People are entitled to like what they want, but the fact is that no matter what the current popularity level of either Coldplay or Oasis are, Oasis will go down in history as one of the best and MOST IMPORTANT bands of the late 20th century/early 21st century, while Coldplay will be forgotten about. So who gives a fuck that some 14 year old girl is irritatingly screaming at the fact that she can see Chris Martin whine his way through Fix You, or whatever? Oasis' legacy will outlast Coldplay. What more could we possibly want? |
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Post by kenneth on Jun 7, 2008 5:26:10 GMT -5
Oasis' legacy will outlast Coldplay. What more could we possibly want? Your right! Oasis has set an really important mark on the British music scene! They will always be remembered for that. Coldplay will just be remembered as just another British band who had a bit of a success. I do believe that legacy is more important than good record sales in the US. |
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Post by 32shutout on Jun 7, 2008 9:49:42 GMT -5
Somebody mentioned green day a ways back, and i think that's the best example around that if you have the songs, it doesn't matter how forgotten you've become, you can have a number 1 album. I dont know much about green day, but i dont think they had any real success since the mid 90's. But they put out a great album, and that's all that matters, it went to number 1. I have no doubts oasis could do the same.
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Post by TheEXPERIENCE on Jun 7, 2008 9:55:06 GMT -5
Somebody mentioned green day a ways back, and i think that's the best example around that if you have the songs, it doesn't matter how forgotten you've become, you can have a number 1 album. I dont know much about green day, but i dont think they had any real success since the mid 90's. But they put out a great album, and that's all that matters, it went to number 1. I have no doubts oasis could do the same. It got to #1 because Boulevard of Broken Dreams and Wake Me Up When September Ends got tons of top 40 airplay. Without that, it would've wound up like their 2 albums had. instead, it opened up a door to a whole new generation of music fans who were too young for Green Day in the mid 90's. |
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