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Post by checkwithmemum on May 29, 2008 8:34:51 GMT -5
I disagree.....firstly, Noel has said that a wonderwall relates to him and his childhood memory yes but to an outsider/casual fan they would think it is something about a girl/loved one. It just helps when people hear that and they are basically given the opportunity to think that the song is about them and they are Liam/Noel's lover (whoever is singing it at that point) |
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Post by Mogly on May 29, 2008 8:36:00 GMT -5
^^^^^^
radiohead came in at no.1 with In rainbows because it was released on jan. 1 when no new albums come out and sales are very low. In 2005 DBTT sold 68k in its first week, I remember Muse or some band like that selling under 50k and reaching no.4. It's all about the week they release the album...
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Post by Deleted on May 29, 2008 10:14:44 GMT -5
A drummer and a record deal would help.
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Post by LlAM on May 29, 2008 10:53:13 GMT -5
A drummer and a record deal would help. Not much a drummer could do, as the album is finished. Unless he buys 60,000 copies of the album of course. |
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Post by Deleted on May 29, 2008 13:10:40 GMT -5
A drummer and a record deal would help. Not much a drummer could do, as the album is finished. Unless he buys 60,000 copies of the album of course. If they still had Starkey and Ringo on their side... |
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Post by redlandsman87 on May 29, 2008 14:11:00 GMT -5
Wait....have Oasis EVER gotten a #1 in the US? I think the only one they've gotten was with Wonderwall...
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Post by start at the end on May 29, 2008 14:47:50 GMT -5
Wait....have Oasis EVER gotten a #1 in the US? I think the only one they've gotten was with Wonderwall... Sorry, but I'm almost certain that Wonderwall didn't go number 1 in the U.K. or the U.S. I think its their only top ten hit here in the states at #8. It did go number one in the "modern rock" chart though I think. We're talking LP sales anyway mate. |
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Post by start at the end on May 29, 2008 14:50:32 GMT -5
Does anybody here think a couple of rocking singles (see LYLA explanation) preceding the album release would at least garner a top 10 or (gasp) top FIVE placing?!
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Post by kenneth on May 29, 2008 15:41:34 GMT -5
I think they could have gone a long way if they released Love Like A Bomb as the second single. Both in the U.S, U.K and the rest of the world. It's just what would've been perfect to follow up Lyla with.
I mean, when random people hear The Importance Of Being Idle, I'm not even sure they know it's an Oasis song. But with Love Like A Bomb, they would've recognized the voice from Wonderwall. I really think this would've been a major difference as a second single. It's such an easy listening pop song to.
I'm not saying that The Importance Of Being Idle is a bad son. Quite the contrary, it really is my favorite from Don't Believe The Truth, but as a second single, it's not commercial enough. And if Oasis wants higher record sales, they need to take this into consideration.
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Post by start at the end on May 29, 2008 17:05:15 GMT -5
I think they could have gone a long way if they released Love Like A Bomb as the second single. Both in the U.S, U.K and the rest of the world. It's just what would've been perfect to follow up Lyla with. I mean, when random people hear The Importance Of Being Idle, I'm not even sure they know it's an Oasis song. But with Love Like A Bomb, they would've recognized the voice from Wonderwall. I really think this would've been a major difference as a second single. It's such an easy listening pop song to. I'm not saying that The Importance Of Being Idle is a bad son. Quite the contrary, it really is my favorite from Don't Believe The Truth, but as a second single, it's not commercial enough. And if Oasis wants higher record sales, they need to take this into consideration. I was saying the same thing...it was a perfect 3 minute, breezy summer tune...shame it wasn't all over the radio stateside. I think a lot of "oasis" fans undersell that ditty for one reason or another. Sometimes I think that if it had been authored by Noel it would receive much more praise. Agreed..a "Lyla" and "LLAB" this summer would put them in fine fiddle for a September release. |
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Post by MEANSTREAK on May 29, 2008 18:24:50 GMT -5
i think LLAB is awesome, especially when the piano breaks in
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Post by jlzoasis on May 29, 2008 19:04:33 GMT -5
Wait....have Oasis EVER gotten a #1 in the US? I think the only one they've gotten was with Wonderwall... Nah they haven't Be Here Now was the closest only 800 units sold out of #1 in 1997 (What the Story) Morning Glory? Only reached #4 on the billboard charts. Wonderwall #8 Don't Look Back in Anger #10 Modern Rock Charts: Wonderwall #1 Champagne Supernova #1 |
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Post by nyr401994 on May 29, 2008 21:27:45 GMT -5
what would it take? you guys mean some publicity? yeah, that'll be the day...
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Post by pnw13 on May 29, 2008 22:46:31 GMT -5
Marketing, marketing, and more marketing... this is the USA.
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Post by shoofee on Jun 3, 2008 10:14:01 GMT -5
It would take one thing.
A massive fucking single.
That's all it would take. One song that completely sells itself, ala Wonderwall did. Wonderwall catapulted WTSMG to the place it got, the buzz they achieved from that propelled BHN up. A song that everyone likes, all age groups, crosses genre boundaries, etc.
Marketing is a key component, but the #1 thing that Oasis would need to drive an album to the top is a massive single.
That, or a cold day in hell, because its just never going to happen.
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Post by webm@ster on Jun 3, 2008 10:32:05 GMT -5
That, or a cold day in hell, because its just never going to happen. hey , not so fast. what about a reality show on MTV  |
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Post by bwilder on Jun 3, 2008 12:29:25 GMT -5
Jenny, you are spot on with the info. And pnw13, you are absolutely correct about marketing. That's all it would take for a #1.
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Post by joeyfrancis on Jun 3, 2008 21:03:47 GMT -5
I think in order for the album to go number one, it would need a massive single to come out before the album. That way, everything could be channeled into the first week.
I don't think this is particularly likely though.
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Post by start at the end on Jun 4, 2008 7:36:47 GMT -5
While I agree that a massive single would be of great benefit, I still think it would take a couple "pre-released" big tunes. Oasis just isn't Coldplay over here and it'll take more than one song to put em at #1...although I think a huge tune would guarantee them a top 10 and make a top 5 much more likely. The jump to a number one LP in the states is quite a chasmic leap from a top 5/10...theres always a couple of massive releases every week or so that make it extremely difficult (ESPECIALLY for a band like Oasis that routinley seems to miss the limelight over here one reason or another) for competing acts to have a shot at number 1.
This time I think this huge release could be Metallica (btw if they happen to be in the same week (oasis and metallica) you can forget a number one- regardless of how big of a single {or singles} they have going).
I mean Lyla wasn't exactly "huge" but it did pretty damn well nationally as far as the rock charts and air-play and DBTT "just" got to 12 in a rather competitively undewhelming release week.
One's great, 2 would cinch it imo.
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Post by start at the end on Jun 4, 2008 7:46:55 GMT -5
you can also bet that the minor rebirth with DBTT will definitely spur along sales in the states...certainly more than the last 3 lp's.
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Post by TheEXPERIENCE on Jun 4, 2008 12:55:40 GMT -5
I mean Lyla wasn't exactly "huge" but it did pretty damn well nationally as far as the rock charts and air-play and DBTT "just" got to 12 in a rather competitively undewhelming release week. While it ruined Wonderwall for alot of people, I think Oasis needs a catchy-top 40 friendly hit if they want to re-launch themselves here. You can only do so much without being able to cross-over to other charts here in the US. That's why while Radiohead has a HUGE fan base here, they don't receive much airplay. Oasis has always had that unique ability to be a rock & roll band, yet still have that catchy sing-along sound. Green Day disappeared for like 10 years from top 40 radio and all of a sudden American Idiot launched them back into the spotlight. But it took them being played on those top 40 stations for it to happen. So while I despise top 40 radio and haven't listened to z100 since 04 maybe, I think it's crucial to get some airplay on there. I mean if it wasn't for top 40, you could cut the people in the US who know about Oasis in half because they never would've even heard Wonderwall. |
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Post by start at the end on Jun 5, 2008 21:22:40 GMT -5
I mean Lyla wasn't exactly "huge" but it did pretty damn well nationally as far as the rock charts and air-play and DBTT "just" got to 12 in a rather competitively undewhelming release week. While it ruined Wonderwall for alot of people, I think Oasis needs a catchy-top 40 friendly hit if they want to re-launch themselves here. You can only do so much without being able to cross-over to other charts here in the US. That's why while Radiohead has a HUGE fan base here, they don't receive much airplay. Oasis has always had that unique ability to be a rock & roll band, yet still have that catchy sing-along sound. Green Day disappeared for like 10 years from top 40 radio and all of a sudden American Idiot launched them back into the spotlight. But it took them being played on those top 40 stations for it to happen. So while I despise top 40 radio and haven't listened to z100 since 04 maybe, I think it's crucial to get some airplay on there. I mean if it wasn't for top 40, you could cut the people in the US who know about Oasis in half because they never would've even heard Wonderwall. A very reasonable viewpoint, to be sure. |
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Post by ducci on Jun 7, 2008 14:53:53 GMT -5
They need to promot the new album better! Maybe a corporate sponser would help as well. It may sound like selling-out but thats how the music industry is these days. Buy in or move over
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