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Post by oasiscam on May 14, 2008 21:50:54 GMT -5
I find it amazing how everyone is jumping up and down about Zak leaving the band. As Noel said in 2004 zak will be with us until we find a replacement drummer he has commitments with the Who. Alan has had a 4 year rest and if Noel doesn't have the guts to call Alan back if he does want to come back it's beyond me. Alan would be refreshed now and if his hands are ok bring him back it's a shame we lost him in the first place but it would be fantastic him returning It would make the news big time i can see it now OASIS DRUMMER RETURNS TO THE BIGGEST BAND IN ENGLAND COME ON  |
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Post by mercury3164 on May 14, 2008 22:08:26 GMT -5
i prefer alan's drumming style and i wish he would be back that would be awesome...
...but it ain't gonna happen.
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Post by ToneBender on May 14, 2008 22:18:56 GMT -5
Is there a particular reason you don't know how to spell his name?
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Post by 32shutout on May 14, 2008 22:23:13 GMT -5
When i listen to BHN and MG, i just don't see how people can criticize Whitey when compared to the dull, simple drumming on DBTT. it shocks me when people say Zak was the best drummer oasis has ever had. Maybe he is more musical, but i far prefer White
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Post by Marcos on May 14, 2008 22:34:07 GMT -5
When i listen to BHN and MG, i just don't see how people can criticize Whitey when compared to the dull, simple drumming on DBTT. it shocks me when people say Zak was the best drummer oasis has ever had. Maybe he is more musical, but i far prefer White that's a good point Allan was great from 1995 until 2000 after that i think he got bored or something.. |
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Post by Cast on May 14, 2008 22:42:35 GMT -5
When i listen to BHN and MG, i just don't see how people can criticize Whitey when compared to the dull, simple drumming on DBTT. it shocks me when people say Zak was the best drummer oasis has ever had. Maybe he is more musical, but i far prefer White that's a good point Allan was great from 1995 until 2000 after that i think he got bored or something.. I would be bored to if i had to play to loops. My understanding is that Noel put in the loops and Alan played to them not them adding loops over alan. Great drummer love to see this happen but it won't happen |
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Post by nyr401994 on May 14, 2008 22:54:45 GMT -5
NOT. GONNA. HAPPEN.
it ain't 1996, people.
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Post by mytwocents on May 15, 2008 3:19:56 GMT -5
Alan style became more lazy and dull since 1997. I loved his style in the WTSMG era, but Familiar to millions his painful because of the drumming.
Zak had a total different style, more "dry" and simple, I liked it after some times, even if I prefer a more rich drumming.
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Post by dearprudence on May 15, 2008 11:20:40 GMT -5
I love Zak's Drumming, best drummer in oasis... hope the recordings of album seven has zak drums (judging by the picture it is that way)  ... is a shame he never wanted to be full time member Alan was good also, but he ain't coming back |
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Post by 32shutout on May 15, 2008 12:01:42 GMT -5
Prudence, is that a pic of liam's bedroom  |
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Post by Way Cool Jr. on May 15, 2008 17:05:16 GMT -5
this is a stupid thread, not a fucking chance
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Post by Beatle Matt on May 27, 2008 13:25:06 GMT -5
I find it amazing how everyone is jumping up and down about Zak leaving the band. As Noel said in 2004 zak will be with us until we find a replacement drummer he has commitments with the Who. ...but Oasis did ask Zak to be a "full member" last year and he said No because of his Who thing. |
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Post by Elan Morin Tedronai on May 31, 2008 6:13:32 GMT -5
No, Alan White didn't got bored. He had become increasingly unhappy to see his drumming get tuned down in the prevalence of drum loops, that's all. And he wanted to patch up the things with his girlfriend. Shaky personal life and dissatisfaction of studio contribution seem to me as a pretty big reasons for a departure of the band.
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Post by Clint on Jun 3, 2008 18:03:19 GMT -5
oasis would be a boring band to play with. noel telling you exactly what to play and whatnot... i guess its not like that anymore, but still, too formulatic.
it would have sucked being bonehead/guigs/alan
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Post by The Boy Without the Blues on Jun 3, 2008 19:33:29 GMT -5
oasis would be a boring band to play with. noel telling you exactly what to play and whatnot... i guess its not like that anymore, but still, too formulatic. it would have sucked being bonehead/guigs/alan Once Zak told about how skeptical the whole band was, like they knew exactly how they would like the drumming... it's probably boring, but I don't think Bonehead and Guigsy would do much different... but it's a really shame if they did that to zak, gem and andy, cos' they are so talented... |
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Post by Clint on Jun 3, 2008 20:16:01 GMT -5
yeah.
noel's approach to music pisses me off
but i love his acoustic songs
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Post by brumoscardo on Jun 3, 2008 23:26:10 GMT -5
Alan didnt get bored, he simply lost interest. and Noel would call himself a fool to make a call and ask him to rejoin the band.
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Post by King Blougaredoc on Jun 4, 2008 2:56:49 GMT -5
Wow, it would be terrible if i were in Oasis earning millions a year, yeah, Noel is a conservative monster.
Funk off vaginas
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Post by dearprudence on Jun 5, 2008 9:20:17 GMT -5
When i listen to BHN and MG, i just don't see how people can criticize Whitey when compared to the dull, simple drumming on DBTT. it shocks me when people say Zak was the best drummer oasis has ever had. Maybe he is more musical, but i far prefer White yep man , zak s the best.. |
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Post by TheEXPERIENCE on Jun 5, 2008 14:49:10 GMT -5
When i listen to BHN and MG, i just don't see how people can criticize Whitey when compared to the dull, simple drumming on DBTT. it shocks me when people say Zak was the best drummer oasis has ever had. Maybe he is more musical, but i far prefer White yep man , zak s the best.. I think Alan's style suited them a little better. I disagree that the drumming on DBTT was simple and dull. LLIAB, TIOBI, POTQ all have amazing drum tracks that I don't think Alan could've matched. |
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Post by mattstephens1988 on Jun 5, 2008 15:48:11 GMT -5
You were saying the reason Alan left the band was partly due to his drum tracks being low in the mix and replaced by loops, it doesn't surprise me at all. There's so much editing done to drum tracks nowadays (such as Beat Detective covering up timing errors and drum replacement where snare and kick sounds are being overdubbed with sampled snares and kicks) that it seems drums are becoming more and more obsolete in the studio, the only purpose of drummers nowadays is to play the songs live on tours.
It's a shame, I long for the good old days when music wasn't all so false.
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Post by TheEXPERIENCE on Jun 5, 2008 15:54:49 GMT -5
You were saying the reason Alan left the band was partly due to his drum tracks being low in the mix and replaced by loops, it doesn't surprise me at all. There's so much editing done to drum tracks nowadays (such as Beat Detective covering up timing errors and drum replacement where snare and kick sounds are being overdubbed with sampled snares and kicks) that it seems drums are becoming more and more obsolete in the studio, the only purpose of drummers nowadays is to play the songs live on tours. It's a shame, I long for the good old days when music wasn't all so false. I'm with you there man. I don't think I've heard natural drums on a top 40 station in a good 3 years. What's happening is everybody is going to hip hop producers for their albums. And of course all they do is sample from actually musicians and add some obnoxious drum machine that you can move to in a club. It's just disgusting where we've gone with music. There's only a handful of real bands out there that use the new state of the art technology (as far as sampling and sequencers, drum machines, synths, etc...) in an innovative way and not as a shortcut as it's basically all become. The late 70's and 80's were full of it but atleast it was still somewhat innovative and original even though so many of them did it. I wish music could've stayed like it was from 90-95 forever. Even rap was good then. IDK I just fuckin hate the way it is now |
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Post by 32shutout on Jun 5, 2008 17:10:49 GMT -5
yep man , zak s the best.. I think Alan's style suited them a little better. I disagree that the drumming on DBTT was simple and dull. LLIAB, TIOBI, POTQ all have amazing drum tracks that I don't think Alan could've matched. POTQ is great, and IOBI is interesting as well (though a little too similar to 'for the benefit of mr. kite'). but besides those 2 tracks, none of the drums on DBTT seem very interesting to me. |
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Post by themanwithnoname on Jun 10, 2008 3:35:05 GMT -5
Whoever is on the kit this time round, Sardy needs to turn the f*cking drums up.
Compare and contrast the drums on Definitely Maybe to DBTT, there is no comparison.
Tunes like Keep The Dream Alive would have been monumental with a decent drum sound, don't understand why they keep them so low in the mix these days.
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Post by Jazzvi on Jun 10, 2008 4:48:19 GMT -5
Whoever is on the kit this time round, Sardy needs to turn the f*cking drums up. Compare and contrast the drums on Definitely Maybe to DBTT, there is no comparison. Tunes like Keep The Dream Alive would have been monumental with a decent drum sound, don't understand why they keep them so low in the mix these days. i think it's all about trends. in the late 80's early 90's the drums were hard and high in the mix (pixies, dinosaur jr, nirvana, oasis...). these days the producers tend to lower the drums. of course there are a lot of exceptions to this but i think it's quite generalized. as for definitely maybe, i think the drums are quite shitty compared to morning glory and be here now. i don't know why, but they don't sound good to me. they sound thin and flat (except for supersonic). |
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