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Post by djbrades on Feb 6, 2005 11:39:50 GMT -5
Hey guys, I'm just wondering, what the hell does the phrase "Magic Pie" mean? Ha, I don't get it??
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Post by LDD- Angelic Child on Feb 6, 2005 12:53:31 GMT -5
I absolutely love the song to bits and love to play it but you can't perform it live because nobody takes the 'Magic Pie' part seriously... it's a shame because it's such a cool song
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Post by shakrmakr on Feb 6, 2005 12:57:08 GMT -5
I also like the song alot and love playing it on guitar. i think it is drug reference of magic mushrooms or something.
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Post by Wireless on Feb 6, 2005 12:58:34 GMT -5
I remember hearing one time that Noel got it confused with something else in a ryhming dictionary, I might be wrong though
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Post by dixonhill on Feb 6, 2005 13:32:05 GMT -5
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Post by caro on Feb 6, 2005 13:50:37 GMT -5
;D a new thign we didn't know about noel: he loves cooking pies and cakes  |
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Post by Plantpot on Feb 6, 2005 15:03:59 GMT -5
what actually happened was noel read the word "magpie" and wrote it down as "magic pie;" Purely a grammatical error... sort of like his error with the title "Standing on the Shoulder of Giants."
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Post by Deleted on Feb 6, 2005 15:16:08 GMT -5
dont know what it means but love the tune
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Post by LDD- Angelic Child on Feb 6, 2005 15:17:32 GMT -5
what actually happened was noel read the word "magpie" and wrote it down as "magic pie;" Purely a grammatical error... sort of like his error with the title "Standing on the Shoulder of Giants." ...not bad seeing as he's dyslexic if Standing on the Shoulder of Giants was that much of an error surely somebody would have spotted it and told him? |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 6, 2005 15:24:00 GMT -5
...not bad seeing as he's dyslexic if Standing on the Shoulder of Giants was that much of an error surely somebody would have spotted it and told him? if i remember correct it was pointed out to him but he decided to stick with lp title ,,i remember him saying somethin to that effect in nme |
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Post by Dominic on Feb 6, 2005 15:57:13 GMT -5
my 2 theroys
i) magic pie simialar to space cake
ii) some people talk about getting the cake , ie something they want , this one makes sence to me cus of the line "ive got my magic pie"
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Post by belgallagher on Feb 6, 2005 15:59:29 GMT -5
;D a new thign we didn't know about noel: he loves cooking pies and cakes ;D ;D |
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Post by Wireless on Feb 6, 2005 17:27:57 GMT -5
ii) some people talk about getting the cake , ie something they want , this one makes sence to me cus of the line "ive got my magic pie" Going with that theory..... The next line is "..... Yeah that was me I was that passer by, I’ve been and now I’ve gone" This COULD be interpreted as him saying ive had my time, ive lived the life. now its somebody else's turn. But its probably a load of bollox  ;D |
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Post by marxistlennonist9 on Mar 4, 2008 22:16:50 GMT -5
Personally, I think the term "magic pie" is refering to wealth. Noel Gallagher has always showed disdain for middle class England. The song probably has some message about drugs too since that was the concept for the album BE HERE NOW and in the live version noel adds the lyrics "still getting high" at the end of one of the choruses.
also, in the chorus, the second stanza "that was me I was the passer by Ive been but now I've gone" probably means through out his life he's ignorned being jealous, or trying to be like the upper class, but he became like that trough his success with Oasis and hes done with that life style now.
this song is similar in nature to the concept of Weezer's song "hash pipe". Therefore, in essence, he's probably saying the middle class always have their wealth and good life, but he has his drugs.
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Post by eyebrowasis on Mar 4, 2008 23:58:52 GMT -5
Could be inspired by the tale that Lennon told about the pie and naming the Beatles. From Wiki: Lennon, who was well known for giving multiple versions of the same story, joked in a 1961 Mersey Beat magazine article that "It came in a vision — a man appeared on a flaming pie and said unto them, 'From this day on you are Beatles with an A'"
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Post by nyr401994 on Mar 5, 2008 2:17:54 GMT -5
Could be inspired by the tale that Lennon told about the pie and naming the Beatles. From Wiki: Lennon, who was well known for giving multiple versions of the same story, joked in a 1961 Mersey Beat magazine article that "It came in a vision — a man appeared on a flaming pie and said unto them, 'From this day on you are Beatles with an A'" a flaming pie is different from a magic pie. ask mccartney. |
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Post by themanwithnoname on Mar 5, 2008 3:02:18 GMT -5
McCartney had just released his 'Flaming Pie' album too.
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Post by eyebrowasis on Mar 5, 2008 12:45:35 GMT -5
Haha, I didn't even realize it was the same year.
Flaming Pie + Noel's brain + massive drug intake = Magic Pie???
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Post by startclocks on Mar 5, 2008 16:41:21 GMT -5
"There are but a thousand days preparing for a thousand years". Around the time BHN was released, there were just under a thousand days left until the year 2000.
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Post by kenneth on Mar 5, 2008 16:45:23 GMT -5
"There are but a thousand days preparing for a thousand years". Around the time BHN was released, there were just under a thousand days left until the year 2000. Wasn't that taken from a speech by Tony Blair? |
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Post by startclocks on Mar 5, 2008 17:26:27 GMT -5
That's cool I just read the wikipedia entry for the song and found that out. Thanks.
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Post by 32shutout on Jun 6, 2008 16:57:25 GMT -5
Thought i'd bring this thread up again instead of starting a new one-
I just adore this song, and everything about it. I think the lyrics are fantastic by any standard
"An extraordinary guy can never have an ordinary day"
"Those who don't say what they mean will live and die by their own swords"
I think the chords and melody are creative, and even the chorus feels majestic.
Everybody says this is one of the weak points of BHN, but i happen to think it's one of the highlights.
If you haven't listened to it in a long time, try it again. I think it's one of those songs that just grab you, especially when it sounds fresh (ie- you haven't heard it in a while).
I hope we can expect something similar on the new album, and that they give Record Machine a similar treatment.
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Post by Beady’s Here Now on Jun 6, 2008 17:03:04 GMT -5
This is what I think it is, im not sure if Noel intended this but either way it's genius:
Magic Pie is the opposite of Humble Pie.
Think about it, the song is about getting to the top - "I'll have my way, I'll have my way, my star will shine"
If that's the case, then the Magic Pie doesn't seem as stupid, does it. I find it rather smart actually, if Noel intended that interpretation
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Post by kenneth on Jun 6, 2008 17:13:29 GMT -5
"Those who don't say what they mean will live and die by their own swords" Yes, I love that particular line myself. But I'm kinda torn between this song and Flashbax to which is the best Noel sung song from that period. |
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Post by Beady’s Here Now on Jun 6, 2008 17:33:07 GMT -5
"Those who don't say what they mean will live and die by their own swords" Yes, I love that particular line myself. But I'm kinda torn between this song and Flashbax to which is the best Noel sung song from that period. Flashbax is a cracking tune |
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