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Post by supersonic1983 on Feb 25, 2008 20:17:18 GMT -5
It just seems to me that Arsenal have decided to take it all rather personally now something bad has happened to one of their players. Believe it or not, Arsenal do not have a monopoly on great football; nor the supposed consequences of daring to play it.
If Arsenal don't win the league this year, it won't be because they were kicked off the park. It'll be because they were beaten by a better team.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 26, 2008 6:27:45 GMT -5
it was a slide tackle that was a fraction of a second late not some major deep seated problem with the premiership, i want football to remain a contact sport.
the reason arsenal can't always win the premiership is cos they are not good enough they have had to rebuild a team.
look at the top 2 teams in the premiership they are the two that play the most attractive and attacking football.
and if the premier league is so bad why do so many players come to play here?
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Post by brumoscardo on Feb 26, 2008 15:56:03 GMT -5
and if the premier league is so bad why do so many players come to play here? Money. If Chelsea offers 1 billion euros for Ronaldinho and Milan or Madrid offers him the same, he will chose one of the two last mentioned. In fact, if a club here in Brazil offers him the same amount, he would stay here, but that's already off topic. |
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Post by supersonic1983 on Feb 26, 2008 16:17:13 GMT -5
Shockingly, some of them are driven by a desire to prove themselves in the best league in the world.
Not everything in football boils down to fucking money, you know, otherwise Cristiano Ronaldo would already be wearing a Real Madrid shirt.
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Post by Moorish on Feb 27, 2008 6:40:47 GMT -5
it was a slide tackle that was a fraction of a second late not some major deep seated problem with the premiership, i want football to remain a contact sport. So do I Ross, but for a "sliding tackle" he is a foot off the ground. I do not think he meant it, but he was obviously trying to, as they say, "introduce himself", i.e. put a hard borderline foul tackle in on a skilfull player to let him know he was in a game, see how much he wanted it. It has gone wrong. He deserved the card and deserves a ban. Those wankers like Garth Crooks who say it wasn't even a yellow can eat shit. At the end of the day if you break someone's leg you should walk. The move to make poor old "Tiny" (the c*nt is 6 foot 4) into the victim in the situation is disgraceful. There is the issue of referees seeming to allow players a free hit before they step in; they are notoriously card-shy early on in games. If they booked more people straight away, rather than allowing them a few fouls, then a telling off, then maybe a card, we might not have people so willing to make such reckless challenges. |
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Post by supersonic1983 on Feb 27, 2008 13:50:06 GMT -5
Many a game has spiralled out of control as a result of a card-happy referee. Early bookings are not the answer - applying the letter of the law is. More often than not, if a referee doesn't book someone early on in a game it's because he's applying common sense. Players are excitable in the opening stages of a match, resulting in over-exuberance. It's not crazy to allow them to get away with a couple of niggly fouls, for the sake of the 90 minutes.
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Post by Superguiller. on Feb 27, 2008 18:24:15 GMT -5
Most the teams in the premiership are cheap chelseas.
Hit their ankles and send the ball away, maybe one day we'll score.
I'm not surprised at all.
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Post by brumoscardo on Feb 28, 2008 10:18:02 GMT -5
Shockingly, some of them are driven by a desire to prove themselves in the best league in the world. Not everything in football boils down to fucking money, you know, otherwise Cristiano Ronaldo would already be wearing a Real Madrid shirt. Well.. he is gonna be the most rich player active when he renews his contract for 13 million euros per year. |
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Post by supersonic1983 on Feb 28, 2008 10:39:10 GMT -5
Well, he's the best player in the world, and United are offering him wages that reflect his status in the game, and by comparison to it's highest earners. For United it's not about frightening off potential buyers, but about protecting their investment.
Tying him to a long-term contract ensures that the club is under no obligation to sell. Ronaldo has already stated a desire to play in Spain, so this contract ensures that if and when he does move it'll be because United are ready to let him go, and not because they can't compete financially.
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Post by brumoscardo on Feb 28, 2008 12:17:31 GMT -5
Well, he's the best player in the world, and United are offering him wages that reflect his status in the game, and by comparison to it's highest earners. For United it's not about frightening off potential buyers, but about protecting their investment. Tying him to a long-term contract ensures that the club is under no obligation to sell. Ronaldo has already stated a desire to play in Spain, so this contract ensures that if and when he does move it'll be because United are ready to let him go, and not because they can't compete financially. I know.  What's the point? He does want to go to Spain but ManU offers him money to stay, and he says yes. So money wins, not ManU. He's not the best player in the world. Maybe the best in England. |
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Post by supersonic1983 on Feb 28, 2008 19:11:25 GMT -5
He's staying at Old Trafford because he loves playing here. The Real Madrids and Barcelonas of this world could easily have offered him the same (or higher) wages, had he chosen not to sign on the dotted line. United's offer is purely a reflection of his worth to the club.
Maybe the best in England? He's played on another level for almost two seasons now. And please, enlighten me as to who the best player in the world is. Just don't say it's Kaka, or my fucking head will explode.
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Post by brumoscardo on Mar 2, 2008 6:20:14 GMT -5
Kaka. And I like Gerrard better.
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Post by supersonic1983 on Mar 2, 2008 19:59:53 GMT -5
All I'd suggest is that you check out the stats on each individual for this and last season, not to mention the corresponding league tables and personal accolades. Because there's not a more effective footballer in the world right now than Ronaldo. |
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Post by lionsden® on Mar 2, 2008 23:11:54 GMT -5
Shorey is te best defender
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Post by Moorish on Mar 4, 2008 12:43:15 GMT -5
It's not crazy to allow them to get away with a couple of niggly fouls, for the sake of the 90 minutes. There is truth in this, but it's also true that this mindset is abused by some players. I'd love to see the reaction from the press if this had been Gallas or some other foreign player breaking Rooney's leg. Or Gerrard's. Right before a major competition (assuming of course we had qualified for one). Would everyone be so quick to defend Gallas/the other foreigner in this situation? Would they fuck. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 4, 2008 14:20:56 GMT -5
It's not crazy to allow them to get away with a couple of niggly fouls, for the sake of the 90 minutes. There is truth in this, but it's also true that this mindset is abused by some players. I'd love to see the reaction from the press if this had been Gallas or some other foreign player breaking Rooney's leg. Or Gerrard's. Right before a major competition (assuming of course we had qualified for one). Would everyone be so quick to defend Gallas/the other foreigner in this situation? Would they fuck. i would defend gallas not to say i wouldn't be fucked off that rooney was injured but when it is only an issue of timing and there is no intent to cause injury then i don't have a problem. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 7, 2008 14:07:29 GMT -5
Blatter demands action on tackles Fifa president Sepp Blatter has called for lifetime bans and criminal prosecutions for players guilty of making dangerous tackles. He has demanded a "zero tolerance" policy ahead of the International Board's weekend meeting at Gleneagles. news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/7282851.stm
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Post by MG on Mar 7, 2008 16:06:53 GMT -5
how can you ban someone for life after a mistimed/clumbsy tackle?
these are people who worked their whole life to get to a great standard of football. Clubs play millions of pounds for players and if one goes OTT on a tackle he loses his job, and the club loses out on a player aswell.
Most footballers have been playing to play professional since the age of 13, some younger.
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Post by supersonic1983 on Mar 7, 2008 19:06:18 GMT -5
these are people who worked their whole life to get to a great standard of football. Clubs play millions of pounds for players and if one goes OTT on a tackle he loses his job, and the club loses out on a player aswell. Then these people ought to show a more respect for their fellow professionals. Clumsy and mistimed challenges should not be punished so severely, but dangerous tackles? Certainly. Take Claude Makelele's challenge at the weekend. Fucking disgraceful. These players know the damage they can inflict on others, and anyone willing to do so (especially in consideration of recent events) deserves to be made an example of. |
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What's the point? He does want to go to Spain but ManU offers him money to stay, and he says yes. So money wins, not ManU. He's not the best player in the world. Maybe the best in England.
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