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Post by Bittersweet on Oct 2, 2005 19:43:53 GMT -5
at least it seems from reading a few from american sources here they keep going on about his "arrogance" - I mean please this is the place that gave birth to axl rose and we know all about the adulation for gnr especially for their bad boy image as well as sweet child of mine lol - hmm so is "attitude" in the states only appreciated if it comes from an oppressed redneck running around stage in their underwear? I mean this is a guy who attacked a fan for taking a picture and liam can't hardly crack a joke at a gig without the mr writers jumping down his throat, what do they want another michael stipe? Do americans have any sense of the british humour or any at all? I mean they even turned on the beloved beatles after lennon infamously joked about them being bigger than jesus cos it was becoming such a huge trend to like them, I say lighten up and play some rock n roll, fortunately ur very own bob dylan didn't lsten to the hillbilly dumb rednecks who booed him at his own gigs for going electric and recording songs like a rolling stone one of the best in history of popular music and being a "traitor" to all things folk lol so hey its not just oasis who have had a raw deal in the US at times it seems ;D
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Post by giggergrl on Oct 2, 2005 19:52:45 GMT -5
ah bittersweet , yes luv... u are so right.. what you addressed above ..as you may know.. noel recently stated in an interview he realizes that the USA just does not "get liam.." and that the US music industry is a "delicate flower" that needs to be picked (and he can;t be arsed ! love that attitude ! LOL !) really with him you either get it or ya don't... fuck em ! I've riden the trains with ppl from the UK here in the DC area.. of course me being chatty I always mention oasis.. several have commented on liam's "arrogance." ah well... now our lads ARE doing exceptionaly well this USA tour - TRUST ME ! Unfortunately the MORONS who write these reviews are NO OASIS fans and they certainly are no lads ! LOL ! I saw em in NYC and thurs nite in baltimore ! NYC was sold out of course , say no more.. and baltimore fans went absolutely ballistic ! Liam and Noel were really "taken back" by it all... they fed off the audience and put on a TOP gig ! ie liam hugging audience members, dedicating songs, Noel chatty and putting his 2 thumbs up in the air ! young ppl were going crazy screaming every word to every song ! I swear to you on a WTSMG CD ! keep the faith ! oasis are back ! they have stood tall in the face of opposition for years, have not compromised and they will remain a huge fans band ! fcuk yeah !
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Post by giggergrl on Oct 2, 2005 20:01:30 GMT -5
now one usa critic got it right ! you may have read this already ! NOTE IT WAS WRITTEN BY A BIRD !
Battle of the Brits: Coldplay vs. Oasis Dallas concert showdown Stephanie Garcia
September 27, 2005 Two of England’s most famous bands paid a visit to the Smirnoff Music Centre last week. Oasis shook up fans on Sept. 22 and, the next night, Coldplay graced the stage, playing for a sold-out crowd. Two big nights for Smirnoff and fans that can’t get enough of what the United Kingdom has to offer. So, the rock ‘n’ roll gruff of Oasis versus the crooning piano ballads of Coldplay … who was more deserving of the $50 ticket?
In terms of production, Coldplay went all out, with giant screens displaying things such as band members to a bear crawling on all four legs.
All colors of the rainbow were shined into the eyes of the crowd while singer Chris Martin either ran up and down the stage like a child refusing cough syrup.
Oasis took a different approach, nothing too flashy, for they want all the attention on them, or at least singer Liam Gallagher wants all the attention on him.
Strings of Christmas lights were hanging around blocks while bars of red and blue signaled on and off.
While Coldplay’s multi-colored atmosphere was interesting to look at, it distracted from the music. For at least half the show, the screen artwork was more interesting than the band itself.
The most important thing about a gig is the music, of course, and both Coldplay and Oasis delivered the energy to please the groups’ fans. There is no doubt that either knows how to put on a good show, but Oasis has the advantage. Not only has Oasis been around longer, but it is genuinely the better band.
Oasis began the set with “Turn up the Sun” off the group’s latest album, Don’t believe the Truth, which immediately made the crowds’ hands shoot up and I’m not quite sure the hands ever came back down. Liam sang in his Manchester drawl, sunglasses, blazer and Levis in the most arrogant “screw off” hands-in-pockets sort of way, while guitarist and singer Noel Gallagher, in a grey t-shirt and jeans, modestly proved he has much more talent than his brother.
Noel glided through the guitar solo on “Live Forever” and just when you think Liam is staring in aw at his brother, you realize he’s looking directly into a video camera recording the show. Liam leaves the stage a few times, because he cannot handle just standing about the stage while Noel takes over lead vocals on crowd hits such as “The Importance of Being Idle” and “Mucky Fingers.”
Of course, Oasis played the classics. According to Liam, “Morning Glory” is for the cowboys, while “Cigarettes and Alcohol” is obviously for the alcoholics. I don’t really need to tell you that “Wonderwall” and “Champagne Supernova” were done in prefect tune and grace, but I will anyway. They are two of the best–known songs to come out of the ‘90s, and they are still relevant today and Liam knows it. I’ve never seen a more arrogant man in my life, Liam standing center stage biting his tambourine like a prize dog and his bone just waiting to be adored, like the god he thinks he is. He doesn’t have to wait long at all.
Noel overtakes the throne on the second to last song of the night, “Don’t Look Back in Anger”. Noel stepped back for the first chorus leaving it up to the audience to fill in. That song was perfect in just about every way, I’m sure there were some tears flowing by the time Oasis tore into the last song of the evening, a cover of The Who’s “My Generation.”
So, maybe Coldplay doesn’t have the same reputation of classics as
Oasis, but the audience wouldn’t believe that for one minute. Coldplay walked through the maze of flashing lights and began with “Square One” off the act’s new album, X&Y. The mom and daughter next to me start screaming and jumping up and down shouting “Chris! Chris!” as do many of the fans around, then everyone starts swaying and screaming. The next song, “Politik,” proves to be an early crowd favorite and sends everyone into even more hysterics with the pounding piano and the line “open up your eyes.” Drummer Will Champion is at his best in this song and the crowd spazes out when his giant converse shoe is shown on the screen.
I was surprised to see the band’s debut hit, “Yellow,” played so early in the set. Usually, that’s the type of song a band likes to end with, but Coldplay has apparently moved on. It did, however sound wonderful and yellow balloons filled with confetti came down on the center section of seats. The first single off X&Y, “Speed of Sound” proved to be a bit of a crowd downer, people began to sit down and have private conversations or play with their cell phones, also, I believe this is the song in which a man a few seats next to me vomited.
Coldplay has a lot of slow-paced piano ballad type of songs, which don’t always work too well live, since they have so many of them, it makes for a sleepy audience and people start to lose interest, and this is what I figured the song “Trouble” would do, but it proved me wrong and was actually one of the highlights of the show.
Martin even told a childhood story about his love for Phil Collins while his dad was trying to educate him on Johnny Cash, he then went on to sing a cover of Cash’s “Ring of Fire,” which got a lot of love from the crowd. But as amusing as that cover was, “Clocks” was the crowd favorite. It’s surely one of the most energetic songs Coldplay has to offer. Martin’s vocals stayed pretty consistent through out the whole show, even on the high notes.
The band closed with the epic sounding motions of “Fix You” and cell phones glowed in the mist of the thousands of fans for one last time. All four members dressed in black gathered at the front of the stage to bow, blow kisses, and wave goodbye, while I couldn’t help but think—why didn’t they play “Shiver”?
The Bottom line: Coldplay is a bit too dramatic and Oasis just wanted to play some rock ‘n’ roll. Oasis is well worth the $50. No light show required
ntdaily.com
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Post by Bittersweet on Oct 2, 2005 20:13:55 GMT -5
yeah ive seen that review and it wasn't bad and well said tambourine! im glad oasis are doing well i mean they had sold about 7 million albums in america and had a few balladhit singles strangely itsnice to see they may be stepping away from being to much of a "guilty pleasure" and cult band in the US now. I just hope america in general get to know what a great rock n roll star type of band they are and not a wonderwall setlist full of beatles reference which some cynics over the pond like to think and but ive heard let there belove which is a bit beatlesque dirty word in america is the next single lol how ironic, personally i would love something like turn up the sun blasting out of the us airwaves and hopefully this time they are getting some decent promotion and promos behind them
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Post by giggergrl on Oct 2, 2005 20:39:13 GMT -5
yeah ive seen that review and it wasn't bad and well said tambourine! im glad oasis are doing well i mean they had sold about 7 million albums in america and had a few balladhit singles strangely itsnice to see they may be stepping away from being to much of a "guilty pleasure" and cult band in the US now. I just hope america in general get to know what a great rock n roll star type of band they are and not a wonderwall setlist full of beatles reference which some cynics over the pond like to think and but ive heard let there belove which is a bit beatlesque dirty word in america is the next single lol how ironic, personally i would love something like turn up the sun blasting out of the us airwaves and hopefully this time they are getting some decent promotion and promos behind them yes I hear ya m8.. hey I do know someone, a US marine and wife who named their baby girl LYLA ! His parents or the grandparents rather said "yeah they named it after some new song ! I swear to you and noel ! personally I would LOVE to use LTBT as background music to a political video or documentary... the current state of US affairs shown world wide and all. not to mention our own US ciitzens that live in poverty and violence.. show it to the masses ! the message would be MEGA !
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Post by Bittersweet on Oct 2, 2005 20:54:38 GMT -5
yeah its like the boys own take on all you need is love and is that the sound of an acoustic guitar and a piano, don't coldplay do this? hey i beat some american journalist to it lol Lyla is a great song very true!
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Post by Mogly on Oct 2, 2005 22:02:52 GMT -5
there are some reviewers who think it's "cool" to bash oasis so they just do it no matter if what the're saying is write or wrong. sometimes I don't even think it's the reviewers fault but the editor's because in first place a guy who has no idea about the band or doesn't like them at all shouldn't be writing about them and then if he does he shouldn't print such a review where they look dumb ignorant.
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Post by giggergrl on Oct 2, 2005 22:13:36 GMT -5
there are some reviewers who think it's "cool" to bash oasis so they just do it no matter if what the're saying is write or wrong. sometimes I don't even think it's the reviewers fault but the editor's because in first place a guy who has no idea about the band or doesn't like them at all shouldn't be writing about them and then if he does he shouldn't print such a review where they look dumb ignorant. I agree ! the writers know about liam's past or whatever and they SENSATIONALIZE things, cos ppl wanna read "dirt" ie he was rude, he was drunk, he fathered 3 kids, etc etc..
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Post by Mogly on Oct 2, 2005 22:24:59 GMT -5
there are some reviewers who think it's "cool" to bash oasis so they just do it no matter if what the're saying is write or wrong. sometimes I don't even think it's the reviewers fault but the editor's because in first place a guy who has no idea about the band or doesn't like them at all shouldn't be writing about them and then if he does he shouldn't print such a review where they look dumb ignorant. I agree ! the writers know about liam's past or whatever and they SENSATIONALIZE things, cos ppl wanna read "dirt" ie he was rude, he was drunk, he fathered 3 kids, etc etc.. yeah but they know just two or three things. but they don't seem to know about oasis being the mos successful UK act in the last decade, or the string of consecutive top 5 and top 10 singles they have, that every studio album has debuted at #1 in the UK, that thet sold out MSG, HB, Boston (can't remember the name of the venue), that over 100.000 persons have gone to the US tour they're on right now. that in November 2004 they sold 330.000 tickets for shows in the UK when no new material had been released for over two years, and so on... about liam being arrogant, well he earned the right to be... no lame crappy second rate newspaper reviewer can hurt liam and oasis, and they really have no power to do it anymore
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