ev
Oasis Roadie
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Post by ev on Jul 4, 2005 14:13:49 GMT -5
has anybody noticed that America doesn't like Oasis at all? The CD has been released for a month and it's not even on the top 100 album charts. how sad is that?  I don't think it's in the top 20 in Canada either. They need to release a new single soon, but it won't happen. |
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Post by stomko on Jul 4, 2005 15:10:32 GMT -5
Oasis isn't hated in America. Album sale don't mean that much in terms of popularity. Gwen Stefani and Black Eyed Peas are always on the top of the charts. But they couldn't fill half of Continental Airlines Arena in NJ with about 10 other top 40 acts on the bill. They also had a tough time with another show at Tweeter Center in Mansfield. Yet Oasis sold out MSG and Mansfield with many more impressive sellouts to go. Oasis are just fine. Oasis could outsell Maroon 5 anyday in ticket sales.  |
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Post by Way Cool Jr. on Jul 5, 2005 0:08:02 GMT -5
Oasis isn't hated in America. Album sale don't mean that much in terms of popularity. Gwen Stefani and Black Eyed Peas are always on the top of the charts. But they couldn't fill half of Continental Airlines Arena in NJ with about 10 other top 40 acts on the bill. They also had a tough time with another show at Tweeter Center in Mansfield. Yet Oasis sold out MSG and Mansfield with many more impressive sellouts to go. Oasis are just fine. Oasis could outsell Maroon 5 anyday in ticket sales. funny...maroon 5 plays at my 3000 person college in the states, yet sells more than oasis while oasis can play to 50k+ |
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Post by StepOut on Jul 5, 2005 0:24:28 GMT -5
Oasis haven't done well here in terms of albums sales since Be Here Now. However, whenever they go on tour the fans come out. Just look at the last US tour, it sold out. The upcoming tour is selling very well too.
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Post by giggergrl on Jul 5, 2005 0:34:30 GMT -5
ist off, USA we are a consumer nation... controlled by MTV and record sales and investors.. do ya think oasis goes to great lengths to market like coldplay etc. ? it's all about marketing and $$$$. Noel and Liam can;t be arsed. they are royalty at home. good enuff.. but hey, in closing - they can piss off a whole continent and then come to NYC MSG and sell out ! music speaks fer itself to this day. I am proud of the lads ! Tam  |
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Post by flashbax812 on Jul 5, 2005 1:33:13 GMT -5
ist off, USA we are a consumer nation... controlled by MTV and record sales and investors.. do ya think oasis goes to great lengths to market like coldplay etc. ? it's all about marketing and $$$$. Noel and Liam can;t be arsed. they are royalty at home. good enuff.. but hey, in closing - they can piss off a whole continent and then come to NYC MSG and sell out ! music speaks fer itself to this day. I am proud of the lads ! Tam We're controlled by MTV and record sales and investors? I think you're painting an unfair picture of Americans. I dont know why they dont sell more albums but IMO it doesnt matter. Noel doesnt seem to fear being ignored in America and at the concert I was at in Detroit we tried our best to show the band how much we appreciate them. |
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Post by shakermaker00 on Jul 5, 2005 2:22:11 GMT -5
ist off, USA we are a consumer nation... controlled by MTV and record sales and investors.. do ya think oasis goes to great lengths to market like coldplay etc. ? it's all about marketing and $$$$. Noel and Liam can;t be arsed. they are royalty at home. good enuff.. but hey, in closing - they can piss off a whole continent and then come to NYC MSG and sell out ! music speaks fer itself to this day. I am proud of the lads ! Tam We're controlled by MTV and record sales and investors? I think you're painting an unfair picture of Americans. I dont know why they dont sell more albums but IMO it doesnt matter. Noel doesnt seem to fear being ignored in America and at the concert I was at in Detroit we tried our best to show the band how much we appreciate them. no, he hit it on the head. it doesnt take a genius to figure that out though. i mean the playola going on within the mayor radio and tvnetworks who are mostly owned or in partnership with mayor recordcompanies should be apparent to you every time you turn on the radio/tv. it's slowly going the same direction in europe too. its all capitalisms fault. only the strongest survives..right? |
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Post by giggergrl on Jul 5, 2005 2:59:12 GMT -5
I will hit you on the head luv ! LOL !  |
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Post by Way Cool Jr. on Jul 5, 2005 11:50:50 GMT -5
capitalism is controlled by the consumer, consumers aren't controlled by big business
oasis don't sell bundles of albums here because nobody buys them...could be for any reason of a hundred(mostly i don't think most people know they're still around, but thats where i would put my money if i had to make a good guess)
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Post by albertzz on Jul 5, 2005 13:14:10 GMT -5
"capitalism is controlled by the consumer" not big business.
take some psychology classes. At face value you're right. In actual fact it's quite a different story. You market and package the lamest shit in the world properly and people will buy it. You don't do that and they won't. In the absence of clever corporate tactics people's behaviour would be quite different. We are not informed consumers we are informed by those businesses who do everything they can to play on our psychological weaknesses, short of false advertising and sometimes not.
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Post by thebluesgnr on Jul 5, 2005 13:17:26 GMT -5
capitalism is controlled by the consumer, consumers aren't controlled by big business They are heavily influenceable at the very least. |
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Post by stomko on Jul 5, 2005 13:42:42 GMT -5
Yeah, most people don't make intelligent choices. We live in a society where people enjoy what's shoved down their throats. People only like music if they hear it on the radio or can associate to a video they've seen. Reality television is popular now because their is so much of it, not because it's quality television.
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Post by giggergrl on Jul 5, 2005 13:52:16 GMT -5
"capitalism is controlled by the consumer" not big business. take some psychology classes. At face value you're right. In actual fact it's quite a different story. You market and package the lamest shit in the world properly and people will buy it. You don't do that and they won't. In the absence of clever corporate tactics people's behaviour would be quite different. We are not informed consumers we are informed by those businesses who do everything they can to play on our psychological weaknesses, short of false advertising and sometimes not. THANK YOU ALBERTZZ,, that is what I tried to say. EXACTLY.  ;D |
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Post by Way Cool Jr. on Jul 5, 2005 17:52:18 GMT -5
"capitalism is controlled by the consumer" not big business. take some psychology classes. At face value you're right. In actual fact it's quite a different story. You market and package the lamest shit in the world properly and people will buy it. You don't do that and they won't. In the absence of clever corporate tactics people's behaviour would be quite different. We are not informed consumers we are informed by those businesses who do everything they can to play on our psychological weaknesses, short of false advertising and sometimes not. this is true in a sense we arent totally informed and we do get misinformation, but i would add that we ARE a very informed society if you look at all our types of media kind of a judgment call, you prefer a psycologists point of view and i prefere and economists...its all good, i get what your saying if its any consolation |
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Post by rdwngthirty on Jul 5, 2005 18:46:06 GMT -5
your wrong about reality tv tho, people loved the first survivor and it was sweet but it was the first reality show (or one of them) around
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Post by nyr401994 on Jul 5, 2005 19:55:20 GMT -5
it's there on itunes
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Post by queenoasis on Jul 5, 2005 22:26:53 GMT -5
has anybody noticed that America doesn't like Oasis at all? The CD has been released for a month and it's not even on the top 100 album charts. how sad is that? I don't think it's in the top 20 in Canada either. They need to release a new single soon, but it won't happen. DBTT debuted at #12 on the Billboard U.S Charts. It's been slipping eversince but it did make the Top 20 its first week. Not too shabby if u ask me. The Top 20 is constantly dominated by Rap/Hip-Hop acts because it's what's popular in Middle American Suburbia. Rock n Roll just doesn't have the same hold it had in the 90's...Sad but true.  |
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Post by rdwngthirty on Jul 5, 2005 23:09:09 GMT -5
it does but it needs to get a fukin foothold....greenday never really disapeared and when american idiot came out EVERYBODY knew that they had a new album....short of this forum i wouldnt even know oasis existed anymore...its all fukin promotion...you get some commericals, some tv appearances near the gigs, a couple catchy singles....then people say "hey, who the fuck is this and where have they been?"
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Gauss
Madferrit Fan
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Post by Gauss on Jul 6, 2005 2:50:54 GMT -5
You know Green Day exists because their videos are always on the MTV playlist, and their songs are always played on the radio...
Oasis songs don't get that sort of respect. Maybe it's because Definitely Maybe was one of the greatest albums of all time, and when you release an album that some people think was even better, it's tough to follow that.
Oasis are a victim of their own early 'success' in the US. Americans in general doesn't like 'flash-in-the-pans.' While Oasis definitely isn't, they had super-massive 'bigger than the beatles' appeal in their first two albums(and I like Be Here Now a lot too). They were rewarded for two amazing albums with the #2 position of Be Here Now. But since then, the quality has definitely been down. Heathen Chemistry was a turning point, and this album is a step in the right direction, but after letting down a nation so much with BHN and SOTSOG, it's going to take another album of the magnitude of DM or MG to recapture the album sales they onced enjoyed in the States.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 6, 2005 8:06:08 GMT -5
the sad fact is in america outside of fan forums like this and the few true rock lovers left most people think they are broken up ...before my trip i was out and about and just about everyone i mentioned to that i was goin to see them in the uk were stunned they were together still , i am talkin 20 or 30 something year olds here..they are considered by the masses to be disbanded so people dont look to buy it ..in the uk the buzz was all over for them......radio apathy ,payola all add to the problem..we need to face facts they will be like the dead were to there fans there lps may not sell well but they can fill arenas easier than the "chart toppers" look at coldplay..i like them , there lp is sellin great here and in the uk..yet 3 lps in they had problems filling medium uk outdoor venues..2 lps in OASIS sold out knebworth....gig wise nobody touches OASIS cause the rockers attend it but sales wise OASIS dont appeal to the non concert goer so there sales will spike the first week then dip cause the underage kids and older people that buy records wont buy them because they dont know there music |
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Post by noelliam77 on Jul 6, 2005 9:42:47 GMT -5
The reason Oasis sales are sH*t is due to thier own fault and the fact that us americans are the way we are. Back in the mid 90's everyone dug the morning glory hits and rightfully so. Oasis didn't kiss any of the media's arses like coldplay and greenday do. They got a lot bad press for cancelling shows loosing out the opportunity to make a lasting impression on american culture. They went on to become known as that "Wonderwall Band." Oasis for a lack of a better term are just too british for america. You see a coldplay interview and they have no real opinion on anything and are considered safe for the kids. The United States is becoming a religous state and a band openly talking about cocaine use is not gonna flywhich is why we have MTV pumping out safe pop music instead like mall punk acts like green day good charlotte simple plan etc.....
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Post by Way Cool Jr. on Jul 6, 2005 12:25:58 GMT -5
i agree, main stream punk rock and rap arent offensive in the US anymore....Thats why coldplay was so big and so was wonderwall(CS was more of a grown ups fav in 96).
but this still doesnt explain album sales, i think its because people dont care to look them up give them a chance...and when the do and dont here a wonderwall they get put off...if your lookin for wonderwall and you put on DM rock n roll star might put you off....same thing with THT on HC
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Post by Way Cool Jr. on Jul 6, 2005 12:29:56 GMT -5
the sad fact is in america outside of fan forums like this and the few true rock lovers left most people think they are broken up ...before my trip i was out and about and just about everyone i mentioned to that i was goin to see them in the uk were stunned they were together still , i am talkin 20 or 30 something year olds here..they are considered by the masses to be disbanded so people dont look to buy it ..in the uk the buzz was all over for them......radio apathy ,payola all add to the problem..we need to face facts they will be like the dead were to there fans there lps may not sell well but they can fill arenas easier than the "chart toppers" look at coldplay..i like them , there lp is sellin great here and in the uk..yet 3 lps in they had problems filling medium uk outdoor venues..2 lps in OASIS sold out knebworth....gig wise nobody touches OASIS cause the rockers attend it but sales wise OASIS dont appeal to the non concert goer so there sales will spike the first week then dip cause the underage kids and older people that buy records wont buy them because they dont know there music good point on the 2 different types of music fans: concert goers and non concert goers....thats a good explanation |
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BASIK
Oasis Roadie
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Post by BASIK on Jul 6, 2005 15:29:49 GMT -5
USA is a very strange place for Oasis.
Oasis is the most famous band in the world (with U2)... except USA.
It's a mistery. USA ignore Oasis.
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Post by malvin1938 on Jul 6, 2005 18:29:50 GMT -5
i love oasis but i dont think that is the most famous band in the world with u2. and about the sales...who the hell cares about the sales? i think that when oasis make a great album as be here now, morning glory or definitely maybe the sales will be exceptional...
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I don't think it's in the top 20 in Canada either. They need to release a new single soon, but it won't happen.
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