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Post by caro on Jun 7, 2005 11:20:22 GMT -5
why do you think that dom? that's not the first time you say that... chris martins always said during recording x & y that if it was well received and all he hoped he would not record another - and after hearing it well im sure its everything he hoped - and he has said that recording is a very very long boring process and that he cant wait until he dosent have to do it, i think after the tour he would like to stop, but maybe his love for music will keep he comin back for more - i hope so he's really weird...  when you like music and doing music, what's the point of stopping  what is he gonna do |
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Post by lofigenius on Jun 7, 2005 19:38:47 GMT -5
you're a lying shit and i can see right through you. dude, i've been an oasis fan since 1996. i have al thier albums, i've seen them live 4 times. i think you're being the prick for making such a retarded assumption about me just based on my name, signature and avatar. you were so wrong too! :lol: wow.  you can see right through me... right. you must have the worst fuckin pair of goggles eever then. yer full of shit yerself you see. you got no clue what the fuck yer talking about but yer blabbing away as if you think you know everyone basd on their avatars and signatures. what a load of fuckin shit. quit the crack man... seriously. do us all a favour and STFU and accept the fact that not everyone is satisfied with the new album. ever met any of the band? i met noel back in 2000 and got him to sign my SOTSOG cover for me. |
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Post by giggergrl on Jun 7, 2005 21:09:38 GMT -5
I ain't involved in the fight here man.. I have no probs with anyone on this thread.. Lofi - wait a min. you said you met Noel ? " i met noel back in 2000 and got him to sign my SOTSOG cover for me. " Details ? if ya want.  |
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Post by cigsandbooze on Jun 12, 2005 10:28:47 GMT -5
Ok guys and gals, no offense to Coldplay, I am a fan, but the new album is mediocre at best. I bought it yesterday and I have been giving it a listen over and over again. I think DBTT blows this album away, no doubt.
First, where does the first song and the last song start and begin? The whole album seems like one song that goes through phases in the same manner Pink Floyd would make marathon songs on albums such as Animals or Wish You Were Here (both great albums).
Second, there isn't much contrast between each song. They all have the same amount of piano, same weak guitar in the background, and the same amount of Chris Martin's voice. Did the mixer keep everything at the same level when producing this album? It sounds a little monotonous.
Third, the only two great songs on the album are Speed of Sound and the hidden track Til Kingdom Come.
Therefore, compared to Oasis's DBTT, it is a mediocre album. Compared to the rest of the crap out there, Coldplay is definitely tops. Comments and critiscism welcomed.
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Post by Dominic on Jun 12, 2005 10:40:18 GMT -5
chris martins always said during recording x & y that if it was well received and all he hoped he would not record another - and after hearing it well im sure its everything he hoped - and he has said that recording is a very very long boring process and that he cant wait until he dosent have to do it, i think after the tour he would like to stop, but maybe his love for music will keep he comin back for more - i hope so he's really weird... when you like music and doing music, what's the point of stopping what is he gonna do go home to his misses and sit on his arse for 10 years with the confidence of knowing he never made a bad record then form to do a world tour and release a dvd/cd and make a fortune - well thats what id do |
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Post by globe on Jun 12, 2005 11:47:39 GMT -5
Thing is, if this was Coldplays last album, Im pretty sure Chris Martin would continue to make music, either in another band or solo, and I think Im pretty safe in saying that any material he recorded would sound exactly like a Coldplay record. So even if they do split now, youll still be hearing Coldplay records from him in the future.
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Post by globe on Jun 12, 2005 11:54:05 GMT -5
Ok guys and gals, no offense to Coldplay, I am a fan, but the new album is mediocre at best. I bought it yesterday and I have been giving it a listen over and over again. I think DBTT blows this album away, no doubt. First, where does the first song and the last song start and begin? The whole album seems like one song that goes through phases in the same manner Pink Floyd would make marathon songs on albums such as Animals or Wish You Were Here (both great albums). Second, there isn't much contrast between each song. They all have the same amount of piano, same weak guitar in the background, and the same amount of Chris Martin's voice. Did the mixer keep everything at the same level when producing this album? It sounds a little monotonous. Third, the only two great songs on the album are Speed of Sound and the hidden track Til Kingdom Come. Therefore, compared to Oasis's DBTT, it is a mediocre album. Compared to the rest of the crap out there, Coldplay is definitely tops. Comments and critiscism welcomed. Oh BTW I agree with just about everything youve said about that album. I mean I like it, its really well written, but I cant believe the write ups it been getting in the press. If I had to compare it to DBTT, Id say when I listen to DBTT, it just flys by and makes you feel good. When I listen to X & Y, I find myself not just skipping tracks but shuffling through to the end of some songs too, some of them seem to take an age to finish. Its the Be Here Now of this decade! |
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Post by ddemarco on Jun 12, 2005 11:57:53 GMT -5
I have been a member of this board for years now. I'm on the board reading topics several times a day - like all of you I'm addicted to Oasis. I've never felt compelled to write a response before, but I need to express my opinion on this topic because I'm sick of all the hype being given to "X&Y". After listening to both albums at length, all I can say is "X&Y" is a boring and pretentious album. There are some good songs (Fix You, Speed of Sound, What If), but all in all the songs all sound the same. Songs start off with Chris playing a few chords on the piano, after a minute or two the rest of the band chimes in and a minute after that they all try to be Pink Floyd and get into these boring psychedelic jams. Coldplay is at their best when they keep it simple... short, shart pop songs a la "Yellow", "Clocks" or "In My Place". Their guitarist can't play like David Gilmour. In fact, he plays too much like The Edge (who I think is an average guitar player). And the drummer plays almost the exact same drum pattern in every song (similar to Larry Mullin Jr. - average drummer as well). Also, I think there is a significant lack of melody in many of the songs... Too many songs just don't go anywhere... boring. For me, DBTT is a much better album - the songs are more diverse, interesting, catchy and uplifting. Oldplay... I mean Coldplay... produce too many gloomy songs and after a while it gets sickening. I like variety on an album. I don't want 12 soppy, sad ballads. I prefer a blend of aggressive songs (TUTS), mid tempo pop songs (TIOBI) and acoustic ballads (LTBL). What do Coldplay have to be so miserable about!? Anyways, the only reason why many people think this album is so good is because of all the hype... everywhere you look or go, you see or hear Coldplay and how great "X&Y" is. Lets face it, Coldplay is on the verge of being the biggest band in the world, so they can do no wrong right now. They could release a rap album and it would be hailed as brilliant. Everyone is getting caught up in mass media. Be Here Now wasn't as great as it was made out to be (it was good, but not great), but it got so much press and good reviews initially that it sold 700,000 copies in its first week (a record to this day). Popularity or approval (critical or otherwise) does not mean quality or greatness. "X&Y" is an average album being made out to be Sgt. Pepper.
Don't belive the "truth" (hype)!!!
I feel better now...
Cheers, my fellow Oasis fans!
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Post by AlexTHFC on Jun 12, 2005 11:58:08 GMT -5
If its their last album, he can just write and maybe produce the next Embrace album! He could become the Simon Cowell of gentle indie-rock!
Seriously. I love Coldplay. The new album isn't a patch on AROBTTH or Parachutes or DBTT for that matter. It has a handful of good songs particularly Speed of Sound, Fix You, What If, Talk and 1 or 2 others, the rest is average. To say they all sound the same is something I really don't understand though. What If sounds nothing like speed of sound or square one or fix you etc. To say they all sound the same is like saying cigarettes & Alcohol and Columbia both sound the same because they both have distorted guitars in them.
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Post by Dominic on Jun 12, 2005 12:17:15 GMT -5
I have been a member of this board for years now. I'm on the board reading topics several times a day - like all of you I'm addicted to Oasis. I've never felt compelled to write a response before, but I need to express my opinion on this topic because I'm sick of all the hype being given to "X&Y". After listening to both albums at length, all I can say is "X&Y" is a boring and pretentious album. There are some good songs (Fix You, Speed of Sound, What If), but all in all the songs all sound the same. Songs start off with Chris playing a few chords on the piano, after a minute or two the rest of the band chimes in and a minute after that they all try to be Pink Floyd and get into these boring psychedelic jams. Coldplay is at their best when they keep it simple... short, shart pop songs a la "Yellow", "Clocks" or "In My Place". Their guitarist can't play like David Gilmour. In fact, he plays too much like The Edge (who I think is an average guitar player). And the drummer plays almost the exact same drum pattern in every song (similar to Larry Mullin Jr. - average drummer as well). Also, I think there is a significant lack of melody in many of the songs... Too many songs just don't go anywhere... boring. For me, DBTT is a much better album - the songs are more diverse, interesting, catchy and uplifting. Oldplay... I mean Coldplay... produce too many gloomy songs and after a while it gets sickening. I like variety on an album. I don't want 12 soppy, sad ballads. I prefer a blend of aggressive songs (TUTS), mid tempo pop songs (TIOBI) and acoustic ballads (LTBL). What do Coldplay have to be so miserable about!? Anyways, the only reason why many people think this album is so good is because of all the hype... everywhere you look or go, you see or hear Coldplay and how great "X&Y" is. Lets face it, Coldplay is on the verge of being the biggest band in the world, so they can do no wrong right now. They could release a rap album and it would be hailed as brilliant. Everyone is getting caught up in mass media. Be Here Now wasn't as great as it was made out to be (it was good, but not great), but it got so much press and good reviews initially that it sold 700,000 copies in its first week (a record to this day). Popularity or approval (critical or otherwise) does not mean quality or greatness. "X&Y" is an average album being made out to be Sgt. Pepper. Don't belive the "truth" (hype)!!! I feel better now... Cheers, my fellow Oasis fans! mate u are aware that it says the date u joined under your name |
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Post by ddemarco on Jun 12, 2005 12:21:49 GMT -5
I joined in Jan 2005 as a member, but i have been a visitor to the site for years...
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Post by Jabasso on Jun 12, 2005 12:24:02 GMT -5
I don't care what anyone says. DBTT is better than X&Y BUT Ryan Adams' Cold Roses blows them both away.
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Post by thebluesgnr on Jun 12, 2005 12:57:23 GMT -5
why do you think that dom? that's not the first time you say that... chris martins always said during recording x & y that if it was well received and all he hoped he would not record another - and after hearing it well im sure its everything he hoped - and he has said that recording is a very very long boring process and that he cant wait until he dosent have to do it, i think after the tour he would like to stop, but maybe his love for music will keep he comin back for more - i hope so He said the same thing after AROBTTH, and they made X&Y anyway. I wouldn't take it very seriously, I guess he just says that so people will enjoy the latest album more. |
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Post by madforret on Jun 13, 2005 11:19:52 GMT -5
DON'T BELIEVE THE TRUTH every single day of the week. This is an Oasis forum and I am an Oasis fan. I do not make any apologies for not liking Coldplay anywhere near as much. I never will.  |
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Post by Mario on Jun 13, 2005 17:35:05 GMT -5
i was really excited and stoked abou tthe new oasis album. it was really great when it was first leaked onto the net. but by the time the album was released, it felt overplayed and it lost it's replay value that quickly!!! i dunno what it is, but i feel the tunes don't have a long lasting replayability. i'm already quite over the new album in fact. the new coldplay album is a different case.. i was never a coldplay fan, bu ti really enjoy this album. it's got loads of replay value imo and i can see myself listening to this album a lot this summer. it has a very spiritual vibe in a way and lots of emotion that indulge me in the record. somethign the oasis record didn't do, besides guess god thinks im abel. overall what im saying is... i think the coldplay album is a better effort. and im sayng this as a true oasis fan, who was never a coldplay fan, who doesnt even own a single coldplay album! im facing the facts and admitting that oasis' time is over. they're just pushing it on their last leg right now.... sadly. Dude, i hate to say this, but i completely agree. The OAsis cd was great, but when i got the Coldplay cd, i just kinda forgot about Oasis. Maybe because i wore all my interest out anticipating this album, i dunno. But to the people who have listened to the leaked songs, of course youll get tired of the album by the time it comes out. The coldplay cd sounds like a breath of fresh air compared to the Oasis cd. I hate to say it, but i am really into the Coldplay cd. I hope ill wanna start listening to the Oasis again, but i dunno. JMO |
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Post by StepOut on Jun 13, 2005 23:35:39 GMT -5
i was really excited and stoked abou tthe new oasis album. it was really great when it was first leaked onto the net. but by the time the album was released, it felt overplayed and it lost it's replay value that quickly!!! i dunno what it is, but i feel the tunes don't have a long lasting replayability. i'm already quite over the new album in fact. the new coldplay album is a different case.. i was never a coldplay fan, bu ti really enjoy this album. it's got loads of replay value imo and i can see myself listening to this album a lot this summer. it has a very spiritual vibe in a way and lots of emotion that indulge me in the record. somethign the oasis record didn't do, besides guess god thinks im abel. overall what im saying is... i think the coldplay album is a better effort. and im sayng this as a true oasis fan, who was never a coldplay fan, who doesnt even own a single coldplay album! im facing the facts and admitting that oasis' time is over. they're just pushing it on their last leg right now.... sadly. Dude, i hate to say this, but i completely agree. The OAsis cd was great, but when i got the Coldplay cd, i just kinda forgot about Oasis. Maybe because i wore all my interest out anticipating this album, i dunno. But to the people who have listened to the leaked songs, of course youll get tired of the album by the time it comes out. The coldplay cd sounds like a breath of fresh air compared to the Oasis cd. I hate to say it, but i am really into the Coldplay cd. I hope ill wanna start listening to the Oasis again, but i dunno. JMO I feel the same way that you do about the new Coldplay album. It's definitely something fresh. It's quite the depature from their last album, they've tried new things. The Oasis album is great, it's very good, their best work in years, but there is something about the Coldplay album that just puts it on a different level. |
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Post by Gauss on Jun 14, 2005 2:17:41 GMT -5
Coldplay = Radiohead minus talent...
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Post by chocolate st*rfish on Jun 14, 2005 4:26:38 GMT -5
nana...i wouldnt put it that way...well okay if youre a R'h fan.. the whole wall of sound on x&y is kinda reminding of u2's style..a so called "soft bombast"..compare the guitars..
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Post by gasda on Jun 14, 2005 15:59:37 GMT -5
very simply dbtt the truth is an excellent record for everyone, and a great return to form for oasis. but something about x and y is mesmerizing and captivating. while dbtt the truth is a great record, x n y is a classic.
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Post by thebluesgnr on Jun 14, 2005 19:01:00 GMT -5
The production on X&Y is almost as good as BHN, if you know what I mean. It has some good songs but I can't find myself listening to the whole album in one go, I usually have to put something else after 7 or 8 songs.
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you can see right through me... right. you must have the worst fuckin pair of goggles eever then.
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