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Post by caro on May 13, 2005 15:20:10 GMT -5
i know someone who went to see U2 twice on the same tour and he said that they played the exact same songs and said the exact same things in between songs  |
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Post by fju2112 on May 13, 2005 15:31:33 GMT -5
Guys, I can speak for Americans who have seen them live - in the UK, they're playing stadiums and no one is afraid to jump around and have a good time. In the US, people are ASSHOLES and barely do anything except stand up and clap when teh song is over. I think thebigz1's wishes are misguided here - Oasis' shows are rockin' live, but people in America who go to concerts are too pretentious and dull to fully enjoy them, so no one "has it" at the shows. They just stand there like morons, expecting their rock stars to jump around for them. I know, it's silly, but it's true. The only shows you'll see people really getting into it is probably a hip-hop show or a heavy metal show. At least there the fans are expected to really 'ave it.
Because of the CROWD, I can see why some people would think Oasis' shows are fairly dull live; acts who interact with the crowd a bit more are considered more fun live because the fans are too afraid to pogo or whatever. I guess it's a cultural thing?
That said, I'd love to see a Noel acoustic set, and judging by what I've heard from the two live performances of Oasis recently (the one that was aired on TV and the Milan gig), I'm hoping Liam's voice SHAPES UP in time for the US tour. I wouldn't be surprirsed if they mix up the songs either on the US leg because they don't even have supersonic on there yet. They're just warming up and maybe Liam needs to warm his voice up and really prepare for a long tour, but I'm hoping his voice gets better because it's not sounding all that great at the moment.
My dream setlist would go something like this, while also trying to remain realistic:
Turn Up The Sun
Mucky Fingers
Supersonic
Acquiesce
Rockin' Chair (yes, electric, like in 95!)
Noel acoustic set:
Talk Tonight
Slide Away
It's Better People
Wonderwall
The Masterplan
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Don't Look Back in Anger (w/ piano, violins, etc)
Live Forever
D'You Know What I Mean? (w/ added effects to make it sound more like the album...call me a perfectionist but the album version of this song is unbelievable, and you all know it sounds thin live...)
My Big Mouth (yes, this too...one of the most underrated oasis tracks ever..should have been a single)
It's Gettin Better Man (shortened to 4 or 4:30)
Champagne Supernova
Encore:
The Fame
Whatever
Listen Up
The Importance of Being Idle
(cover) - Street Fighting Man or My Generation
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Post by Deleted on May 13, 2005 15:47:00 GMT -5
Guys, I can speak for Americans who have seen them live - in the UK, they're playing stadiums and no one is afraid to jump around and have a good time. In the US, people are ASSHOLES and barely do anything except stand up and clap when teh song is over. I think thebigz1's wishes are misguided here - Oasis' shows are rockin' live, but people in America who go to concerts are too pretentious and dull to fully enjoy them, so no one "has it" at the shows. They just stand there like morons, expecting their rock stars to jump around for them. I know, it's silly, but it's true. The only shows you'll see people really getting into it is probably a hip-hop show or a heavy metal show. At least there the fans are expected to really 'ave it. Because of the CROWD, I can see why some people would think Oasis' shows are fairly dull live; acts who interact with the crowd a bit more are considered more fun live because the fans are too afraid to pogo or whatever. I guess it's a cultural thing? That said, I'd love to see a Noel acoustic set, and judging by what I've heard from the two live performances of Oasis recently (the one that was aired on TV and the Milan gig), I'm hoping Liam's voice SHAPES UP in time for the US tour. I wouldn't be surprirsed if they mix up the songs either on the US leg because they don't even have supersonic on there yet. They're just warming up and maybe Liam needs to warm his voice up and really prepare for a long tour, but I'm hoping his voice gets better because it's not sounding all that great at the moment. My dream setlist would go something like this, while also trying to remain realistic: Turn Up The Sun Mucky Fingers Supersonic Acquiesce Rockin' Chair (yes, electric, like in 95!) Noel acoustic set: Talk Tonight Slide Away It's Better People Wonderwall The Masterplan (back to Liam & Noel/electric) Don't Look Back in Anger (w/ piano, violins, etc) Live Forever D'You Know What I Mean? (w/ added effects to make it sound more like the album...call me a perfectionist but the album version of this song is unbelievable, and you all know it sounds thin live...) My Big Mouth (yes, this too...one of the most underrated oasis tracks ever..should have been a single) It's Gettin Better Man (shortened to 4 or 4:30) Champagne Supernova Encore: The Fame Whatever Listen Up The Importance of Being Idle (cover) - Street Fighting Man or My Generation very well put but i have seen them in both the usa and uk knebworth,lochlomond(scot),finsbury,wembley,earls court, there shows dont generate any extra passion from the band (liam and noel) there beacon theatre gig in nyc was just as passionate as earls court noel wrapped himself in a irish (yes irish) flag that was thrown onstage.the point is OASIS play the same in the USA (NYC AT LEAST) as they do the UK AS for your comment about changin the setlist cause there was no SUPERSONIC...NOEL on all his usa interviews said they will not play the songs they are sick (i guess supersonic is 1 of them) he said they were bored playin the same "old tunes" so i look for no supersonic he did say they will play live forever-wonderall-cs though |
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Post by bagel on May 13, 2005 16:11:22 GMT -5
As having never seen Oasis live before, I hope when I do this summer that Liam is in perfect health and I get a traditional Oasis concert. However, I totally understand the desire to see Noel sing a full acoustic set, especially considering he's seen them before. I've seen numerous Oasis concerts on TV, and MTV Unplugged is by far the most rewarding to watch in my opinion. Especially with Liam's voice struggling a bit live these days. Also, I think suggesting the regular Oasis line up is amazing live is a bit of an overstatement. I'm sure watching it on TV and being there are probably much different in terms of atmosphere, but I've always considered them to be simply fine, and nothing more. And aside from a few altered Noel harmonies or drunken lyrical changes or extended guitar wanking, each live performance I've seen hasn't differed much from other live versions or the studio version. So what's the harm in wanting a little change?
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Post by Deleted on May 13, 2005 16:14:30 GMT -5
As having never seen Oasis live before, I hope when I do this summer that Liam is in perfect health and I get a traditional Oasis concert. that is askin alot....lol.....has not happened in 10 years i hope it does but would bet against a perfect tour |
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Post by brumoscardo on May 13, 2005 16:17:06 GMT -5
i know someone who went to see U2 twice on the same tour and he said that they played the exact same songs and said the exact same things in between songs I can tell you the exact same thing. They played here and in Buenos Aires in 98 and it was the SAME thing. Not only the songs but the exact same jokes and same speech. I remember that a magazine got the front cover saying 'He says it to all the others' with Bono in the front cover with an Argetinean t-shirt, saying the sentences he told here in Brazil...  Therefore.. I stick with Oasis. |
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Post by bagel on May 13, 2005 16:17:54 GMT -5
Haha, yeah true
I guess I'd settle for them not getting in a car accident and canceling, like last time
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Post by oasispraetorian on May 13, 2005 17:48:11 GMT -5
oh dear...oh dear...oh dear.... oh dear....oh dear..........sell the ticket...... KNOBHEAD !!!!!!
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Post by fju2112 on May 13, 2005 18:21:04 GMT -5
very well put but i have seen them in both the usa and uk knebworth,lochlomond(scot),finsbury,wembley,earls court, there shows dont generate any extra passion from the band (liam and noel) there beacon theatre gig in nyc was just as passionate as earls court noel wrapped himself in a irish (yes irish) flag that was thrown onstage.the point is OASIS play the same in the USA (NYC AT LEAST) as they do the UK AS for your comment about changin the setlist cause there was no SUPERSONIC...NOEL on all his usa interviews said they will not play the songs they are sick (i guess supersonic is 1 of them) he said they were bored playin the same "old tunes" so i look for no supersonic he did say they will play live forever-wonderall-cs though well, all i can say is, the crowd has a lot to with how the show goes, and the gigs I've seen in boston, the fans suck - despite the fact that there are tons of college students who go to see them whenever they come here. i doubt nyc is a lot different, people here just don't go nuts at concerts like they do in england and other parts of the world, per the factors i mentioned before. |
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Post by brumoscardo on May 13, 2005 18:33:06 GMT -5
Because of the CROWD, I can see why some people would think Oasis' shows are fairly dull live; acts who interact with the crowd a bit more are considered more fun live because the fans are too afraid to pogo or whatever. I guess it's a cultural thing? I partially agree with what you're saying there mate but check this gig out: live4ever.proboards48.com/index.cgi?board=Media&action=display&thread=1115832751and tell me if they sounded dull.. I see what you mean but as Noel says, Oasis is always about music and they do every thing for you to listen to a quality gig musically. They do something wild like that once in a while. Denver 2001 is another great proof. |
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Post by Deleted on May 13, 2005 19:12:05 GMT -5
very well put but i have seen them in both the usa and uk knebworth,lochlomond(scot),finsbury,wembley,earls court, there shows dont generate any extra passion from the band (liam and noel) there beacon theatre gig in nyc was just as passionate as earls court noel wrapped himself in a irish (yes irish) flag that was thrown onstage.the point is OASIS play the same in the USA (NYC AT LEAST) as they do the UK AS for your comment about changin the setlist cause there was no SUPERSONIC...NOEL on all his usa interviews said they will not play the songs they are sick (i guess supersonic is 1 of them) he said they were bored playin the same "old tunes" so i look for no supersonic he did say they will play live forever-wonderall-cs though well, all i can say is, the crowd has a lot to with how the show goes, and the gigs I've seen in boston, the fans suck - despite the fact that there are tons of college students who go to see them whenever they come here. i doubt nyc is a lot different, people here just don't go nuts at concerts like they do in england and other parts of the world, per the factors i mentioned before. while i respect what your saying ,,u have got no clue...the fans at wembly the night LIAM treated us to one of the lamest gigs ever were just as MADFERIT as the night he was spot on...THE CROWD WAS THE SAME ...LIAM WAS OFF HIS TITS .....the gig sucked,the crowd has nothing to do with how OASIS play they have fucked up in the UK ,USA,BARCELONA, AUSTRALIA. the bottom line is if they are gettin on well we will have a great gig if not then who knows  ...you are going on about how great they play live in the UK CAUSE OF THE CROWD ::)I HAVE BEEN THERE BEEN TO 9 SHOWS THERE SO I CAN COMPARE THE 2 SETTINGS ...AND U ARE WRONG....I WILL BE AT MANCHESTER FOR 2 GIGS AND I WILL BE AT MSG AND IF THERE IS A DIFFERENCE I WILL POST ,BUT THERE HAS NEVER BEEN YET..I WILL GIVE U 1 BETTER THERE ARE PLENTY OF PEOPLE COMIN OVER FOR MSG I WILL POST A THREAD AFTER I COME BACK FROM MANCHESTER ASKING THE PEOPLE THAT SAW THEM IN BOTH COUNTRIES IF THEY NOTICED A DIFFERENCE... I GUARANTEE THE RESPONSE WILL BE THE MSG GIG WAS AS PASSIONATE BY THE BAND AS ANY IN THE UK 1 MORE THING DONT GO STATING THAT OASIS PERFORMANCES ARE DIFFERENT IF U HAVE NOT BEEN OVERSEAS TO SEE THEM ,CAUSE U HAVE NO BASIS TO COMPARE, I HAVE SEEN THEM AND IF THERE WAS A DIFFERENCE I WOULD SAY IT I HAVE A 3 LION TATTOO ON MY ARM I LOVE THE UK BUT U ARE WRONG HERE MY FREIND,,,3 LION TAT WILL BE SHOWN TO ANY DISBELIEVERS IN NYC MEET  ....MY RANT |
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Post by Deleted on May 13, 2005 19:21:18 GMT -5
very well put but i have seen them in both the usa and uk knebworth,lochlomond(scot),finsbury,wembley,earls court, there shows dont generate any extra passion from the band (liam and noel) there beacon theatre gig in nyc was just as passionate as earls court noel wrapped himself in a irish (yes irish) flag that was thrown onstage.the point is OASIS play the same in the USA (NYC AT LEAST) as they do the UK AS for your comment about changin the setlist cause there was no SUPERSONIC...NOEL on all his usa interviews said they will not play the songs they are sick (i guess supersonic is 1 of them) he said they were bored playin the same "old tunes" so i look for no supersonic he did say they will play live forever-wonderall-cs though well, all i can say is, the crowd has a lot to with how the show goes, and the gigs I've seen in boston, the fans suck - despite the fact that there are tons of college students who go to see them whenever they come here. i doubt nyc is a lot different, people here just don't go nuts at concerts like they do in england and other parts of the world, per the factors i mentioned before. AND BRO ..I AM NOT COMIN DOWN ON YOU ..U ARE PASSIONATE I RESPECT THAT...BUT YOUR WRONG ON THIS.THE MOST BEST GIG I EVER SAW WAS OASIS IN NYC...THE MOST INTENSE CROWD WAS EARLS COURT LONDON...THEY WERE NOT ANY DIFFERENT IN DEMEANOR THEY PLAYED THE SAME. |
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Post by Way Cool Jr. on May 13, 2005 19:25:43 GMT -5
I am getting ready to see Oasis in Chiacago and Boston and hope Liam's voice fails by then. Why? Well... Noel has to get on stage and play something different. He and the band will not have to the set list from the night before, which was the set list from the night before, which was the set list from the gig before and so on. They are the greatest group in the world, but their live performances are pretty weak. I have seen them front row countless times and only wish their songs would change from show to show. If Liam's voice fails, at least I'll am assured of getting an acoustic set. everything you said is retarded, their setlist does change except for a few classics. and they are usually very good live with minimal exceptions. Sometimes it aint the music, or the songs, the singing, the guitars, that make or break a show, its everything together, its the atmosphere...that's what I found better at an oasis concert than any others. The anticipation too.. |
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Post by Deleted on May 13, 2005 19:30:18 GMT -5
I am getting ready to see Oasis in Chiacago and Boston and hope Liam's voice fails by then. Why? Well... Noel has to get on stage and play something different. He and the band will not have to the set list from the night before, which was the set list from the night before, which was the set list from the gig before and so on. They are the greatest group in the world, but their live performances are pretty weak. I have seen them front row countless times and only wish their songs would change from show to show. If Liam's voice fails, at least I'll am assured of getting an acoustic set. everything you said is retarded, their setlist does change except for a few classics. and they are usually very good live with minimal exceptions. Sometimes it aint the music, or the songs, the singing, the guitars, that make or break a show, its everything together, its the atmosphere...that's what I found better at an oasis concert than any others. The anticipation too.. totally agree..he is a contadiction in his own words..he blames the "lame"usa crowds but i have seen them in both countries "crowds "dont affect liam ...he says he wants change in sets.go to 1 show ? then u will need not worry about change...what the fuck is so hard about that? |
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Post by zunoasis on May 13, 2005 19:31:25 GMT -5
Well its a bit ridiculous to expect a different set list every fucking show man, what band does do that? Phish, Dave Matthews Band, Grateful Dead, etc. Jam bands ;D However, Oasis is not a jam band and I don't want them to be one. I love a jam band (hearing phish do the whole white album rocks when its completely unexpected!) concerts, but I want an OASIS ROCK CONCERT. ah, a man with good taste in music! it should be noted that in nearly 40 years of playing together, the Dead played the same setlist only a handful of times, and this was back in their early years. I'd be happy if Noel came out and played a 3 or 4 accoustic set, mixing up the songs each night. he could probably rattle off a few gems and some oldies here and there. It be nice to have small element of surprise at each show |
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Post by thebluesgnr on May 13, 2005 19:48:07 GMT -5
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Post by fju2112 on May 14, 2005 7:19:28 GMT -5
Because of the CROWD, I can see why some people would think Oasis' shows are fairly dull live; acts who interact with the crowd a bit more are considered more fun live because the fans are too afraid to pogo or whatever. I guess it's a cultural thing? I partially agree with what you're saying there mate but check this gig out: live4ever.proboards48.com/index.cgi?board=Media&action=display&thread=1115832751and tell me if they sounded dull.. I see what you mean but as Noel says, Oasis is always about music and they do every thing for you to listen to a quality gig musically. They do something wild like that once in a while. Denver 2001 is another great proof. I didn't say they were dull, I said because of the crowd, I can see why those people (wankers) would say they're dull...I don't think the show itself is ever dull at all...I'm always having it at an Oasis gig but overall I feel like people here just don't really get excited at rock concerts anymore, and I have to wonder why they bother paying. |
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Post by fju2112 on May 14, 2005 7:24:12 GMT -5
well, all i can say is, the crowd has a lot to with how the show goes, and the gigs I've seen in boston, the fans suck - despite the fact that there are tons of college students who go to see them whenever they come here. i doubt nyc is a lot different, people here just don't go nuts at concerts like they do in england and other parts of the world, per the factors i mentioned before. while i respect what your saying ,,u have got no clue...the fans at wembly the night LIAM treated us to one of the lamest gigs ever were just as MADFERIT as the night he was spot on...THE CROWD WAS THE SAME ...LIAM WAS OFF HIS TITS .....the gig sucked,the crowd has nothing to do with how OASIS play they have fucked up in the UK ,USA,BARCELONA, AUSTRALIA. the bottom line is if they are gettin on well we will have a great gig if not then who knows ...you are going on about how great they play live in the UK CAUSE OF THE CROWD ::)I HAVE BEEN THERE BEEN TO 9 SHOWS THERE SO I CAN COMPARE THE 2 SETTINGS ...AND U ARE WRONG....I WILL BE AT MANCHESTER FOR 2 GIGS AND I WILL BE AT MSG AND IF THERE IS A DIFFERENCE I WILL POST ,BUT THERE HAS NEVER BEEN YET..I WILL GIVE U 1 BETTER THERE ARE PLENTY OF PEOPLE COMIN OVER FOR MSG I WILL POST A THREAD AFTER I COME BACK FROM MANCHESTER ASKING THE PEOPLE THAT SAW THEM IN BOTH COUNTRIES IF THEY NOTICED A DIFFERENCE... I GUARANTEE THE RESPONSE WILL BE THE MSG GIG WAS AS PASSIONATE BY THE BAND AS ANY IN THE UK 1 MORE THING DONT GO STATING THAT OASIS PERFORMANCES ARE DIFFERENT IF U HAVE NOT BEEN OVERSEAS TO SEE THEM ,CAUSE U HAVE NO BASIS TO COMPARE, I HAVE SEEN THEM AND IF THERE WAS A DIFFERENCE I WOULD SAY IT I HAVE A 3 LION TATTOO ON MY ARM I LOVE THE UK BUT U ARE WRONG HERE MY FREIND,,,3 LION TAT WILL BE SHOWN TO ANY DISBELIEVERS IN NYC MEET ....MY RANT All of you really seem to be missing the point. I didn't say Oasis play with a different vibe DUE to the crowd, I said the crowd drive's the individual's experience at a show. All I'm saying is, I don't think I'd have nearly as much fun at an Oasis show here as in another part of the world where the crowd is better. I have about 100 oasis boolegged shows and I've listened to them all - trust me, I know that Oasis sound the same wherever they go. You're just missing my point. |
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Post by Deleted on May 14, 2005 8:36:09 GMT -5
while i respect what your saying ,,u have got no clue...the fans at wembly the night LIAM treated us to one of the lamest gigs ever were just as MADFERIT as the night he was spot on...THE CROWD WAS THE SAME ...LIAM WAS OFF HIS TITS .....the gig sucked,the crowd has nothing to do with how OASIS play they have fucked up in the UK ,USA,BARCELONA, AUSTRALIA. the bottom line is if they are gettin on well we will have a great gig if not then who knows ...you are going on about how great they play live in the UK CAUSE OF THE CROWD ::)I HAVE BEEN THERE BEEN TO 9 SHOWS THERE SO I CAN COMPARE THE 2 SETTINGS ...AND U ARE WRONG....I WILL BE AT MANCHESTER FOR 2 GIGS AND I WILL BE AT MSG AND IF THERE IS A DIFFERENCE I WILL POST ,BUT THERE HAS NEVER BEEN YET..I WILL GIVE U 1 BETTER THERE ARE PLENTY OF PEOPLE COMIN OVER FOR MSG I WILL POST A THREAD AFTER I COME BACK FROM MANCHESTER ASKING THE PEOPLE THAT SAW THEM IN BOTH COUNTRIES IF THEY NOTICED A DIFFERENCE... I GUARANTEE THE RESPONSE WILL BE THE MSG GIG WAS AS PASSIONATE BY THE BAND AS ANY IN THE UK 1 MORE THING DONT GO STATING THAT OASIS PERFORMANCES ARE DIFFERENT IF U HAVE NOT BEEN OVERSEAS TO SEE THEM ,CAUSE U HAVE NO BASIS TO COMPARE, I HAVE SEEN THEM AND IF THERE WAS A DIFFERENCE I WOULD SAY IT I HAVE A 3 LION TATTOO ON MY ARM I LOVE THE UK BUT U ARE WRONG HERE MY FREIND,,,3 LION TAT WILL BE SHOWN TO ANY DISBELIEVERS IN NYC MEET ....MY RANT All of you really seem to be missing the point. I didn't say Oasis play with a different vibe DUE to the crowd, I said the crowd drive's the individual's experience at a show. All I'm saying is, I don't think I'd have nearly as much fun at an Oasis show here as in another part of the world where the crowd is better. I have about 100 oasis boolegged shows and I've listened to them all - trust me, I know that Oasis sound the same wherever they go. You're just missing my point. ok ,,,well i can tell u this the best gig i ever saw was oasis in nyc knebworth was second wembley third... |
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Post by Tam on May 14, 2005 20:35:02 GMT -5
I understand you are a Noel fan... so am I ...
HOWEVER, you'll have to wait til noel retires from oasis (which he says NEVER) and puts out a solo album.
Oasis is 4 people now. not one...
I am not sure why you posted this, I wish you no harm though. cheers, Tam
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Post by RobboAus on May 15, 2005 3:11:38 GMT -5
It would be good to have some Noel gigs like on the HC Tour but wishing Liam's voice to fall off is going a bit too far.  |
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Post by 10 - Nick McCabe on May 15, 2005 3:45:07 GMT -5
you´re fuckin´ drunk man
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Post by gowerlee on May 16, 2005 23:58:34 GMT -5
I am getting ready to see Oasis in Chiacago and Boston and hope Liam's voice fails by then. Why? Well... Noel has to get on stage and play something different. He and the band will not have to the set list from the night before, which was the set list from the night before, which was the set list from the gig before and so on. They are the greatest group in the world, but their live performances are pretty weak. I have seen them front row countless times and only wish their songs would change from show to show. If Liam's voice fails, at least I'll am assured of getting an acoustic set. Can you smell something? Horse? Cow? Shee?.......... No. it's definitely BULLSHIT!!!!!!!!!!!!! What a TWAT!!!!!!!!!!!! |
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Post by crazycanuck4 on May 17, 2005 1:20:55 GMT -5
 rediculous one thing that really pisses me off though is that the floor seats here are seats rather than general admission, ive never seen oasis but i will in manchester then again in vancouver and seattle in september but who the fuck wants to sit down in a chair, i can almost guarantee i'll have much more fun in manchester cos of the crowd... thats something that i definitely dont agree with
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Post by psj3809 on May 17, 2005 3:44:41 GMT -5
I am getting ready to see Oasis in Chiacago and Boston and hope Liam's voice fails by then. Why? Well... Noel has to get on stage and play something different. He and the band will not have to the set list from the night before, which was the set list from the night before, which was the set list from the gig before and so on. They are the greatest group in the world, but their live performances are pretty weak. I have seen them front row countless times and only wish their songs would change from show to show. If Liam's voice fails, at least I'll am assured of getting an acoustic set. This is just bizarre. Even people who dont like Oasis admit that theyre excellent when they perform live, won a few awards for best live band as well. I personally dont like the Noel acoustic set, Oasis to me are all about Liam. As for changing songs show to show are you serious ? This must be an April Fools. How many bands out there on tour change their set everytime ??!?! None. Its ridiculous to think they'll do a new show with new songs on every single gig they do. Ridiculous |
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...you are going on about how great they play live in the UK CAUSE OF THE CROWD ::)I HAVE BEEN THERE BEEN TO 9 SHOWS THERE SO I CAN COMPARE THE 2 SETTINGS ...AND U ARE WRONG....I WILL BE AT MANCHESTER FOR 2 GIGS AND I WILL BE AT MSG AND IF THERE IS A DIFFERENCE I WILL POST ,BUT THERE HAS NEVER BEEN YET..I WILL GIVE U 1 BETTER THERE ARE PLENTY OF PEOPLE COMIN OVER FOR MSG I WILL POST A THREAD AFTER I COME BACK FROM MANCHESTER ASKING THE PEOPLE THAT SAW THEM IN BOTH COUNTRIES IF THEY NOTICED A DIFFERENCE...
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