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Post by DixonHill on Jul 2, 2005 14:03:13 GMT -5
...is about Tony Blair and the Iraq war. (so says Noel in Q magazine).
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Post by harry on Jul 2, 2005 17:21:16 GMT -5
I think he said something like that on XFM the week of the album release as well
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Post by chocolate st*rfish on Jul 4, 2005 16:56:39 GMT -5
i was kind of wondering when reading the lyrics..makes sense
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Post by Noel's Barmy Army on Jul 5, 2005 11:18:52 GMT -5
ahhh!
u hear the lyrics and it all makes sense!
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Post by missmolko on Jul 5, 2005 15:49:03 GMT -5
listens to it again ;D
yeah it makes sense
it's one of my faves
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Post by ddemarco on Jul 5, 2005 21:04:24 GMT -5
It is a very political song. The lyrics are quite clearly attacking America (and its supporters) for starting another war in Iraq for no reason. For example:
"You get your history from the Union Jack" = US
"You get your mucky fingers burnt" = US getting screwed for starting a war (1,000+ soldiers dead, most now realize they lied about WMD and Iraq's connection to Al Qaeda, nobody trusts the US presidency)
"You get your truth from the lies you will learn" = how American public bought Bush's BS about Iraq's involvement in 9/11, WMD...
"And all your plastic believers will leave us and they won't return" = blindly patriotic Americans believeing in a war based on false pretenses
"and all your brothers and sisters have gone and they wont come back" = soldiers dying for their country for no reason
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Post by Beady’s Here Now on Jul 5, 2005 23:33:06 GMT -5
well done!!
theres 3 possible meanings that ive heard
1.) Noel is literally fed up in the city (too simplistic me thinks)
2.) The one posted aobve about the US (i support the war, but i understand how those lyrics make sense in context..V CLEVER and puts Eminems Mosh to shame)
3.) Tony Blair
--can someone explain how it would apply to Blair though?
def one of my fav songs, amazingly done
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Post by giggergrl on Jul 6, 2005 1:56:52 GMT -5
and ppl slagged Noel off for not saying relevant things... well have some of this ! the whole part about "when you look in that mirror and yer tying up your buttons and bows,,, and as you face your disease...... you can squeeze into the emporor's clothes..." My noel is BRILLIANT !  |
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Post by StepOut on Jul 6, 2005 2:00:23 GMT -5
It is a very political song. The lyrics are quite clearly attacking America (and its supporters) for starting another war in Iraq for no reason. For example: "You get your history from the Union Jack" = US "You get your mucky fingers burnt" = US getting screwed for starting a war (1,000+ soldiers dead, most now realize they lied about WMD and Iraq's connection to Al Qaeda, nobody trusts the US presidency) "You get your truth from the lies you will learn" = how American public bought Bush's BS about Iraq's involvement in 9/11, WMD... "And all your plastic believers will leave us and they won't return" = blindly patriotic Americans believeing in a war based on false pretenses "and all your brothers and sisters have gone and they wont come back" = soldiers dying for their country for no reason Nice work  |
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Post by giggergrl on Jul 6, 2005 2:03:14 GMT -5
It is a very political song. The lyrics are quite clearly attacking America (and its supporters) for starting another war in Iraq for no reason. For example: "You get your history from the Union Jack" = US "You get your mucky fingers burnt" = US getting screwed for starting a war (1,000+ soldiers dead, most now realize they lied about WMD and Iraq's connection to Al Qaeda, nobody trusts the US presidency) "You get your truth from the lies you will learn" = how American public bought Bush's BS about Iraq's involvement in 9/11, WMD... "And all your plastic believers will leave us and they won't return" = blindly patriotic Americans believeing in a war based on false pretenses "and all your brothers and sisters have gone and they wont come back" = soldiers dying for their country for no reason well done ! agreed Noel is disenchanted/disillusioned with the current events... he reportedly used to stress about Nukes too. and write about it in his journals in his youth. that is a M-A-N ! |
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Post by ddemarco on Jul 6, 2005 22:26:00 GMT -5
Thanks guys and gals.
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Post by magrelo on Jul 9, 2005 22:40:32 GMT -5
I don't known why you're all concerned about the lyrics, the song is tuneless.
Worst Oasis song ever!!! Shouldn't even be a b-side.
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Post by jobero on Jul 16, 2005 0:25:32 GMT -5
I don't known why you're all concerned about the lyrics, the song is tuneless. When i first heard MF - on The Jo Whiley show a week before the release of the album - i really didn't like the song, mainly because of it being "tuneless" as you put it magrelo but now i love it - because of the "tuneless" nautre of the song! ;D That tells you alot about my feelings towards Oasis - somedays certain songs sound amazing other days they bore me. Interesting stuff regarding the lyrics. Nice to see Noel writing about something.  |
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Post by oasisintheusa on Jul 17, 2005 8:31:42 GMT -5
Glad its about that. I can't stand the war personally, this generation's Vietnam. Glad Noel attacked Bush about it. Too bad no one in the mainstream will care like they did with Eminem. Oh well.
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Post by rockandroll on Jul 17, 2005 17:42:13 GMT -5
I don't known why you're all concerned about the lyrics, the song is tuneless. Worst Oasis song ever!!! Shouldn't even be a b-side. Are you on crack?  I love the fact that Noel put a thought into the lyrics....a frantic drumbeat should always have good lyrics (I'm waiting for the man) |
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Post by lyla on Jul 27, 2005 3:31:16 GMT -5
and noel always said his lyrics mean shit all =P changin his tune now, eh? oh well, i think its for the best, makes the lyrics more itneresting. anyway, whatever noel has said previously, i have always liekd his lyrics - simple and honest and in your face, and they have always meant something to me. but then again, i think everything gains meaning if you read into it enough...
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Post by belfastdon on Jul 27, 2005 9:26:23 GMT -5
I don't known why you're all concerned about the lyrics, the song is tuneless. Worst Oasis song ever!!! Shouldn't even be a b-side. idiot |
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Post by giggergrl on Jul 27, 2005 10:14:29 GMT -5
I don't known why you're all concerned about the lyrics, the song is tuneless. Worst Oasis song ever!!! Shouldn't even be a b-side. Are you on crack? I love the fact that Noel put a thought into the lyrics....a frantic drumbeat should always have good lyrics (I'm waiting for the man) precisely.... well said luv, Tam |
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Post by rockandroll on Jul 27, 2005 12:12:31 GMT -5
and noel always said his lyrics mean shit all =P changin his tune now, eh? oh well, i think its for the best, makes the lyrics more itneresting. anyway, whatever noel has said previously, i have always liekd his lyrics - simple and honest and in your face, and they have always meant something to me. but then again, i think everything gains meaning if you read into it enough... I think Noel has always been great with one liners rather than whole lyrics for a song...some exceptions of course....his one liners are mega though! |
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Post by thorndike on Jul 31, 2005 14:31:59 GMT -5
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Post by peregrin on Aug 2, 2005 10:50:47 GMT -5
I think let there be love is older, but who cares, maybe noel rewrote the lyrics, and he said it, he said is about Irak, he wrote the song. Liam usually thinks that all the noel lyrics are about him ;D MF is a great song, I hope noel put more interest in make good lyrics in the future |
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Post by koeman4 on Aug 3, 2005 21:43:01 GMT -5
prob my least fav song off the album,its good live,noel said on one live gig it was about gardeing lol
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Post by Way Cool Jr. on Aug 3, 2005 22:43:57 GMT -5
believe what you want, I personally can't see any obvious connection to the Iraq war...personally, i think you all are making stretches about fucking song lyrics. No one has produced any quotes from noel backing up that it is about the war. I personally just think it's about church and religion foremost, distrust in government, and the pessimistic urban life of city people...nothing specific about the Iraq war. What I said comes directly from the lyrics, no stretches whatsoever
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Post by Way Cool Jr. on Aug 3, 2005 22:44:50 GMT -5
It is a very political song. The lyrics are quite clearly attacking America (and its supporters) for starting another war in Iraq for no reason. For example: "You get your history from the Union Jack" = US "You get your mucky fingers burnt" = US getting screwed for starting a war (1,000+ soldiers dead, most now realize they lied about WMD and Iraq's connection to Al Qaeda, nobody trusts the US presidency) "You get your truth from the lies you will learn" = how American public bought Bush's BS about Iraq's involvement in 9/11, WMD... "And all your plastic believers will leave us and they won't return" = blindly patriotic Americans believeing in a war based on false pretenses "and all your brothers and sisters have gone and they wont come back" = soldiers dying for their country for no reason you're a fool, but believe what you will and put words into noel's mouth |
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