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Post by pizzy on May 19, 2005 15:25:56 GMT -5
i've heard they dont pay taxes...is that true? and tourism is not a willing contribution... does it matter if its willing, if they wernt here, we wouldnt get it not too sure about that myself... i'm sure people go to London to see the whole package, houses of parliaments etc. If the royal family was taken out of the equation would it make alot of difference??? I don't think so
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Post by wankinginthebushes on May 19, 2005 15:28:01 GMT -5
does it matter if its willing, if they wernt here, we wouldnt get it not too sure about that myself... i'm sure people go to London to see the whole package, houses of parliaments etc. If the royal family was taken out of the equation would it make alot of difference??? I don't think so like i said before, ive studied this and got a good grade so please dont insult my intelligence
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Post by pizzy on May 19, 2005 15:31:33 GMT -5
not too sure about that myself... i'm sure people go to London to see the whole package, houses of parliaments etc. If the royal family was taken out of the equation would it make alot of difference??? I don't think so like i said before, ive studied this and got a good grade so please dont insult my intelligence oh hang on everyone.... wankinginthebushes has studied this... so obviously he is the only person entitled to an opinion... everyone else is wrong...
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Post by wankinginthebushes on May 19, 2005 15:34:30 GMT -5
did i say that? i dont think i did.
you said something that was wrong. I corrected you but you still dont give up....so until you study it and we are able to have a proper conversation, dont make out like im wrong
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Post by pizzy on May 19, 2005 15:37:21 GMT -5
you didn't correct me, and by your insane logic , I think you should leave this forum... cause you have never studied music therefore you are not entitled to an opinion on oasis or any music.
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Post by caro on May 19, 2005 15:39:00 GMT -5
and you haven't answered my question about taxes...
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Post by wankinginthebushes on May 19, 2005 15:40:54 GMT -5
cause you have never studied music havent i? sorry i didnt mean 'you' as a personal reference, 'you' being all the people who said theyre vaginas and dont do anything but sit on their arses all day, just because of what they read in tabloids.
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Post by pizzy on May 19, 2005 15:42:43 GMT -5
most tabloids are overwhelmingly in support of the royal family
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Post by wankinginthebushes on May 19, 2005 15:51:06 GMT -5
Maybe so, but they can still shine a negative light on them.
Look my point is that wether you like them or not, they bring fuck loads of money to this economy. FACT. If you dont believe me pizzy, well thats not my problem your not willing to learn anything.
And the royal family do not sit on their arses all day, ok well maybe the 3rd cousins for example who dont have any powers but have the money. However, the queen plays a very important role as our head of state.
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Post by wankinginthebushes on May 19, 2005 15:53:22 GMT -5
and you haven't answered my question about taxes... They are exempt from inheritence tax, but not others EDIT: They are exempt from 95% of taxes but make voluntary donations
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Post by pizzy on May 19, 2005 16:47:52 GMT -5
However, the queen plays a very important role as our head of state. what?
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Post by caro on May 19, 2005 16:51:24 GMT -5
and you haven't answered my question about taxes... They are exempt from inheritence tax, but not others EDIT: They are exempt from 95% of taxes but make voluntary donations ok ;D
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Post by wankinginthebushes on May 19, 2005 16:53:34 GMT -5
However, the queen plays a very important role as our head of state. what? what do you mean what? what is there not to understand
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Post by pizzy on May 19, 2005 17:00:57 GMT -5
what is so important in her role as head of state. You said I was unwilling to learn... teach me, 'cause I honestly fail to see any importance in her role as head of state.
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Post by wankinginthebushes on May 19, 2005 17:08:59 GMT -5
lol are you taking the piss?
your saying that her role of head of the state isnt important?
"While acting constitutionally, the Sovereign retains an important political role as Head of State, formally appointing prime ministers, approving certain legislation and bestowing honours."
thats not important?
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Post by pizzy on May 19, 2005 17:19:40 GMT -5
lol are you taking the piss? your saying that her role of head of the state isnt important? "While acting constitutionally, the Sovereign retains an important political role as Head of State, formally appointing prime ministers, approving certain legislation and bestowing honours." thats not important? lol of course it's not important. formally appointing prime ministers: The people vote for the prime minister, what the queen does is formality, has no real power. approving certain legislation: again, just a formallity. The prime minister is the person with the power, and in this respect the queen has no more power than the people. bestowing honours: you know yourself that the honours the queen bestows is bollocks, don't you??
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Post by wankinginthebushes on May 19, 2005 17:27:22 GMT -5
LMFAO!! i cant believe that you think that the hea dof our state is not important!!! In terms of government "The prime minister is normally the leader of the party which has a majority in Parliament, but there could still be exceptional circumstances when The Queen might need to exercise the discretion she still retains to ensure that her Government is carried on" Now this is the biggie... "The monarch is Head of the Armed Forces and it is the monarch alone who can declare war and peace." Now please forgive me if im wrong, but thats one fuck of an important job. But according to you, her job isnt important.
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Post by pizzy on May 19, 2005 17:33:28 GMT -5
of course it's not important, your living in a dream world mate. The queen will do whatever tony blair advises her to do, otherwise the government would be a shambles. The royal family has had no importance for many years now. The queens role is merely symbollic, and if she made any decision on her own it would undermine the whole country who elected tony blair to make decisions.
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Post by wankinginthebushes on May 19, 2005 17:43:37 GMT -5
lol, whatever mate. dream world? why? Im not some massive fan of hers. anybody that has the power to dissolve government, has a pretty important job in my eyes, anybody who has the final choice whether or not to go to war has a pretty important job in my eyes. anybody who brings the amount of money she does to our country is a pretty big key figure in my eyes. I can see were never gonna agree so we might as well call it that. You have your views and i have mine. still been nice debating with ya tho so in thst case, have some good karma ;D
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Post by pizzy on May 19, 2005 17:48:55 GMT -5
alright mate..i'll karma ya when i can again ... but i still think any power she has is honoury and not reallistically usable.
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Post by globe on May 19, 2005 18:31:18 GMT -5
She put an end to the "British disease." She put Britain back to work. She might have put a lot of people back to work when she first came into power, but she put them back on the dole again, not once, but twice. She resided over two major recessions in 11 years in office. Blair has been in power for 8 and there is no sign of a major recession happening. Her policies created a boom and bust economy in this country thats why her own party got rid of her. Loads of people did well under her, but the gap between rich and poor also got wider. She didn't give a flying fuck about working people in the North of England, Scotland or Wales. Thats why nobody voted for her in these places. Best post-war PM? Give me Blair any day of the week.
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Post by pizzy on May 19, 2005 18:54:35 GMT -5
She put an end to the "British disease." She put Britain back to work. She didn't give a flying fuck about working people in the North of England, Scotland or Wales. she wasn't exactly kind to northern ireland either! and she was very lucky not to have been killed.
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Post by globe on May 19, 2005 19:05:36 GMT -5
She didn't give a flying fuck about working people in the North of England, Scotland or Wales. she wasn't exactly kind to northern ireland either! and she was very lucky not to have been killed. Yeah I know mate, but I just meant that politics is very different over there compared to the mainland. She hated anyone with an accent!
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Post by pizzy on May 19, 2005 19:26:42 GMT -5
not that I condone it but, "we only have to be lucky once, she has to be lucky everytime" is a good quote.
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Post by brumoscardo on May 19, 2005 19:51:11 GMT -5
This is quite interesting.. Keep going ;D
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