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Post by cigsandbooze on Mar 11, 2005 15:49:02 GMT -5
Oasis has stood the test of time. Some critics say that bands must progress. This obvioulsy worked for the Beatles and God bless them for they are the best band ever (Sorry everyone, Oasis takes a very close second). Oasis is such a great band they don't need to evolve. If it ain't broke, don't fix it. What bands, music trends, fabs, styles, etc. have fallen by the wayside since Oasis has been around?
I will start by saying Rap Metal. That shit is so 2001. Trucker baseball hats are so 2003.
Feel free to weigh in and give your opinion.
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Post by Gifford on Mar 11, 2005 16:35:33 GMT -5
i especially love that most of these bands who lash out at oasis in the press. look at the darkness for example. while i love them since i'm a HUGE van halen fan, they don't like oasis. but where are they now? most north americans call them a novertly band with 1 big hit. its still early in their career, but alot of people have already forgotten them.
likewise, alot of thesebands that call oasis their influences are really big bands now; coldplay, jet, the strokes, kasabian, whatever.
i think that while the alot of the music press doesnt want to admit it, oasis is a cultural touchstone.
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Post by cigsandbooze on Mar 11, 2005 16:43:36 GMT -5
Right on. I loved it when Justin Hawkins talked shit about Noel's guitar playing skills, said that Oasis was washed up, and that they would dominate in America. Where are they now? I saw The Darkness in St. Paul and it was actually a good gig but they still remind me of Spinal Tap. Oasis talked the talk but they also walked it. They will never have the fan base that Oasis has.
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Post by Nucleus on Mar 12, 2005 9:36:59 GMT -5
I'd say Girl Power... ;D
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Post by Dominic on Mar 12, 2005 9:43:48 GMT -5
well remeber the beatles only were out for what 7 years , oasis are into their eleventh , the beatles basically just changed from an appauling boybandish imagie into hippys , loads of people can fully change off regardless of quality , look at take that , at the start of their career had perxoide hair and wore leather , but they changed that around to a more boyband image of matching colours and love songs, id like to stress im not comparing take that to the beatles
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Post by Clint on Mar 12, 2005 12:54:05 GMT -5
Oasis not evolved? What are you on? They've evolved a lot musically. Each album was different and had a different feel to it. They definitley evolved a lot.
The 60s was a much different time. More records being released, more singles being released-- everythings all spaced out now. That's why bands are forgotten about so easily in the USA.
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Post by cigsandbooze on Mar 12, 2005 13:27:37 GMT -5
Oasis not evolved? What are you on? They've evolved a lot musically. Each album was different and had a different feel to it. They definitley evolved a lot. The 60s was a much different time. More records being released, more singles being released-- everythings all spaced out now. That's why bands are forgotten about so easily in the USA. Dude, we are on the same team. Oasis is the best band now and for the last 11 years. I think you are looking at Oasis with rose tinted lenses, you need to be objective. With that being said, I still can't agree that Oasis has evolved that much but that is the reason while I dig them so damn much. They play rock n roll, period. Yeah, if you compare DM to HC, they sound much different. But they never made leaps and bounds between each album. If you were to study the musical arrangements, compositions, timings, chords, tones, lyrics, etc it is evident that the Beatles evolved greatly and Oasis minimally. I bet Noel would agree too! Haha
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Post by Dominic on Mar 12, 2005 14:14:21 GMT -5
in saying that mate , ur saying that in 94 oasis should have been with the times and been some peice of piss in house dj like scooter or some shite and not been the artists that kicked down the barriers blockin real artists from playin real music
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Post by PartlyCloudlike on Mar 12, 2005 14:24:42 GMT -5
The Darkness made some catchy tunes and their persona was fun. Yet despite Justin's assurances, they were taking the piss which I thought undermined their draw to music fans -- where else can they go once the act gets old? Eighties heavy metal? Folk band? Being honest to themselves and their music is a big reason why people and artists still care about Oasis.
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Post by cigsandbooze on Mar 12, 2005 14:26:55 GMT -5
in saying that mate , ur saying that in 94 oasis should have been with the times and been some peice of piss in house dj like scooter or some shite and not been the artists that kicked down the barriers blockin real artists from playin real music Not at all, you are missing my whole point. Here it is: 1. Oasis v. All Other Bands. Oasis is head and shoulders above any other band. They have a distinct style unlike any other band and that has remained relatively the same throughout the years. This may be the bands biggest asset. 2. Oasis v. Beatles. God created the earth. The Beatles created the music we know now-a-days and Oasis is heavily influenced by them.
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Post by cigsandbooze on Mar 12, 2005 14:28:24 GMT -5
The Darkness made some catchy tunes and their persona was fun. Yet despite Justin's assurances, they were taking the piss which I thought undermined their draw to music fans -- where else can they go once the act gets old? Eighties heavy metal? Folk band? Being honest to themselves and their music is a big reason why people and artists still care about Oasis. I fully agree.
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Post by jobero on Mar 13, 2005 2:02:27 GMT -5
I am not a huge music fan and don't claim to know a lot about music but Oasis have evolved, i think Gem and Andy are much better musicians than Guigs and Bonehead (god love em') and have massivley helped Oasis slightly change their style and become 'more musicly aware' if you understand, i mean the band have moved and could never write another 'Girl In The Dirty Shirt' or 'Stay Young' because that isn't them now. Fair do's the electricity and youthfulness may have gone out of Oasis' music in their last 2 albums but they are extremeley good albums with some real music on it. Sadly, the world and Oasis have moved on and they have had their period of dominace when they changed music and the whole world new exactly what they was doing on them long summer nights in the mid-90's with Oasis hammering out and sinking a few Uri Gellers but they can still make great music (if quite different) and tour in front of their loyal fans.
OASIS 4 EVER!
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Post by Dominic on Mar 13, 2005 6:04:39 GMT -5
Not at all, you are missing my whole point. Here it is: 1. Oasis v. All Other Bands. Oasis is head and shoulders above any other band. They have a distinct style unlike any other band and that has remained relatively the same throughout the years. This may be the bands biggest asset. 2. Oasis v. Beatles. God created the earth. The Beatles created the music we know now-a-days and Oasis is heavily influenced by them. the beatles were incredible but to give them that credit is tooo far , nearly every recognised artist stole music or took inspereation from somewhere else, was it not mc cartney who said the beatles would have been a boy band if it wasnt for pet sounds?
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Post by holdonecho on Mar 13, 2005 10:47:18 GMT -5
as a huge oasis fan, who has been an avid supporter for the last ten years, the most difficult part has been the dissapointment that has been there on a fairly consistent basis since 1997.
for those of you who are too young, or don't remember, oasis was on top of the world after wtsmg...they were the critics darling and people were expecting something very special, very 'sgt pepper' in scope. well bhn happened and while it was good it was far from anything new. (fuck, the first single dykwim lifted the chords from wonderwall).
I have watched music's new breath of fresh air turn into dinosaurs in the last eight years.
I love them, but even i have to admit that the quality has taken a nose dive.
there wasn't a daft track on either of the first two albums but honestly how many songs stand out on hc?
scyho is a classic that harkens back to the wtsmg days. what else? maybe ht. songbird?
i used to look forward to new albums...i believed that they would sweep the world with their new sound and return themselves to where they stood during the early summer of 1997.
well 1997 was a long time ago and if anything, i have very little expectation for the new album.
at least i won't be disappointed.
btw, oasis (who are my favourite band in the world) don't hold a candle to the fab four.
if anything, it is a scarry thought when you realize that without a doubt, oasis's best music came during their first two years while the beatles poorest music came in its first two years.
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Post by Dominic on Mar 13, 2005 10:57:12 GMT -5
i think many people belieive the beatles are the best simply because their told their the best, i dont no alll of the beatles stuff, i have about 35 songs on my pc, i have about 105 different oasis tracks, not including demos, live recordings , and other poeple covering them, so to me personally oasis are the best band, simply because i no all their stuff, i think people should judge after hearing the complete catalogs of artists
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Post by holdonecho on Mar 13, 2005 11:26:13 GMT -5
i think many people belieive the beatles are the best simply because their told their the best, i dont no alll of the beatles stuff, i have about 35 songs on my pc, i have about 105 different oasis tracks, not including demos, live recordings , and other poeple covering them, so to me personally oasis are the best band, simply because i no all their stuff, i think people should judge after hearing the complete catalogs of artists well if you like oasis then you should definatly get to know the beatles beyond thirty five songs. go and buy the albums...start with rubber soul, revolver, sgt. peppers, the white album or abbey road. put it in on your stereo and play it all the way through. as for your 35 songs, i hope these are in your collection... dear prudence while my guitar gently weeps tomorrow never knows julia in my life two of us girl nowhere man strawberry fields forever across the universe ticket to ride i feel fine if i fell happiness is a warm gun blackbird yer blues a day in the life lucy in the sky with diamonds sexy sadie being for the benefit of mister kite eleanor rigby she came in through the bathroom window mean mister mustard yes it is i'm down rain day tripper download the ones you don't have and then after you are done that, tell me and i'll give you another 100 songs that are just as amazing.
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Post by cigsandbooze on Mar 13, 2005 11:35:35 GMT -5
i think many people belieive the beatles are the best simply because their told their the best, i dont no alll of the beatles stuff, i have about 35 songs on my pc, i have about 105 different oasis tracks, not including demos, live recordings , and other poeple covering them, so to me personally oasis are the best band, simply because i no all their stuff, i think people should judge after hearing the complete catalogs of artists I agree that people should make a judgment after hearing the whole catalog. I have been obsessed with the Beatles and Oasis since I was about 16 years old. 9 years later, I think I have heard just about every song by both bands. Christ, I even have most of the Beatles and all of Oasis on vinyl. "In my well paid opinion," I think the Beatles have an definite edge on Oasis. I don't think I have over credited the Beatles and I think Oasis have been under-credited in the last 5 years. Yeah, it is pretty odd that Oasis made their best music in their early years and the Beatles made their best music in their later years. Oasis has the best debut album ever, the Beatles sucked early on in their career.
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Post by cigsandbooze on Mar 13, 2005 11:41:22 GMT -5
well if you like oasis then you should definatly get to know the beatles beyond thirty five songs. go and buy the albums...start with rubber soul, revolver, sgt. peppers, the white album or abbey road. put it in on your stereo and play it all the way through. as for your 35 songs, i hope these are in your collection... dear prudence while my guitar gently weeps tomorrow never knows julia in my life two of us girl nowhere man strawberry fields forever across the universe ticket to ride i feel fine if i fell happiness is a warm gun blackbird yer blues a day in the life lucy in the sky with diamonds sexy sadie being for the benefit of mister kite eleanor rigby she came in through the bathroom window mean mister mustard yes it is i'm down rain day tripper download the ones you don't have and then after you are done that, tell me and i'll give you another 100 songs that are just as amazing. Right on. The best Beatles albums are: Rubber Soul Revolver (My favorite) Sgt. Peppers Lonely Hearts Club Band The White Album (2nd favorite) Abbey Road Let It Be I can take or leave any Beatles songs before 1964. The only reason I listen to the early stuff is because my girlfriend likes it. That is exactly what it is, bitch music. LOL.
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Post by Nucleus on Mar 13, 2005 11:58:06 GMT -5
Wrestling sort of came and went from 1998 - 2001. Eventhough I still like it, I actually knew someone else who did back then.
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Post by cigsandbooze on Mar 13, 2005 12:04:42 GMT -5
I was never really into wrestling but my college roommates where. I now it was huge back then but I never here about it now.
Does anyone remeber tight rolled jeans back in the very early 1990's? Man, that was some lame shit. I actually had a boss that tight rolled his jeans up until about 2001. What a effen loser he was.
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Post by holdonecho on Mar 13, 2005 12:12:07 GMT -5
wrestling enjoyed it's third great revival from 1996-2000 (the first being the golden age of tv in the mid-fifties, the second being hulkamania in the mid to late 80's). there were a few factor's for it's takeoff but it probably hinged on the allure of its top performers stone cold steve austin and the rock.
in the last couple of years the talent drop off has been noticable and the writing has become tired and desperate.
i never watch raw anymore. ric flair is almost paul mccartneys age for godsake!!
there back to music
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Post by Deleted on Mar 13, 2005 18:29:31 GMT -5
ah but nobody could take BRUNO SAMMARTINO CHAMP OF WWF FROM 1963-1971 THEN 1975-1981 GOOD THING ITS NOT A FIXES SPORT
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Post by Noel's Barmy Army on Mar 13, 2005 19:41:40 GMT -5
I prefer Lennon's solo stuff - its edgier. In regards to Oasis, it does piss me off when I read/hear ppl say they 'havent progressed'. I think Noel summed it up wiv his comment about radiohead and 'beard stroking'. Plus when you listen to the albums, there is a different sound - from bhn with its umpteen guitar parts to sotsg with its trippy backward guitarring and mellotrone to hc's back to basics rock n roll... basically, a lot of oasis haters see the anti oasis bandwagon parked outside their house and decide 'hey Ill be a dick and express my opinions after some other cock has given them to me and jump on!' for the new album, the media will vaccillate between 'same old, same old' to 'close to top form' Still in the UK 330,000 concert tickets to see Oasis over the summer were sold pretty fuckin sharpish. On top of that u can still get tickets (at time of writin) for the night oasis arent playin in chelmsford or staffordshire for the V Festival, but the night oasis are playin are sold out. 11 yrs on since the release of DM - if that isnt a testament to their stayin power, then wot is? wotever ppl say about noel and liam - at least they havent become like bono. he is a massive, massive cock. thanks for reading it!
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Post by Deleted on Mar 13, 2005 19:47:33 GMT -5
Still in the UK 330,000 concert tickets to see Oasis over the summer were sold pretty fuckin sharpish. On top of that u can still get tickets (at time of writin) for the night oasis arent playin in chelmsford or staffordshire for the V Festival, but the night oasis are playin are sold out. 11 yrs on since the release of DM - if that isnt a testament to their stayin power, then wot is? thats me givin YOU A STANDING FUCKIN OVATION ...WELL SAID,NUFF SAID wotever ppl say about noel and liam - at least they havent become like bono. he is a massive, massive cock. thanks for reading it!
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Post by Deleted on Mar 13, 2005 19:48:50 GMT -5
AS U CAN SEE i fucked that post up . but WELL DONE BARMY
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