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Post by webm@ster on Mar 2, 2005 19:50:28 GMT -5
A college mags view : Oasis Returns with a New Album and Concerts in NYC By David Rochford The 1990s Britpop scene brought some of the finest musicians of the decade. Radiohead was the strange band that appealed to the intellectual audience. Blur and Pulp were significant bands in Britain that never made it big in America. And there was Oasis, who took their overwhelming success in Europe and translated it into worldwide success in the mid-1990s. After a five year absence of touring in America, Oasis recently decided to plan a tour this upcoming summer with very special guests, Australian rockers Jet. Oasis, led by Liam and Noel Gallagher, were the biggest mainstream international hit in America in 1996 since the British Invasion of the 60s. Critics were first to point out their striking resemblance to the Beatles-- both had close-cropped haircuts and a catchy musical style. Despite constant comparisons to the Beatles, Oasis was extremely successful. British publications constantly mention their first two albums, "Definitely Maybe" and "(What's The Story) Morning Glory," as two of the best ever made since the 60s. "(What's The Story) Morning Glory" is most widely known in America, courtesy of the two smash singles "Wonderwall" and "Champagne Supernova", but "Definitely Maybe" best portrays the sound of Oasis. Things were running smoothly at the time of the recording. The songs were catchy. The musicianship was solid. Noel and Liam got along like most brothers should. Most importantly, it sounded like nothing else that had preceded it for a decade in Britpop. During the 80s, popular music in Britain tended to stray toward electronic beats and corny lyrics. While there were some incredibly great and influential bands from the 80s, such as The Cure, The Smiths, and Jesus and the Mary Chain, those bands lacked a punch to return to the basics of rock and roll. They tended to write and sing more edgy, intellectual pop songs. Oasis was so well-received because they returned to the catchy rock/pop song, even if the Beatles had perfected it thirty years prior. Unfortunately in music, most good things eventually come to an end. It was thought that Noel and Liam's bitter hatred for one another would mean the demise of the band. After the first two albums, the quality of their work decreased as their rivalry became public. Most people in America do not remember their work after "(What's The Story) Morning Glory," so they were categorized as a one (or two)-hit wonder. After three years of silence, most assumed Oasis was dead. That is, until a few weeks ago. The band recently announced they were in the studio working on a new album, and their upcoming shows are a result of the new work. Liam and Noel are apparently putting their past aside to keep the band together. The limited major-city summer tour hits Madison Square Garden on June 22. Tickets are limited but still available. The combination of the pure energy of Jet ("Are You Gonna Be My Girl") and the chance to see Oasis-- a very special band that ruled the 1990s-- easily makes it one of the most anticipated tours coming to town this summer. www.mcquadrangle.org/news/2005/03/02/ArtsEntertainment/Oasis.Returns.With.A.New.Album.And.Concerts.In.Nyc-883027.shtml
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Post by lionsden® on Mar 2, 2005 20:15:18 GMT -5
Sweet
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Post by Gifford on Mar 2, 2005 20:16:52 GMT -5
lol it sounds like oasis are getting back together after a breakup. why does everyone think they havent done anything since 2000?
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Post by lionsden® on Mar 2, 2005 20:21:08 GMT -5
At least he didn't call them the3 Wonderwall hitmakers ;D
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Post by britishlove on Mar 2, 2005 21:04:13 GMT -5
lol it sounds like oasis are getting back together after a breakup. why does everyone think they havent done anything since 2000? cos the world is stupid. some people don't even know the existed before and after morning glory...
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Post by belgallagher on Mar 2, 2005 21:12:42 GMT -5
i still really don't understant why people say that the quality decreased after (what's the story?) morning glory, be here now is simply fantastic!! i really love this cd. i know standing on the shoulders of giants and heathen chemistry are not even close, so you may say they have three amazing cds, why do they say two? how cant they admit that be here now is simply class aswell, yes, maybe not as great as dm or mg, but its still excellent!! just a thought...
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Post by britishlove on Mar 2, 2005 21:34:57 GMT -5
i still really don't understant why people say that the quality decreased after (what's the story?) morning glory, be here now is simply fantastic!! i really love this cd. i know standing on the shoulders of giants and heathen chemistry are not even close, so you may say they have three amazing cds, why do they say two? how cant they admit that be here now is simply class aswell, yes, maybe not as great as dm or mg, but its still excellent!! just a thought... i think that heathen chem is top as well...I'm sure this next album will be as well. I suppose they are all personal opinions though...
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Post by StepOut on Mar 2, 2005 23:23:00 GMT -5
great article ;D
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Post by RnRstar on Mar 3, 2005 3:45:18 GMT -5
let's all wait another 2-3 months to see what happens... I know I wont be expecting another DM but I'm hoping it'll come close and if it IS another DM... then ... hell I won't even know what to say
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Post by caro on Mar 3, 2005 5:00:57 GMT -5
liam and noel don't hate each other!!
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Post by globe on Mar 3, 2005 5:12:33 GMT -5
let's all wait another 2-3 months to see what happens... I know I wont be expecting another DM but I'm hoping it'll come close and if it IS another DM... then ... hell I won't even know what to say They will never record another Def Maybe. End of story.
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Post by lambyUK on Mar 3, 2005 6:51:13 GMT -5
I have to say articles like that INFURIATE me!
I mean jesus...yes Heathen Chemsitry and Standing on the shoulder of giants are not as a good as the first three, but they are still good albums in their own right. Ive never known a band to get as much criticism for not releasing an album that isnt as good as their first couple. I mean U2 dont get that criticism. I think their later albums are good...but doesnt beat their early stuff. So why dont they get slated?? its because they play "the game".
Oasis' popularity never went down in the US due to album quality, its was because they refused to play the game. Its as simple as that.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 3, 2005 7:30:57 GMT -5
its a good article 4 the band,,,but a few observations ...firstly the limited seats available at msg are behind the stage and obstructed view seats that were not available when the concerts were announced so its a sellout. secondly, in my opinion anyway the reason the college article says there work fell off after the first 2 is because thats wat the mainstream media here in the usa wrote in reviewing subsequent lps if you right something enough people will believe it,granted the lpd were not on par with the first 2 (though i still think bhn is ) but they all had some quality tunes that bands today who release lps and are well received by the critics would kill to have in there catalouge. OASIS were without question ostricised from american markets because of the way they acted toward the media and cancelled gigs so just like they built them up they couldnt wait to tear them down for not kissin ass(ie mtv radio djs)...but with all that said the fact that a college paper paper is saying how big they were and are excited about them comin can only be great news ! even if its no DM or GLORY maybe they will be forgiven now for there past and looked upon as a band that were great had some problems but percerveered and the reviews for this lp will be less bias ....WHEW theres my rant time for a stella ..fell off the wagon
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Post by lambyUK on Mar 3, 2005 9:41:43 GMT -5
I think in general the article is good for the band, and hopefully those people in the US who have misconceived ideas of the band can put those behind them and listen to the music instead of the media.
But i still stand by the fact many statements in that article piss me off. Oasis seem to be the only band that the media and critics demand perfection from...musically that is. If the last 2/3 werent made by Oasis I guarantee that which ever band did would have been hailed as geniuses.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 3, 2005 9:49:24 GMT -5
musically that is. If the last 2/3 werent made by Oasis I guarantee that which ever band did would have been hailed as geniuses. ive been saying that for years....if any of these so called big bands coldplay,ferdinand,ect ect came out with a lp after 2 mega lps and it contained stand by me,dykwim,dong go away...ect ect plus all the tunes that rock on HC AND GIANTS they would be loved by the critics but OASIS for better or worse are held to a different set of rules
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Post by belgallagher on Mar 3, 2005 14:25:46 GMT -5
I have to say articles like that INFURIATE me! I mean jesus...yes Heathen Chemsitry and Standing on the shoulder of giants are not as a good as the first three, but they are still good albums in their own right. Ive never known a band to get as much criticism for not releasing an album that isnt as good as their first couple. I mean U2 dont get that criticism. I think their later albums are good...but doesnt beat their early stuff. So why dont they get slated?? its because they play "the game". Oasis' popularity never went down in the US due to album quality, its was because they refused to play the game. Its as simple as that. exactly, well said
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Post by nyr401994 on Mar 3, 2005 15:04:37 GMT -5
A college mags view : After a five year absence of touring in America, Oasis recently decided to plan a tour this upcoming summer with very special guests, Australian rockers Jet. 5 YEAR ABSENCE???
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Post by Poshbird05 on Mar 3, 2005 16:06:37 GMT -5
I would like to Formally apologize for all the jack asses that live here in the states. Some dill holes here just simply don't like "MUSIC".
Sorry Mates
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Post by Shakermaker on Mar 5, 2005 15:06:22 GMT -5
I think the anwer of the question "why are DM and Morning Glory so big, and the others just not for a lot of people", can't be told in short story. But i somehow think i know some reasons.
1. Oasis is NOT hot anymore, so a group of people who are just dickheads, and buy an Oasis album cos of the hype it was in the mid-90s are simply not there anymore. Yer not cool anymore when you listen to Oasis, lookin'at the way young people think nowadays. The think U2 is hardrock, and believe Justin Timberlake is God. They don't understand Rock n Roll anymore.
2. DM and Morning Glory were released in an time area the UK was in at that moment, it was cool to be British, non-americanish, just typically british ... So cups of tea, red dubble bus, The Beatles, and drugs (to give it all a cool turn). Oasis represented that "cool brittania" feelin'. After some years, this area ended up in some fokin' shit. Like the death of Princess Diana, and the upcomin' "new britpopstars" Robbie Williams and the Spice Girls. Oasis was never that "british" anymore since 1995/1996 , where they ?
3. DM was pure rock n roll and very refreshing, and MG was very melodious and very "beatles" in a way. BHN wasn't very refreshing, and Oasis waited to long with bringin'out SOTSOG to correct that.
4. DM and MG had some classics on it. After these 2 albums, i 'aven't heard a real classic Oasis song that was very refreshing and different from the others. So Oasis became boring to a group of people (those "pop/hype" dickheads). This group is shamefully ... a bigger group then those people who know what MUSIC is ...
Hopefully someday people will learn good music ...
for me ..... OASIS FOREVER !
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Post by Deleted on Mar 5, 2005 15:50:24 GMT -5
I think the anwer of the question "why are DM and Morning Glory so big, and the others just not for a lot of people", can't be told in short story. But i somehow think i know some reasons. 1. Oasis is NOT hot anymore, so a group of people who are just dickheads, and buy an Oasis album cos of the hype it was in the mid-90s are simply not there anymore. Yer not cool anymore when you listen to Oasis, lookin'at the way young people think nowadays. The think U2 is hardrock, and believe Justin Timberlake is God. They don't understand Rock n Roll anymore. 2. DM and Morning Glory were released in an time area the UK was in at that moment, it was cool to be British, non-americanish, just typically british ... So cups of tea, red dubble bus, The Beatles, and drugs (to give it all a cool turn). Oasis represented that "cool brittania" feelin'. After some years, this area ended up in some fokin' shit. Like the death of Princess Diana, and the upcomin' "new britpopstars" Robbie Williams and the Spice Girls. Oasis was never that "british" anymore since 1995/1996 , where they ? 3. DM was pure rock n roll and very refreshing, and MG was very melodious and very "beatles" in a way. BHN wasn't very refreshing, and Oasis waited to long with bringin'out SOTSOG to correct that. 4. DM and MG had some classics on it. After these 2 albums, i 'aven't heard a real classic Oasis song that was very refreshing and different from the others. So Oasis became boring to a group of people (those "pop/hype" dickheads). This group is shamefully ... a bigger group then those people who know what MUSIC is ... Hopefully someday people will learn good music ... for me ..... OASIS FOREVER ! NUFF SAID RIGHT THERE ...WELL PUT MAN
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Post by lionsden® on Mar 5, 2005 16:58:36 GMT -5
They will never record another Def Maybe. End of story. Yeah - Its gonna be better
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Post by USOasis86 on Mar 6, 2005 14:38:19 GMT -5
Ok this may sound wierd but i get this feel like this is the year like i feel something huge is going to come out of them and lately it seems like its like the quiet before the storm and its weird i really think things are going to look there way But thats just me
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Post by Poshbird05 on Mar 6, 2005 15:58:21 GMT -5
It's not just you mate I get it too. I just think with all the covering up that Noel is doing this one's gonna be good. And don't get me wrong Noel has always been a cockey guy when it comes to the band and his song writing, remember "The bands good because I'm a fuckn' genius", but he seems to be really for this album
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Post by USOasis86 on Mar 6, 2005 17:11:08 GMT -5
True very true
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Post by bedwetter_v2 on Mar 7, 2005 18:25:14 GMT -5
man, Noel's not cocky... he's the Chief, he says what is right, and every time he says this and that is freaking great... he backs it up!
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