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Post by Christopher on Aug 10, 2004 3:53:24 GMT -5
Zak's drumming just doesn't fit the band.
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Post by holdonecho on Aug 10, 2004 3:59:30 GMT -5
I can see your point but RingoJr sounds awesome on My Generation and if that is a taste of what is too come I say keep him.
Remember he's only played at two gigs
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Post by Christopher on Aug 10, 2004 4:19:11 GMT -5
My Generation is the track he's played for million times. Still his drumming which is way too slow and ignoring Alan's parts just isn't that good. Two gigs for a professional means everything. He had rehearsals with the band, right?
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Post by peregrin on Aug 10, 2004 5:27:46 GMT -5
How many gigs did Steve White play with oasis? He was much better than Zak and Alan, he's a professional drummer, Paul Weller knows it  |
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Post by novascotialad on Aug 10, 2004 7:39:09 GMT -5
a bit off topic but, i was lucky enough to see oasis when steve white was with them, absolutely awesome, he's loud very loud, demands attention
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Post by Christopher on Aug 10, 2004 9:50:50 GMT -5
How many gigs did Steve White play with oasis? He was much better than Zak and Alan, he's a professional drummer, Paul Weller knows it Agreed, he's great. Much better than Alan and Zak. |
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Post by Christopher on Aug 10, 2004 9:52:55 GMT -5
a bit off topic but, i was lucky enough to see oasis when steve white was with them, absolutely awesome, he's loud very loud, demands attention Loud in a proper way! Zak just hits crash cymbal all the time and thinks it's that great. |
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Post by Indo ShakermakeR on Aug 10, 2004 10:07:24 GMT -5
Well, like it or not Steve nor Alan will never gonna b the drummer for oasis (again -alan).
Steve said in his website or somethin like that, that the reason that his brother left the band was not because of problems with his wrists but there was problems with noel n liam (they wanted to have the full rights of all the songs that they wrote -noel n liam)... problem was... on most or some songs alan was the one who actually created the composed/modified the drums parts... so u figure it out...
Steve also said that after wat happened to his brother, there is no way that his going to drum for oasis ever again, (whether as a part time drummer or a full time)
i cud give u his direct words... but i forgot wer i saved the web page....
anyway, i don like Zak's drumming... TOO FUCKIN SLOW... Don't look back in anger sounds crap with him on the drums.... I like d trills dat alan used to do
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Post by Christopher on Aug 10, 2004 12:49:46 GMT -5
anyway, i don like Zak's drumming... TOO FUCKIN SLOW... Don't look back in anger sounds crap with him on the drums.... I like d trills dat alan used to do Damn yes! Zak makes my ears hurt, being a drummer myself. |
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Post by Elan Morin Tedronai on Aug 10, 2004 13:08:52 GMT -5
I also think that if this is true Indo ShakermakeR, nor Alan, nor Steve will EVER drum for Oasis.
I still hope that Zak will contribute as well as possible in the band. I don't defy him as a drummer. Let's hope next albums will be as great as all albums.
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Post by holdonecho on Aug 10, 2004 16:10:38 GMT -5
i'll be honest, as a guitarist, i don't listen to the drums that often. Too me they are there to keep time and make things loud. And please don't take that personally drummer people. In many ways i envy you. Because you have found space to set up your drums. You have taken on the responsability of some thing far greater then that which can be kept in a case. And you boast Phil Collins as one of yours Anyway my 2 questions to you drummer guys is this: 1 Would Ringo (in his revolver-abbey road era) fit in with the current oasis? 2 If you could bring any drummer, in his prime, from any british group from the golden era of brit rock (1963, when beatles first blew up to 1980 with the death of Bonham, Lennon and Punk), who would you choose. waiting on suspended chord, dreaming of the perfect drumroll, for your reply. |
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Post by LIVERPUDLIAN on Aug 10, 2004 17:03:29 GMT -5
I think Zak's alrite, he's awesome in The Who but perhaps doesn't fit the Oasis sound.
Terry Kirkbride of Proud Mary is a damn good drummer and would fit in the Oasis line up IMO, unfortunately I very much doubt he'll join the band.
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Post by Christopher on Aug 11, 2004 0:54:36 GMT -5
1 Would Ringo (in his revolver-abbey road era) fit in with the current oasis? 2 If you could bring any drummer, in his prime, from any british group from the golden era of brit rock (1963, when beatles first blew up to 1980 with the death of Bonham, Lennon and Punk), who would you choose. Ringo was a crap drummer, no wonder Paul substituted him once in a while. He was alright for early Beatles' era but couldn't improve himself when their music became more sophisticated. I would chose that guy from The Police (yes, that band with Sting on bass). |
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Post by Eggy on Aug 11, 2004 3:45:43 GMT -5
Jesus guys, do you realy all think that its Zakk's fault that hes drumming too slow? Hes rehearsed with the band and believe you me, when Liam or Noel thinks hes playing too slow, theyll tell him that right away! I think its a BANDS DECISION that the drummings slowed down.
I do agree about the fact that steve white is better than alan or zakk
cheers...
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Post by peregrin on Aug 11, 2004 4:23:08 GMT -5
the problem is that alan didn't teach the songs to zak and no one couldn't so he did what he could. Oasis drumming will never sounds as yesterday. The best drummer for oasis would be the deff leppard drummer...hahaha  |
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Post by themanwithnoname on Aug 11, 2004 4:53:18 GMT -5
How about Tony McCarroll? (just kidding)
I too thought the band sounded their best on that US tour with Steve White on drums - judging by the bootlegs anyway. He also seemed to be really into it, really energetic, as opposed to his brother who towards the end seemed to be going through the motions a little.
I'm no drummer but I didn't think Zak Starkey got close to Steve White at Glasto (although it wasn't the best performance all round to be honest, particularly from Liam).
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Post by Eggy on Aug 11, 2004 5:55:44 GMT -5
I realy think there isnt much difference in quality between zak and alan. I think its just a new direction of the band.
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Post by Elan Morin Tedronai on Aug 11, 2004 6:39:10 GMT -5
I think that Alan White was a good drummer. I haven't listen to his brother, but I think that Alan was fit for the drumplace and he did his best while he was in Oasis, although his drumming in last 2 albums wasn't so energetic as it was in Morning Glory and Be Here Now. So I really think that it was a new direction of the band.
Throwing Alan was mistake, because for me Alan was as original member of the band as Noel and Liam were. So I was greatly disappointed of this departure of one of the most nice and pleasent-looking members of the band.
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