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Post by nowhereman082 on Aug 24, 2004 14:11:31 GMT -5
does anyone here believe that kurt cobain was murdered. i think so and if you go to the website that's on my signature you'll believe it too.
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Post by LDD- Angelic Child on Aug 24, 2004 14:42:47 GMT -5
I (as a Nirvana fan) believe that it was suicide (however this OR ANY VERDICT has not been proved 100%- this is just my opinion) Kurt Cobain had anorexia and bulimia as well has being wasted on all kinds of drugs & alcohol regularly, Kurt Cobain's stomach was getting in a worse and worse state. Kurt Cobain had a very unique voice because his voice wasn't trained. To get that heavy growl in some songs it took a lot of effort. With Kurt's stomach and throat deteriorating this was getting harder, Kurt Cobain did not want to see himself or Nirvana just turning to nothing because he was unable to perform. As it quotes from his suicide note (if it was him) "It's better to burn out than to fade away" He felt that it was better that he stopped his career rather than anybody else doing it. Kurt Cobain was hardly an ordinary person at this point so he was also under a lot of pressure and had already suffered depression (as well as the drugs and alcohol's depressing effects) There are also rumors that Courtney Love did it... i doubt it seeing as she was in another part of the country at the time. Anyway, that's just my opinion- I still think Nirvana rule
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Post by maketradefair on Aug 24, 2004 15:14:17 GMT -5
does anyone here believe that kurt cobain was murdered. i think so and if you go to the website that's on my signature you'll believe it too. no one will ever know....
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Post by Bonebrain on Aug 25, 2004 0:44:51 GMT -5
He killed himself.
Although it is impossible to be 100% certain, unless you were there when he did it, the people who think he was murdered are the same as people who think Elvis is still alive.
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Post by Eggy on Aug 25, 2004 2:45:19 GMT -5
its just suicide. The murder-story is the same bullshit rumour as that macca shouldve been dead...
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Post by Tomo on Aug 25, 2004 9:42:35 GMT -5
I heard from a police report or something that there weren't any finger prints on the shotgun??
How do you explain that?
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Post by Eggy on Aug 25, 2004 9:52:47 GMT -5
thats all part of the rumour too
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Post by Chris Gallagher on Aug 25, 2004 10:26:50 GMT -5
Thats because he used his toes to pull the trigger ;D ;D
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Post by Columbia on Aug 25, 2004 15:49:43 GMT -5
Thats because he used his toes to pull the trigger ;D ;D ;D when you hear about the incident it does sound like it could have been murder. There were no finger prints on the gun, he'd taken so much heroin he would have found it completely impossible to hold the gun, the last part of his "suicide note" which refers to suicide is in a different style of handwriting to the top part and its believed the note was actually explaining to the fans that nirvana were going to split. its fishy.
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Post by nyr401994 on Aug 26, 2004 22:25:17 GMT -5
it was suicide. he listened to nevermind and then shot himself with a shotgun
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Post by Eggy on Aug 27, 2004 3:43:40 GMT -5
maybe hes still alive.
in some range in the forest in alaska, living with elvis, john lennon, 2pac and james dean..
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Post by jayg on Aug 27, 2004 6:44:22 GMT -5
;D when you hear about the incident it does sound like it could have been murder. There were no finger prints on the gun, he'd taken so much heroin he would have found it completely impossible to hold the gun, the last part of his "suicide note" which refers to suicide is in a different style of handwriting to the top part and its believed the note was actually explaining to the fans that nirvana were going to split. its fishy. Yeah but how do we really know that there were no fingerprints on the gun and he had taken so much heroin that he couldnt pull the finger!! Its just stuff people have heard and its all speculation!! Of course it was suicide, plain and simple suicide!! If someone was going to murder someone as famous as kurt cobain and make it look like suicide then they are not going to over look evidence of fingerprints on the gun and the fact that he was incapable of moving. All of these murder conspirisies are just fantisies that add more glamour to the life and death of kurt cobain, almost making out that he was a tortued soul who wasnt ready to give it in but had his life taken away from him!!! BOLLOCKS!!
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Post by Eggy on Aug 27, 2004 7:25:28 GMT -5
Yeah but how do we really know that there were no fingerprints on the gun and he had taken so much heroin that he couldnt pull the finger!! Its just stuff people have heard and its all speculation!! Of course it was suicide, plain and simple suicide!! If someone was going to murder someone as famous as kurt cobain and make it look like suicide then they are not going to over look evidence of fingerprints on the gun and the fact that he was incapable of moving. All of these murder conspirisies are just fantisies that add more glamour to the life and death of kurt cobain, almost making out that he was a tortued soul who wasnt ready to give it in but had his life taken away from him!!! BOLLOCKS!! APPLAUSSE!!!!!
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Post by thebeerbaron1 on Aug 27, 2004 16:36:41 GMT -5
for at least a year before he died he had made no secret that he wanted to kill himself.
i hate myself and i want to die! was'nt that the song on the bevis and butthead album?
when the first report that a body had been found ah his house i just said "you silly vagina"
i loved that band and i was on a high after the un-plugged session because it showed what greatness was to come.
then the silly vagina wasted himself.
sure, elvis is still alive and living in an apartment with sid vicious and the fonz.
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Post by Toast960 on Aug 28, 2004 20:33:11 GMT -5
Well I tend to believe it was a suicide as a result of a severe depression and his stomach ailment which had been causing him great pains. Apparently what had happened days earlier (and this is just what I've read and heard many a time) was that Kurt went to Italy where Courtney was to try and work things out with her for the sake of their daughter. He goes into the hotel room the two are supposed to be staying at and catches her fucking Billy Corgan. That set him off in a failed attempt to kill himself.
Then days later he killed himself.
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Post by Evans on Aug 29, 2004 8:56:46 GMT -5
Kurt Cobain was murderd!! Im a huge Nirvana fan! I dont believe that he killed himself! Yes he was suisidal, but it was a cry for attention! He never intended to end his life! His nutter of a wife Courtey has been involved with his murder, i recon she got someone to kill him! She was jelious of him and his success, she also wanted his money! Which she has now, BITCH! If Courtney truely loved Kurt then why did she have an affair? Kurt was too hight on herion to even pick up the gun! So how could he shoot himself???
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Post by Eggy on Aug 30, 2004 7:09:33 GMT -5
Kurt was too hight on herion to even pick up the gun! So how could he shoot himself??? yeah, and keith richards should be dead by now of drugs. and is he dead? no. doctors say everything about drugs. only half of it is true. they also say its deadly dangerous do drink alcohol and use xtc or ghb together. and look at me, im still alive. so are millions others. dont believe everything thats said my friend
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Post by Evans on Aug 30, 2004 11:01:36 GMT -5
HHHM! I still recon it was murder though
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Post by nyr401994 on Aug 30, 2004 14:36:46 GMT -5
Kurt Cobain was murderd!! Im a huge Nirvana fan! I dont believe that he killed himself! Yes he was suisidal, but it was a cry for attention! He never intended to end his life! His nutter of a wife Courtey has been involved with his murder, i recon she got someone to kill him! She was jelious of him and his success, she also wanted his money! Which she has now, BITCH! Kurt was too hight on herion to even pick up the gun! So how could he shoot himself??? are you reading what you just wrote? ok, first of all, if somebody's suicidal and write about wanting to kill themselves, chances are, they were the ones responsible for shooting themselves. but that's just me. and also, stop giving courtney shit. people still give yoko shit for something she never did (breaking up the beatles), while the one responsible for it had the biggest tour of the year in 2002. history does repeat itself. and just because someone is on heroin doesn't mean that they don't know how to shoot themselves. i'm sorry one of your favorite musicians died ten years ago, and you want someone to blame. but just because he was in nirvana doesn't mean he was murdered. sean lennon thinks his father's murder was a u.s. government hired hit because they couldn't get him out of the country in the early 70s. doesn't mean it is true. sorry to get on your case evans, but what you said was bollox. the only fact in your post was that courtney love was his wife.
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Post by Evans on Aug 30, 2004 16:49:40 GMT -5
Well i still believe Kurt was murdered! Thats just my view!
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Post by Eggy on Aug 31, 2004 4:27:35 GMT -5
and also, stop giving courtney shit. people still give yoko shit for something she never did (breaking up the beatles), while the one responsible for it had the biggest tour of the year in 2002. history does repeat itself. Your points are good, but i disagree about the yoko thing. Ok, she is by far not ALONE responsible for breaking up the beatles. Anyway, its a fact that john went to some major changes after being with her. And people who change are hard to stay with. So john changes could maybe be a reason for the break-up. Im not saying it is true, but you simply cant exclude this option imo.
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Post by Evans on Aug 31, 2004 6:22:16 GMT -5
Your points are good, but i disagree about the yoko thing. Ok, she is by far not ALONE responsible for breaking up the beatles. Anyway, its a fact that john went to some major changes after being with her. And people who change are hard to stay with. So john changes could maybe be a reason for the break-up. Im not saying it is true, but you simply cant exclude this option imo. Yea exactly what im thinkin, but i thought i would get ripped to bits if i posted it!
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Post by Eggy on Aug 31, 2004 7:07:50 GMT -5
Yea exactly what im thinkin, but i thought i would get ripped to bits if i posted it! Why would you? anybody in here is alowed to give his opinion. Thats what a forum is for. What i do think is that you shouldnt be so convinced about the kurt is murdered-thing. There is absolutely NO evidence of him being killed. I understand you have this felling that he is killed. Well, fair enough, but you gotta stand open for other opinions which can maybe change your opinion. cheers
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Post by thebeerbaron1 on Sept 1, 2004 16:02:03 GMT -5
courtney is one of those soul sucking suckubus thingys that you only ever see in buffy.
but as much as i loathe the foul creature, i believe that the sad fucker had a deathwish and found romance in the hendrix/morrison/etc....yawn....scene.
his mum told him not to buy in to the dead rock star shit shortly before he blew his brains out leaving his kid without a dad! selfish little man.
where yoko is concerned with the beatles...well, she was the sparkplug, but i blame mc'cartney for the breakup.
the man is a sir wanker and has been for decades.
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Post by thebeerbaron1 on Sept 1, 2004 16:03:18 GMT -5
eggy!
you go girl.(thumbs up icon)
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