"Life is like a box of chocolates. You never know what you're gonna get"

i completely respect your perspective... but I wish you all the luck in the world then..if it is a roll of the dice...

i never understood that?

you get a leaflet inside telling you what flavour/filling the chocolates are, so its not random at all.

i cant tell if you bein sarcastic or serious

edit: thats definitely sarcastic! STFU tam!!!!

i can tell which ones are the good ones to pick up

serioulsy i think that you see what you want to see in what happens

"signs": you see them cos you want to and already have decided to go in such a way
we talk about destiny or a "path for us" to disengage our responsibility in events IMO

agree 100%

i spoke of destiny.... a path.. but I also said FREE WILL played huge a part... `



there are many things in our lives that are "meant to be". I believe we are all born with souls that are different... different levels of consciousness.

ex. Noel gallagher heard sally cinnamon and at that moment he "KNEW" what he wanted to do. I am not talking about God turning an on/off button upstairs. No. This all started with a THOUGHT he had. a seed was planted. he also had musical abilities planted in him, genetics and environment played a part. his SEED. but he honestly had a path, and then had the free will to make it happen. there were also other "players"/factors involved that were not random in my opinion. to make it all happen. we are all inter-connected... or shld be...


wow, i wish you guys all the luck if you feel it is random.. I sincerely mean that. as your life unfolds later perhaps you may not only come to BELIEVE this, but rather KNOW it. not much in my life has been a coincidence,, down to who my family is and friends are... soulmates find each other and we seek things inside each other that we need or want..we help each other hopefully. some for only a season, some for a lifetime..

darkness and light also exist and is around us constantly... we can chose to be drawn to dark things i..e ppl truly negative for us. or gravitate towards those that help us, and we help them. often we are not aware who/what is really hurting us. or we chose to be stuck with negative thoughts and things because we dont have enuff self-love or inner strength to make changes...or we flat out dont know HOW to do it. or no one is guiding us. lots of factors here... enuff said.

yes tez. we all make bad decisions .. and we hopefully learn from them. some of my mistakes tho have been sources of great growth and strength. often we do not get a clear picture on what is best for us at the time.. and later hopefully we dont shoot the messenger... life is full of challenges to take us to the next level as a person. the game of life is ON from the moment we wake. at any point in time in your life tho good things can come out of bad decisions or seemingly "bad random events"... it is merely perspective.. ex. i layed on bed with dying relative and my daughter a yr ago.. it was an incredible experience.. it changes my life and i learned much from it. my daughter saw the cycle of life and will be better equipped to deal with more ppl leaving us in the future..

do some things randomly happen ? i.e.man not paying attn on road and hits cat . yes. of course...

You hippy Tam!

Tam, with all due respect...

how the fuck can there be a plan AND free will.

If im free to think and do something, then that makes my thoughts special and lacking a plan

If there is a plan to life, then you're programed and thus have NO free will

you cant have both.

Im not religious, dont believe in God (personally i think its stupid to believe in something you have NO proof of, just to explain certain mysteries....its not my thing...)

thus random it is

I always have a hard time with this kind of subjects...it's too hard for me to decide in what to believe. At the end I think is a mix of everything I guess....there must be luck involved...I mean, it's not the same if you're born in Switzerland than if you're born in Zimbabwe is it?

There might be a plan and destiny might play a role, but I think most of life is based on free will, but then again it really isn't the same for all the people.

I know what you mean, it does seem like a lottery if you are born into a rich or poor country.